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12/08/08, 5:38 AM
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#51
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King Hippo
Tauren Shaman
Al'Akir (EU)
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I use the G Keys generally as my hotkeys, and my mouse to move around, LCD is generally for ventrilo if that is active or just on the clock.
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12/12/08, 5:38 AM
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#52
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Druid
Frostwolf
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For those interested in this stuff but unable to get a G15 r1, they've announced/released the G18 which has 12 G-Keys, a full color LCD and orange backlight.
Not sure if it's available for sale yet, or when it will be if it isn't but it is definitely something to keep an eye out for, picture here on engadget along with G13 too, Logitech G18 gaming keyboard shows its not-so-ugly face - Engadget
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01/03/09, 7:53 PM
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#53
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
The Venture Co (EU)
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I had a G15v1 about a year ago (still collecting dust somewhere), it had its perks, but in the end the few functions that I used didn't warrant the size it used on my relatively small desk.
It was great for arenas when I was playing my priest, made a macro that buffed everyone in my group with single-target buffs at the arena preparation with one keystroke (one macro for 2v2, one for 3v3 etc naturally), I also placed some situational stuff on the G keys, such as the tear on Archimonde, the ghost's abilities on Teron and similar. The display was nice, but I never really got any proper use of it, my biggest peeve was that it seemed to be unable to change stuff on it's own. Like when I was tabbed out I had to run the WoW mods to be able to see that I got a whisper, and I usually ran my foobar mod to control my media player on the screen. The BG module was nice, but I never got any use out of seeing my own stats really.
This was when the keyboard was fairly new of course, have the things I mentioned been improved or changed since? It might warrant a retry of it.
Using a Fractal Design keyboard now, love it.
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01/12/09, 4:16 AM
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#54
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Glass Joe
Troll Death Knight
Chamber of Aspects (EU)
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Not using mine.
Unluckily I'm running a Linux system and I haven't got that screen to work at all. Haven't even tried during the last half a year. Also not using the G keys.
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01/15/09, 6:33 AM
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#55
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Glass Joe
Tauren Shaman
Al'Akir (EU)
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@Indico
If you use g15daemon for linux, usually found at the repositories of your distribution and at SourceForge.net: G15Daemon you can get it to work for general usage such as displaying the clock and date or what track amarok is playing etc.
I don't think it's possible to get the info from WoW displayed if they don't release a linux client since Wine is unaware of the G15's LCD screen.
Last edited by Naimah : 01/30/09 at 12:47 PM.
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01/15/09, 6:54 AM
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#56
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Von Kaiser
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Heh, I had to load up wow just to remember what all my buttons are used for. I hit them pretty reflexively. This is my enhance setup, all I do for resto is simply have a G macro that has Shift Down, and that's it. Then I just left/right click on grid
G1(cast WF+FT) G2() G3(drink)
G4(cancel wep buffs) G5() G6(pvp trinket)
G7 (res) G8() G9(warstomp)
G10(dogs+taunt)G11(dogs+sprint)G12(just dogs) dogs are feral spirits, and I macro f8 (my hotkey for them) and f2, or f3 (taunt and sprint respectively)
G13() G14(enter /tar ctrl+v enter) G15(spam 1) for g14 I made a macro that will let me copy someone's name, and spam /tar pretty much. I recently did the occulus achievements which require you do nothing other than spam 1 (emerald dot) and strafe, it's also useful on malygos I guess
G16() G17() G18(spam r-click) for opening those damned chests! (it's amazing)
Gx() means unassigned
I'm curious as to whether anyone's used the scripting interface for the G15 in WoW yet, to create some custom macros.
I also play with my toes, well, a toe. I have my dps rotation macro'd into my Belkin Nostromo that sits on the floor. Go ahead, laugh. My guildies do. I take it in pride now though, I just remind them they're getting out dps'd by a single digit.
I use a tray, so I never actually use the LCD display, I'd die without the media buttons though. I can't raid without my Nightwish/Blind Guardian running in the background 
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01/15/09, 12:41 PM
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#57
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Glass Joe
Tauren Shaman
Blackwater Raiders
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Setting Up Multiple WoW Profiles
I would like to set up multiple WoW profiles on my G11 keyboard so that I can accommodate custom layouts for multiple toons. I have tried and failed; I'm stuck on the single profile. Is it possible to have more than one WoW profile?
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01/28/09, 11:20 AM
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#58
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Glass Joe
Draenei Paladin
Bleeding Hollow
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The G15 is an incredible piece of equipment and if it were within my power, I would make it mandatory for raiders.
Yes, the ability to see who is talking in vent (or who is bombing the server or has an open mike) is huge.
The 18 extra binds from the classic version are VERY worthwhile. I as a protection paladin bind them as follows:
G1: Righteous Fury
G2: BoSa
G3: BoM
G4: (bound to whatever situational channel spam macro I am using at the time)
G5: BoW
G6: BoK (yes, I'm forced to take it)
G7: Salv
G8: BoP
G9: BoF
G10: Divine Plea
G11: (situational)
G12: Divine Protection (Shield Wall)
G13 through G18 are bound to macros to mark mobs with symbols, and place a message in raid chat indicating the symbol has been applied ("%t designated [Mark] by Aestu").
The extra binds' utility is obvious and extremely beneficial.
The keyboard itself is sturdy but the coloring of the keys wears off quickly under the pressure of extended use.
Finally, the greatest benefit conferred by the G15: To suppress the Windows key to avoid an untimely minimize.
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01/29/09, 11:21 AM
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Farstriders
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Thank you
Great information on the G15, thank you. I've had mine for over a year, but have only been playing WoW for 3 months, so I am stoked to find out how well it will work especially with the lcd and vent. Our guild's very capable 80 hunter told me about this site and I am laughing out loud, literally (at my desk at work - probably not smart) while learning invaluable information about spec'ing my hunter and pet to match my play style (which is pretty casual right now, I might have to use more than a few keys at some point - doh). When I grow up I wanna be one of those hunters that is actually an asset and doesn't get everyone kilt.
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01/29/09, 1:50 PM
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#60
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Glass Joe
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Pre-3.0 there was a really great mod, Its' G15 Binder, which could make the G* keys simulate real keys. No need for weird modifier/key combinations (technically, the add-on did that for you.) Because of this, you were free to use modifiers as normal on your G* keys, ie Alt+G1, Shift+G1, and Ctrl+G1 could each be bound separately, like normal keys. Unfortunately, due to undocumented changes in 3.0, Its' G15 Binder is broken. The author claims to be working on and update, but no luck as of yet.
The Its' G15 Binder add-on makes the G15 greatly more usable. You should all hope over to the link above, and leave an encouraging comment for the author so he'll work harder to update it. 
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01/29/09, 2:17 PM
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#61
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Glass Joe
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I assigned my macro to target all the Outland rares to one of my G15's G keys and it works just like expected.
However I was reading that the software that controls the G keys has the ability to repeat the commands. So in a sense I could press it once while flying around and it would continuously spam the macro for me, saving my finger the work. I cant seem to get it to work in game though. Is this a user error on my part or is this a security issue that Blizzard has blocked the use of the repeat option?
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01/30/09, 7:17 AM
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Glass Joe
Draenei Priest
Doomhammer (EU)
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Originally Posted by Shazra
I cant seem to get it to work in game though. Is this a user error on my part or is this a security issue that Blizzard has blocked the use of the repeat option?
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What I noticed is that if you start WoW.exe or the Launcher under Vista with administrator privileges the G15 macros would only work if you run the Logitech Keyboard Profiler as admin too. Maybe that's what you are experiencing? Otherwise I did not notice any problems with G15 macros in general or the "repeat while pressed" functionality while in game.
Last edited by Laren : 02/02/09 at 8:10 PM.
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01/30/09, 12:25 PM
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Warrior
Doomhammer
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Originally Posted by Shazra
I assigned my macro to target all the Outland rares to one of my G15's G keys and it works just like expected.
However I was reading that the software that controls the G keys has the ability to repeat the commands. So in a sense I could press it once while flying around and it would continuously spam the macro for me, saving my finger the work. I cant seem to get it to work in game though. Is this a user error on my part or is this a security issue that Blizzard has blocked the use of the repeat option?
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To have the repeat function you need to Anabel it as repeat when you make the g15 button macro. By default they are on press. When i get home in about 5 hrs i can post a detailed walkthrough of enabling repeat on your buttons
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02/02/09, 12:10 PM
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Glass Joe
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Thanks for the replies so far.
I didn't try the "repeat while pressed" option actually, instead I went for the "toggle repeat" since it seemed to suit what I wanted a lot better. Press it once to start the macro and it repeats until you press it again. The strange part is that I used the tool inside of the Macro Profiler to "test" the macro, and it seemed to work perfectly. Repeating as I wanted. However inside WoW it doesn't repeat. The macro still fires though and it targets as I wanted, just doesn't repeat inside WoW.
Here are the steps I used to create my macro + G key..
- Inside WoW I created my new targeting macro
- I placed the macro on one of my bars
- I then assigned a keybind to the macro (alt-k in this case)
- Inside the Macro Profiler I created a new macro and assigned the alt+k keystroke to it
- Assigned the "toggle repeat" option to it
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02/05/09, 1:01 PM
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#65
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Glass Joe
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Be careful with the repeating and rotation macros using these keyboards. I remember reading Belfair (sp?) saying that if it does anything that an in-game macro can't do, like pausing between abilities or certain multiple button presses it's considered automation. Not sure if it can be detected, but it's something to keep in mind. It would suck to get perma-banned for trying to save a few key presses. 
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02/05/09, 3:21 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Belliine
Be careful with the repeating and rotation macros using these keyboards. I remember reading Belfair (sp?) saying that if it does anything that an in-game macro can't do, like pausing between abilities or certain multiple button presses it's considered automation. Not sure if it can be detected, but it's something to keep in mind. It would suck to get perma-banned for trying to save a few key presses. 
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That's how multiboxers can get away doing what they do...right? 1 key does 1 action on 20 different computers? Macroing rotations is perfectly fine. They want you to not to be able to AFK and have the keyboard play for you. There have been people banned for using the g15, but they were using it in ways that allowed them to AFK and have it play for you. Like, tab, macro some serious of attacks, tab, macro, tab, macro. That's exactly what that hunter (last one I heard of getting banned via g15) was doing, and rightfully so.
Same reason people aren't getting banned for using Auto-It scripts and while playing. Sure, the software's capable, but it's what you're doing with it that makes you run the risk, not the using it, itself. I've been using my g15 for almost 2 years, for quite a while before that I was using my Nostromo n52 to do the same thing. I'm still going strong.
Also, if you care to look it up Logitech sues Blizzard for banning people using their keyboards for macros, something about blacklisting hardware is a direct assault on logitech. Short story shorter, Logitech won and unless you're botting via macros you're perfectly safe.
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02/06/09, 4:13 PM
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#67
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Shazra
Thanks for the replies so far.
I didn't try the "repeat while pressed" option actually, instead I went for the "toggle repeat" since it seemed to suit what I wanted a lot better. Press it once to start the macro and it repeats until you press it again. The strange part is that I used the tool inside of the Macro Profiler to "test" the macro, and it seemed to work perfectly. Repeating as I wanted. However inside WoW it doesn't repeat. The macro still fires though and it targets as I wanted, just doesn't repeat inside WoW.
Here are the steps I used to create my macro + G key..
- Inside WoW I created my new targeting macro
- I placed the macro on one of my bars
- I then assigned a keybind to the macro (alt-k in this case)
- Inside the Macro Profiler I created a new macro and assigned the alt+k keystroke to it
- Assigned the "toggle repeat" option to it
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I would guess that something internal to the realm server was taking offense to what you're doing. One of the ways (IIRC) they check for botting is watching for actions that would be "impossible" for a human to accomplish. Something like attempting to target a mob 1,000,000 times a second*. That's an exaggeration, but you get my point. You might want to put pauses in your macro and see if that still works, but then you're going to run aground on the automation clause since you can't do something like /wait or /pause in a normal in-game macro.
My advice would be to just bind the macro to a button and spam the button.
*Yes, I know you can essentially spam /target commands inside a macro, then spam that macro, but there is a certain amount of time it takes for your finger to mechanically hit that button.
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