Anyone know the details of the C'Thun hotfix? - Page 2

• Hamlet · 08/27/06, 1:19 PM

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

We had giant claws spawning in his stomach last night. What a great patch :)

We've had incidents in the past where someone gets bugged in the stomach and doesn't recieve a dot. While this is fun for a while, it also makes them a valid target for Giant Claws/Eyes.

• Hamlet · 08/27/06, 1:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ghostz

A notable change is that you no longer go out of combat between phase 1 and 2, meaning you can't drink or res. Everything else seemed to work the same way as before, can't comment on timers though since we don't use any.

Can we get comfirmation on this? It means people will actually have to care about their mana in P1, and also that we have to be harsher on retard net issues.

♦ Praetorian · 08/27/06, 1:21 PM

Yes, there is no OOC phase. The transform animation is clipped short, and C'Thun phase 2 just pops into place instead of the Eye as the Eye dies.

Rane · 08/27/06, 1:24 PM

We had a big Eye spawn inside the C'thun body :( Ranged had to take it down because all the melee got the knockback when they tried to move into range. That's about my only complaint now tho, the 13 sec no beaming thing is a blast and I hope they keep it in some form.

Jin · 08/27/06, 1:28 PM

You can drink, we had about 3seconds while we were out of combat.

Romp · 08/27/06, 9:05 PM

yea we got out of comba last night on 1 attempt for a second, you just need to make sure all the claws etc are down. You can't res though.

Kaubel · 08/27/06, 9:48 PM

Originally Posted by Jin

You can drink, we had about 3seconds while we were out of combat.

It won't happen all the time though. I had a different equipment set queued in itemrack and nothing got switched.

DeeNogger · 08/27/06, 9:51 PM

Originally Posted by Kaubel

Originally Posted by Jin

You can drink, we had about 3seconds while we were out of combat.

It won't happen all the time though. I had a different equipment set queued in itemrack and nothing got switched.

just out of curiosity, what were you switching and why?

Kaubel · 08/27/06, 9:57 PM

I wear a few +NR pieces during phase 1.

Mosh · 08/27/06, 11:01 PM

Killed this new version tonight. I don't know why exactly, but it seemed leaps and bounds easier than the 'old' one. The 15 seconds of free positioning more than makes up for not being able to rez the dark glare noobs outside of druid rezzes.

• Hamlet · 08/28/06, 1:24 AM

Originally Posted by Mosh

Killed this new version tonight. I don't know why exactly, but it seemed leaps and bounds easier than the 'old' one. The 15 seconds of free positioning more than makes up for not being able to rez the dark glare noobs outside of druid rezzes.

For a guild that had only killed him a few times, the rez change was a big deal. It effectively changes the win condition on phase 1, and we had to raise the bar on a phase where we'd been complacent for a while.

We got wiped by a Giant Eye inside C'Thun's body. How often does this seem to be happening to people?

By the way, anyone ever killed him between vuln's? Was fun.

Kytrarewn · 08/28/06, 1:34 AM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

Originally Posted by Mosh

Killed this new version tonight. I don't know why exactly, but it seemed leaps and bounds easier than the 'old' one. The 15 seconds of free positioning more than makes up for not being able to rez the dark glare noobs outside of druid rezzes.

For a guild that had only killed him a few times, the rez change was a big deal. It effectively changes the win condition on phase 1, and we had to raise the bar on a phase where we'd been complacent for a while.

We got wiped by a Giant Eye inside C'Thun's body. How often does this seem to be happening to people?

By the way, anyone ever killed him between vuln's? Was fun.

Heh... our rogues attacking for CP and warriors attacking for Rage managed to get him to something like 94% before the first vuln. Was amusing.

• Hamlet · 08/28/06, 1:42 AM

Originally Posted by Kytrarewn

Originally Posted by Arawethion

Originally Posted by Mosh

Killed this new version tonight. I don't know why exactly, but it seemed leaps and bounds easier than the 'old' one. The 15 seconds of free positioning more than makes up for not being able to rez the dark glare noobs outside of druid rezzes.

For a guild that had only killed him a few times, the rez change was a big deal. It effectively changes the win condition on phase 1, and we had to raise the bar on a phase where we'd been complacent for a while.

We got wiped by a Giant Eye inside C'Thun's body. How often does this seem to be happening to people?

By the way, anyone ever killed him between vuln's? Was fun.

Heh... our rogues attacking for CP and warriors attacking for Rage managed to get him to something like 94% before the first vuln. Was amusing.

Wow, 600% of his HP bar is a lot of damage in that much time. How long did you take to vuln?

We had him at 1% after two vulns, a few people took potshots at him. Some Priest Mind Blasted for 6 and he went down. I had considered ordering the raid to DPS him, but the numbers weren't right. He could have had as much as 199% HP (effectively), taking the duration of 4 vulns (3 mins) to bring down. Realistically longer, since the coordination would have been terrible. Since we can't survive that long ignoring tentacles, we were planning to just do it the normal way.

Teval · 08/28/06, 2:07 AM

Originally Posted by Praetorian

Yes, there is no OOC phase. The transform animation is clipped short, and C'Thun phase 2 just pops into place instead of the Eye as the Eye dies.

Is the "Eye of C'Thun dies." message in the combat log still there though?

arc · 08/28/06, 2:55 AM

We had two failed attempts and a kill tonight. ("What do you mean we actually have to pay attention and not die to stupid stuff in phase 1 again!?" And had a bunch of applicants with us.) All 3 pulls got us into phase 2, just with too many dead the first two tries -- made for some sloppy giant eye pickups.. Of probably 15-20 Giant Eye spawns throughout the course of those 3 runs, none were in the stomach.

Not that this is a high enough sample to be of any use. I'd imagine it's just a {number of people in the stomach} / {number of people in raid} chance to have a Giant Eye in the stomach.

To parrot what others are saying, on our first p1->p2 we had no visible out of combat period. A few people said they saw the -combat +combat from SCT really quickly, some others with SCT said they saw nothing. We were slow killing the p1 Claw Tentacles this time. Second and killing attempts we had about 3 seconds. Long enough to drink, switch gear, etc, not long enough to res.

Probably same as in 1.11: if you kill all the claw tentacles you get a quick break to drink and shift gear, if you leave claw tentacles up too long then you miss the window.

Afterthought: I hope they keep this pull method. It's so much nicer than even C'Thun 1.0. No need for a designated puller, or pull healers. No need to worry about giving anyone sufficient girth on the pull. Just run in fast and get to it. It's perfect.