Slightly wrong due to game mechanics.

Mageblood Potion procs Potion Mastery
Elixir of Major Mageblood procs off Elixir Mastery.

Go figure?

I'm up to 5000 combines now.

1-100: Flask of Arcane Fortification
100-4900: Flask of Relentless Assult


The worst part is elixir procs flasks, but potions doesn't, yet you have to get lucky and discover things in order to make them. I personally think all masteries should proc flasks. I've made this post on the Profession Forums. Please bump it so we can get the already horrible discovery system slightly fixed.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...75431268&sid=1

It's true that transmutes have a cooldown and that limis the supply, but supply is only one blade of the scissors that determines prices. My point about the value of mats vs. final products still stands. Many of us have already seen Might sell for equal or less than its constituent parts on the open market. That doesn't mean that none will get made, it just means that they will be made on-demand as potions and elixirs were and are, and you will have to sell your services like an enchanter thus further reducing profits by the value of your time.

It's also worth noting that on transmute mastery effectively increases the supply (technical economics definition) of transmuted goods, thus lowering their price. Similar to how I'll trade +dmg for crit if it balances out to an increase in average damage, I could sell Might for what looks like a losing price if the expected profit is still positive.

5 transmutes after getting mastery - no procs yet :(

Hey cladnin, have you gotten any extra flasks from Relentless Assault yet? I've made a good 15 at least so far and have yet to make an extra. Same with Fel Strength Elixir.

I have, Kody.

Potentially dumb question, but; is there an addon that tracks the number of combines you've done? This thread is full of people citing numbers in the thousands and i'd personally have a hard time manually keeping track at that point.

I believe Fel Strength Elixir is wrongly classed as a potion. I'm a potion master and I have gotten multiple procs off Fel Strength Elixirs, whereas guild mates who are elixir masters haven't gotten any.

With Blizzard's plans to revamp the professions I would expect you should be able to re-choose your specialization if your profession was to receive major changes. Hopefully anyway.

Ah ok, sorry for the confusion. To be completely honest, in regards to flasks, I don't really think anything should be able to proc extra flasks. Anything to promote heavier usage of flasks is a negative in my mind, which this would do.

Edit: nevermind

I think its the raid bosses that are promoting (if not requiring) heavier usage of flasks. Just because I got a five proc for flask of fortification doesn't mean I'll give it to my warrior for Mana Tombs. If anything, the mastery is reducing the extra costs needed to flask up while learning encounters.

Is the Fel Mana Potion debuff (presumably it's still classed as that, even if it's working backwards right now) Ice Block-able?

If I had to guess I would say yes because it is removed when you die.

Count the number of pots you have after you finish doing the combines/count the number of herbs you need to do x combines. Most people in this thread are intentionally trying to discover something so they farm up for 4-5k combines then do them all at once.

They could be using an add-on to of course, but not as likely.

Can someone tell me if Ancient Lichen is still solo farmable by a rogue in some of the lower level instances? If so it looks like I'll be leveling a rogue.

I believe it is possible to solo farm, I have been doing many stealth runs of The Underbog to get those plants to rep up with Sporreggar and in these runs I have picked up some Ancient Lichen. Not much mind you but its still possibleto stealth farm.

Amusing tidbit: When transmuting a Heart of Fire into Elemental Fires, transmuter mastery may actually cause one to receive 2 EFs instead of the normal 3.

You cannot Iceblock out of the debuff.

In other Alchemy related news I changed from Transmutation master to Elixir master today.

http://www.badgerz.com/forum_pics/alch_spec_change.jpg

Not to take something away from you ... but do you really think its prudent to post a picture of your GM conversation where its obvious that you cheated ... a little.

I somehow doubt anyone cares enough to swap it back.

At 67, before reaching the Naga, I can safely hit 11 nodes of Hibiscus and around 8 possible nodes of Ancient Lichen (there's one of each that is impossible without clearing the mobs, and one that is iffy depending on what type of mob is closest, with underbat having a slightly smaller aggro range). If I'm feeling adventurous, I would take the trouble and risk to get through the stealth-detection Sentries and farm the rest of the instance (which would yield at least 4 more Hibiscus and 1-3 possible nodes of Ancient Lichen).

My rogue is also a miner, so I often get 1-2 nodes of Adamantite (Rich if I'm lucky), and I can pick 2 of the 3 chest spawn locations for even more booty. Underbog is a farming heaven compared to grinding mobs for money.

Got 3 Primal Mights last night in my first transmute attempt after obtaining mastery. If I was only this lucky with the discoveries.

The Fel debuff isn't affected by ice block or divine shield or anything else that I'm aware of, which is pretty annoying.