I also farm this spot. Are you trying to say that you can get to up to 8 concurrent spawns of ancient lichen? I think only 3-4 can spawn at once, from ~8 locations (is this what you're trying to say?)

When you hit 70 you should be able to clear that 3 pack to get to the 3rd chest.

The latter. There are around 8 possible spawn points that I can get to safely. No way I'm lucky enough to have all of them up at the same time, and unlike Hibiscus, which according to my theory is that at any given time there are only a certain number of them up at once, and when you picked one, it will immediately spawn at another spot that hasn't been farmed yet.

I forgot to take into account the stupidity of the average player. The transmute economy on Bloodscalp has already managed to take a bass-ackwards dive. Primal Mights are selling for about 100g when the raw materials needed to make them cost about 125g. Cut, finished Earthstorm Diamonds are selling for 50g when the raw mats are running about 157g per transmute.

To hell with this, I'm going Tailoring. Far more useful for a Shadow Priest anyway.

Has anyone noticed that sometimes Potion Mastery will allow you to make more than one Elixir, just like Elixir Mastery is supposed to do? I was under the impression that you could only get multiples of potions from Potion Mastery. I don't have the screen shots to prove it but I definitely have seen it proc off an Elixir of Major Agility more than once when I am definitely Potion Mastery.

If you want to make money transmuting its quite simple, farm Sporeggar (easiest rep grind EVER) rep for a few hours to get the earth->water transmute. Aside from discovering shadow->water, this is the best recipe there is. By current Allakhazam prices it'll net over 20g per day, plus the occational procs.

I've only had one proc so far (1*earthstorm diamond) in close to 10 transmutes which is very annoying since I was under the impression it was like a 50% chance when I chose it, but I'm still happy with it. I didnt level alchemy to be some imba elixir and flask maker, I just wanted the trinket.

I hear some of the elixirs and potions are mislabeled in the code somewhere, though as an Elixir Master I've definitely proc'd Major Agility. Fel Strength Elixir is one I've never proc'd and have heard Potion Masters have.

That sounds about right, It happened a long while ago, so I can't be sure that it wasn't a Fel Strength Elixir.

If you took the time to read the post, you'd see that I was responding to a potion master who also proc'd the major agility elixir... meaning both masteries proc it and that it's probably a different sort of bug that causes the wrong mastery to proc, rather than a simple misslabeling.

A practical tangent to your post are my impressions of the Trinket itself.

1. If you went alchemy for the Trinket alone or almost exclusively, be prepared for a slight disappointment.

2. However, in and of itself it is the best trinket hands-down for Shamans and Druids who aim to diversify their roles (as discussed eariler on these very forums), in both PvP and PvE it is amazing to get healed for 3500 from a healthstone, or crit a super mana pot for almost your entire mana pool (unbuffed in my case, 7700). However:

3. In being all-purpose, the Alchemist's Stonedoes lose out in specific comparision to the mana gained over time from say Bangle of Endless Blessings.

4. Thankfully, the mats are fairly easy, but even so I look at the mats for a Planar Edge and cry a little, since clearly my trinket does not really compare to a perpetually upgradable weapon which starts with such high DPS.

To continue your tangent, while I would agree that the Alchemist's Stone is not an all-purpose trinket, I would say that on any fight where you need to chain-potion to keep your mana pool healthy, or even any fight where you potion once or twice, this trinket is hands-down the absolute best thing you can get as a healer.

For example, look at Fel Mana potion. It is a guaranteed 3200 mana return (assuming you don't top off on mana before all ticks expire). Fel mana potion, if used every 2 minutes equates to 133.5 mp/5.

This trinket turns that into a guaranteed return of 4480 mana (560 per tick instead of 400), which is a 53.3 mp/5 improvement in mana return via potion. With the trinket equipped, you are looking at 186.6 mp/5 if potting every 2 minutes. You won't find anything close to this from any other trinkets.

For Super Mana Potions, the 'mean' return is 2400 per pot (100 mp/5), or 3360 (140 mp/5) with the stone. 40 mp/5 difference with the stone on, if taking Super Mana potions every two minutes.

And thats without even mentioning the benefits you may see from the static 15 stam, 15 intellect, and 15 spirit.

And the mats are easy, plus its a one-time investment. I love it.

My apologies if this has been discussed before but it's not likely I could read through 35 pages and hit the mark anyway. I just had my first discovery today, I learned Primal Mana to Primal Fire and it hit off of a might transmute. Here's a screenshot: http://chuckg.org/dump/2007/primal_discovery.jpg

I'm currently (stuck and miserable) as a transmute mastery spec and have been trying for a discovery going on 3 weeks now. I've combined over 1000 potions in that time (yea I counted) in my attempt to actually learn something and it comes as a surprise and a shock that I learned a transmute. But a question comes to mind; am I only allowed to learn transmute's as a transmute master? Taking it a step further, am I only allowed to discover transmutes by transmuting? They're pretty worthless considering it only takes 10 minutes tops to farm a primal of any type, give or take some luck and although I'm excited to have finally discovered something, disappoint is seeping it's way in.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

I've read through a good deal of it and like I said, my apologies if I missed it. The quickness with which people are willing to call someone down are legendary especially when they've nothing to offer in regards to the question posed. Next time I'll make sure to re-word my initial post so that it says 're-read'.

I am transmute spec and have discovered both Fortification and Relentless Assault, so I can answer part of your question. The part about only learning transmutes while doing transmutes, I have no clue.

Mastery has no bearing on what you discover as far as we can tell.

Transmutes only will discover other transmutes. Everything else discovers the flasks and the one or two potions which are discovered. I can only presume that transmutes have a much higher chance to be discovered, but since you can only transmute once per day you can't power through it.

There is a transmute on a 10 min recycle (Heart of fire -> elemental fire) if you desire to try and 'force' learn new transmutes that would probably be the best way of going about it.

Thank god for that, I guess now all I have to be disappointed in is the 1000 or so combines I've done without a potion or flask discovery. At least I know now I'm not limited to transmutes only.

It was my understanding that only potions/elixirs/transmutes new to TBC could offer a discovery, so I don't think that would work.

69 pages is a small novel. This thread was started back in August of last year, and there's a great deal of information that is irrelevant. Questions about a topic on this board are generally expected to be posted on a relavent thread, rather than creating a new thread.

Don't go too hard on the guy.

Anyone care to take a stab how it's possible for a 375 blacksmith/375 engineer to discover an alchemy flask by drinking a Fel Strength Elixir? I wouldn't have believed it if I wasn't right next to him when it happened:

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/6acdcb3ff0.jpg

I think anywhere in this thread someone mentioned that he learned Flask of Relentless Assault from creating an Elixir of Brute Force, but I couldn't find the posting

Gotta second this post. Alchemist Stone is THE BEST trinket for a healer right now, and it would take a hell of a trinket to top it. No others even come close. Now if only I get myself a Bangle of Infinite Blessings to go along with it...

My only issue with it is that it seems to not work with Dreamless Sleep potions. I've only tested the highest level Dreamless Sleep so I don't know if its universal. I'm pretty sure this is a bug, I don't see why it wouldn't work with them.

Probably because the game handle it as a debuff, not as a potion. Maybe it's fixed in 2.0.10 but i doubt it since they're restricting even more the items affected by the stone.

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