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Old 01/07/07, 4:43 PM   #176
TheCutlery
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Originally Posted by Evalara
Why would you ever sell transmutes as a service? Just buy the mats and sell the result.

The market price spread between an Arcane Crystal+Thorium Bar and an Arcanite Bar was once as high as 10g on my server, yet I would still see "WTS Arcanite Transmute 4G" in the trade channel (with worse spelling of course). Also if you watched for it, you could occasionally catch someone dumping large quantities of crystals for below-market prices. I once bought a big pile at 13g each when Arcanite Bars were going for 30g+ each.
Well, I dunno about you, but as an arcanite consumer for a good chunk of my warrior's days (Lionheart + Reaper), I did not ever buy arcanite because an Arcane Crystal + Thorium + 5g was cheaper. I'd say it's actually a fluke that you managed to sell arcanite for that much when you could just have a pile transmuted in a few hours for you for significantly less cost.

Of course, we can't really speak for the intelligence of the population in regards to the economics I guess.

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Old 01/07/07, 4:50 PM   #177
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Originally Posted by Fredson
Something I noted while searching thottbot is that this vendor (according to the all so accurate thottbot) sells potions for a, to me, fair price. I'm pretty sure this is not the case but I sure hope it is.

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?n=1119
I spoke to this guy last night.. No agility potions or similar, but he is now selling "Major Combat Mana Pots" and "Major Combat Health Pots" These restore the same as the non-combat variants, are unique(10) and only require 2 tokens from any of the BGs, so finally something to do with those BG tokens that are rotting in my mailbox.

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Old 01/07/07, 6:01 PM   #178
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Originally Posted by Cadfael
Go to the blasted lands (that's where the portal and Kazzak is). This zone is relatively small (kazzak area has no herbs), yet contains highly valued herbs (gromsblood). Spend a bit of time to find an optimal path trough the zone, touching all herb nodes that are in the zone. Do not forget the altar in the mountain area, there are 3 or 4 gromsblood spawn points there too!
What do you mean "touch all herb nodes?" Are you saying just open the herb, but do not loot the item into your inventory?

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Old 01/07/07, 6:11 PM   #179
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Originally Posted by Vosk
Faction Vendor:

300 Alchemy:
Flask of the Titans: Sold at Exalted with Sha'tar
Flask of Supreme Power: Sold at Exalted with Caverns of Time
Flask of Distilled Wisdom: Sold at Exalted with Cenarion Expedition
Flask of Chromatic Resistance: Sold at Exalted with Lower City
I notice there is no Flask of Petrification recipe available. The fact that it is the most useless flask available - EJ's attempts to kill Hakkar with all of his aspects up aside - has anybody seen it at Exalted faction anywhere?

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Old 01/07/07, 7:11 PM   #180
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Originally Posted by sadris
Originally Posted by Cadfael
Go to the blasted lands (that's where the portal and Kazzak is). This zone is relatively small (kazzak area has no herbs), yet contains highly valued herbs (gromsblood). Spend a bit of time to find an optimal path trough the zone, touching all herb nodes that are in the zone. Do not forget the altar in the mountain area, there are 3 or 4 gromsblood spawn points there too!
What do you mean "touch all herb nodes?" Are you saying just open the herb, but do not loot the item into your inventory?
No, select a path through the zone where you can cross the whole zone as fast as possible BUT by doing so, you will pass by near enough of all nodes so you won't miss one. Ie make sure that you "visit" each and every node in the zone to check wheter that node is active (spawned) or not.

Obviously, you don't need to walk over the exact spawn points, just pass by near enough so that you know for certain wheter it is active or not. Do take a bit of leeway, the rate at which the data is updated (either sent to the client or displayed) seems to follow a 4 second pulse or something in that vicinity.

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Old 01/07/07, 7:18 PM   #181
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Yeah, I've noticed the "pulse" thing too, it's for that reason that I don't equip all my fastest riding gear while herbing, otherwise you can end up on top of the nodes before they appear on your scanner, which is a bit of a nuisance, if nothing else.

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Old 01/07/07, 11:07 PM   #182
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Originally Posted by Illian
Engineering also appears to be getting several new Schematics. The usual scopes and goggles but I also saw one for a five minute mailbox like the repair bot and a mote extractor, which might be a new resource that engineers can gather and sell (since little else in that profession is terribly profitable at high levels).
There's nothing I'm more interested in than if the mote extractor+Ultra-Spectropic Detection Goggles will be a good gathering skill or a waste of time (now if that isn't a geeky sentence..).

Anyone got any experience with this? Otherwise I just want to throw that useless profession away and don't want to start doing that mid-tbc.

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Old 01/13/07, 3:30 PM   #183
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Sorry if this has been answered already but in the expac, how easy is it to change within specializations (transmutes, elixirs, pots). What is required to change back and forth? Completely dropping the profession or something easier?

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Old 01/13/07, 10:23 PM   #184
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Originally Posted by GamingManiac
Sorry if this has been answered already but in the expac, how easy is it to change within specializations (transmutes, elixirs, pots). What is required to change back and forth? Completely dropping the profession or something easier?
Hrm, I may have missed it, but I don't recall seeing a quest to switch to a new specialization once you've selected one. It may just be NYI right now.

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Old 01/13/07, 11:17 PM   #185
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Originally Posted by GamingManiac
Sorry if this has been answered already but in the expac, how easy is it to change within specializations (transmutes, elixirs, pots). What is required to change back and forth? Completely dropping the profession or something easier?
Ya, very intrested in this considering I would like to go primal mooncloth spec on my tailor for bags and switch spec later so I can use the +shadow/+frost epic set on my warlock if I still dont have T4 or something similar

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Old 01/14/07, 2:21 AM   #186
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Originally Posted by Natrozim
Originally Posted by GamingManiac
Sorry if this has been answered already but in the expac, how easy is it to change within specializations (transmutes, elixirs, pots). What is required to change back and forth? Completely dropping the profession or something easier?
Ya, very intrested in this considering I would like to go primal mooncloth spec on my tailor for bags and switch spec later so I can use the +shadow/+frost epic set on my warlock if I still dont have T4 or something similar
You most likely won't be making all those mats yourself -- it would take forever. You'll be trading the other cloths for the one you want (since you can xmute all kinds, but only one is double).

Changing specializations is supposed to be doable without re-leveling the profession.

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Old 01/14/07, 2:47 PM   #187
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Originally Posted by Melthar
Originally Posted by Fredson
Something I noted while searching thottbot is that this vendor (according to the all so accurate thottbot) sells potions for a, to me, fair price. I'm pretty sure this is not the case but I sure hope it is.

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?n=1119
I spoke to this guy last night.. No agility potions or similar, but he is now selling "Major Combat Mana Pots" and "Major Combat Health Pots" These restore the same as the non-combat variants, are unique(10) and only require 2 tokens from any of the BGs, so finally something to do with those BG tokens that are rotting in my mailbox.
It should also be noted that Major Combat pots that require different tokens are actually different items. Meaning, you can have a stack of 10 pots from WSG tokens, a stack of 10 pots from AB tokens, etc. Not sure if this is intended or not, but there it is.

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Old 01/15/07, 1:47 PM   #188
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I didn't see it in any patch notes, but Elixir of Brute Force is currently trainable in live.

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Old 01/15/07, 1:49 PM   #189
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Indeed. I spent a couple hours getting Alchemy from 1-300 and have that recipe from the trainer.

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Old 01/15/07, 2:40 PM   #190
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Originally Posted by vespera
I didn't see it in any patch notes, but Elixir of Brute Force is currently trainable in live.
Makes me sad that I bought that recipe almost 2 years ago for some pretty hefty money (back then). :P

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Old 01/15/07, 2:42 PM   #191
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Originally Posted by tritium4ever
Originally Posted by vespera
I didn't see it in any patch notes, but Elixir of Brute Force is currently trainable in live.
Makes me sad that I bought that recipe almost 2 years ago for some pretty hefty money (back then). :P
Believe me, seeing Lifestealing recipes selling for 50g makes me sad too.

Greater Arcane Elixir was also added to the trainable list, not sure if that's patchnoted or not. Major Mana Potion was *not* added to the trainable list.

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Old 01/15/07, 2:43 PM   #192
Quasar
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Originally Posted by tritium4ever
Originally Posted by vespera
I didn't see it in any patch notes, but Elixir of Brute Force is currently trainable in live.
Makes me sad that I bought that recipe almost 2 years ago for some pretty hefty money (back then). :P
I actually got that recipe long ago on an old alt; a friend got it on one of his first turn-ins to the big ol' kodo and gave it to me since I was an Alchemist. Then I changed back to my old main to raid, and specced out of alchemy on the alt, and lost it forever. Tried for hours to farm it again. How pleasant to just swipe it from the trainer on my new main.

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Old 01/15/07, 2:50 PM   #193
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Originally Posted by GamingManiac
Sorry if this has been answered already but in the expac, how easy is it to change within specializations (transmutes, elixirs, pots). What is required to change back and forth? Completely dropping the profession or something easier?
Assuming it works the same as leatherworking, talk to the person who trains you in your existing specialisation, and they'll untrain it for a fee (50g, i believe). I haven't tried, but presumably after untraining it, you have to learn a new specialisation in the standard way (for leatherworking, it's a quest requiring you to turn in some crafted gear or materials, no idea about other professions).

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Old 01/15/07, 3:02 PM   #194
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I've always considered it a source of pride to have every single alchemy recipe in the game...even the horde quest reward recipe Discolored Healing Potion. Making formerly-rare recipes available at the trainer kind of cheapens the experience, though I suppose it only means I have another goal to work towards on the way to level 70 and beyond.

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Old 01/15/07, 3:58 PM   #195
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What i was most concerned about for alchemy is the good ole' alt for transmutes. Seeing as you have to be at least 58 to enter Outland and thusly unable to sneak in to obtain recipes. But that has been nullified because blizzard didnt decide to make things like transmute Primal might BoP recipes from vendors.

So alt transmuting will still be quite alive come xpac

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Old 01/15/07, 4:13 PM   #196
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Originally Posted by Kalman
Originally Posted by tritium4ever
Originally Posted by vespera
I didn't see it in any patch notes, but Elixir of Brute Force is currently trainable in live.
Makes me sad that I bought that recipe almost 2 years ago for some pretty hefty money (back then). :P
Believe me, seeing Lifestealing recipes selling for 50g makes me sad too.

Greater Arcane Elixir was also added to the trainable list, not sure if that's patchnoted or not. Major Mana Potion was *not* added to the trainable list.
Went to Scholo the other day and got 2x Lifestealing and 2x +9 Spi before we left the first room.

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Old 01/15/07, 4:16 PM   #197
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Originally Posted by Geo
What i was most concerned about for alchemy is the good ole' alt for transmutes. Seeing as you have to be at least 58 to enter Outland and thusly unable to sneak in to obtain recipes. But that has been nullified because blizzard didnt decide to make things like transmute Primal might BoP recipes from vendors.

So alt transmuting will still be quite alive come xpac
How exactly are you planning to get your level 35 transmute alt to 350 alchemy in order to do any of the new transmutes? The only GM alchemy trainer I know of is in the Outlands.

(Not to mention I believe it requires level 50 or 55 to train past 300.)

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Old 01/15/07, 4:25 PM   #198
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Originally Posted by Kalman
Originally Posted by Geo
What i was most concerned about for alchemy is the good ole' alt for transmutes. Seeing as you have to be at least 58 to enter Outland and thusly unable to sneak in to obtain recipes. But that has been nullified because blizzard didnt decide to make things like transmute Primal might BoP recipes from vendors.

So alt transmuting will still be quite alive come xpac
How exactly are you planning to get your level 35 transmute alt to 350 alchemy in order to do any of the new transmutes? The only GM alchemy trainer I know of is in the Outlands.

(Not to mention I believe it requires level 50 or 55 to train past 300.)
Ya thats what i thought as well but it seems that some leveling recipes are BoE like Transmute: primal Might.

Im not saying it will be easy per se like in WoW 1.0 but some recipes and such can filter out of outlands and land in the hands of alts in which in turn can be used to level alchemy. I could be completely off base on this but i think it is still possible

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Old 01/15/07, 4:27 PM   #199
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You're missing the point. Transmutes require 350 alchemy skill. To get above 300 alchemy skill you need to visit a grandmaster alchemy trainer which is located in Outland, which requires level 58

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Old 01/15/07, 4:30 PM   #200
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Originally Posted by Lord BEEF
You're missing the point. Transmutes require 350 alchemy skill. To get above 300 alchemy skill you need to visit a grandmaster alchemy trainer which is located in Outland, which requires level 58
Well there goes the delete button to that alt :P

Just say that because i dont believe transmuting arcanite will be big in the xpac at all. Of course ill keep it around till the economy levels out and such but if i cant turn a profit from it it will be abandoned/deleted for a dranei shammy

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