Say what?

Even in solo, it's about 48 str, in raid conditions, it's closer 70.

So during raids a single crusader enchant is procced 70% of the time for you? I wonder what's wrong with my crusader enchants.

Just as soon as the +hit or +crit enchant on my Bow adds to my melee attacks. Oh wait.

I'd like to see more interesting enchants for hunters, along the lifesteal/crusader line. It looked like they were going in that direction with the +elemental damage being switch, but Blizzard doesn't appear to have expanded on that idea yet.

No, it means 70% of the time I'm doing DPS in a raid, it's up. 15s is a long time for a proc that procs 1 ppm on auto-attack. With WF, WW, BT... it goes from being up 25% of the time to 70%. At the minimum, crusader is worth 25 str.

Or collecting coins for a so-so shoulder enchant because you can't get together enough people to down Sapphiron...

I doubt we will ever see wand enchants unless all classes can use them. That's a pretty big PVP buff for casters.

In the Curse database, it has higher damage scopes, and even a 2 to crit scope. However, ranged weaps take ammo to use and take time to "aim", while Wands are free to use (except for the global cooldown and annoying autocast mechanic).

I don't see a wand enchant coming out, and if they did then the hybrids would be calling for a relic enchant.

That would still leave out the three relic using classes, but I doubt that's the reason. Not exactly overpowered to boost wand dps a bit..

Oh, that would be easy, just let us put the +stats enchants on the Relics. :P

Does enchanting wands and rings bother anyone else? A ring and a wand seem like pure magic items: little tokens bearing powerful enchantments.

You make the same argument are armor, but armor seems less purely magical and more about its own innate awesomeness (poor phrasing on my part). Wrath shoulders just look like excellent tanking gear. Armor and weapons seem natural objects to add extra effects to (especially proc style effects). Gems, armor kits, weapon chains, mithril spurs etc, all seem like valid modifications for these large objects.

But wands and rings are nothing but enchanted tokens. Adding another enchantment on top of that just seems silly.

WTB belt enchant.

that 2% crit scope makes me think of the 3% hit scope...think blizzard will allow it to effect melee attacks or nerf it like they did to biznick?

the text on the site says "scope that attaches to a ranged weapon that increases *ITS* chance to crit by 2%. it won't work on melee.

it seems no one noticed that the ring enchants are SELF ONLY so you`ll have to be an enchanter to get them. i`m seriously thinking of picking up enchanting right now.
as for pants enchants, i don`t see many 20 spell damage 18 stam around considering the mats are almost double + BOP itemfor only 2 spell damage and 3 stam (and a rep grind to exalted instead of revered).

People here have known this for over 2 months.

I myself am seriously considering to level my useless disenchanting. Tried to level blacksmithing abit, but after 2 300 enchanting grinds (I love druids) I still find leveling enchanting easier then blacksmithing.

I reckon the drum consumables from leatherworking are at least as good as ring enchants; ring enchants are mostly so there's a point to having enchanting on mains besides one or two guild enchanters who collect the BoP raid-drop patterns, but I don't think they're so good that you must take enchanting to min-max (I suppose there's nothing preventing you from taking enchanting/LW to min-max, other than that you have to rely on other people for all the leather to actually make the drums...).

Yeah I dropped herbalism on my main earlier this week and began leveling enchanting.

Am I mistaken or were some of those enchants class specific? I remember reading that the boots enchant with 1% hit and 5% snare resistance was rogue only. That would certainly be a questionable choice for me as a fury warrior who enjoys pvp over minor speed increase. The AP to 2h is nice but I still think on a slow weapon, with ppm the way it is, crusader is still not replaceable. And for dw fury there seems to be nothing that can even come close to double crusader. And as Shik said mongoose on a tanking weapon will be a welcome addition, proc based is more fun.

+AP to 2h weapon is a hunter enchant, not a warrior one. Since blizzard refuses to add enchants that affect ranged attacks, that's all we get.

+agi doesnt affect ranged attacks? I think the +ap enchant is a replacement for the agi enchants, due to agi contributing less ap, but that statement was a little misleading.

Shoulders
Greater Inscription of the Knight
Greater Inscription of Warding

Head
Glyph of Ferocity
I can't find one specifically designed for tanks, though I expect they will add it later.

Legs
Clefthide Leg Armor
Nethercleft Leg Armor

Im in the middle of lvling my disenchanting, and its horrible and costs too much gold. I recommend atleast thinking about it twice.

Including the context helps. The discussion was about proc enchants. Hunters get none, on either ranged or melee weapons. We're stuck with +ap/agi. Whining about how scopes don't affect melee (not referring to you, but a previous poster) and thus melee shouldn't affect ranged is idiotic. It becomes a valid argument when ranged has more than 1/10 the viable end game enchants that melee has.

I know that 8 stats, or 20 spelldamage, or 4 weapondamage, is nice... but it seems like every profession is going to have a small "only for those of that profession" boost to be had, and I don't know if I'd drop something as core as herbalism just to get it.