If there's a weapon skill rating I wonder if they're gonna change Human/Orc racials.

They're exceptionally nice now and would automatically become even more powerful in BC heh.

The whole point is that with the gear, AP and abilities available at level 70 the 300 damage proc will look a lot less impressive.

Maybe a sily question but with crit, hit currently on items at the moment being reduced in effectiveness as we level and obviously agi, str as well, would the most lasting items in terms of melee dps be those that add straight AP?

that brings up a good point khalim.

currently item's are currently balanced (point wise, and state wise) where 1str = 2ap.

obviously as you level to 70, strength will decrease in it's dps value (but not ITEM value).

what will happen to item point's then? will strength become cheaper on items? (doubt it)

from the screenies it's clear there isn't an AP rating, so does this mean that at level 70, str will be horrible as an AP mod (i.e it will cost double the price of AP on items, but won't give double the AP) on warriors / paladins / shamans and feral druids (compared to flat out AP).

interesting.

At level 60 1 str gives 2 ap (or 1 for 1 for rogues) but was this the case when you were level 30?

As I understand it the higher the level the more str,agi, stam etc that you need to get the same benefit? So by the time we are level 70, my helm which gives me 30str and thus 60 ap at level 60 will now give me less AP?

Thus my logic is that if your helm gave you 60AP instead of 30str it has better longevity as you level because straight AP doesnt seem to be getting rated. Does this make sense of am I missing something obvious?

Sounds logical, but is there really a "rating" for strength => AP?
I don't think so. Imagine one levels from 59 to 60. With the same items and therefore same strength he would suddenly drop in AP, which I don't believe does happen (well, at least at the moment).
Though I would like to hear someone with real knowledge.

Last I checked, AP was excluded from this calculation. It's just a straight 1:1 (or 2:1 for the luckier classes) regardless of level.


ETA: I should correct myself in saying that your level does appear to affect your base AP, as one would expect--of course my level 60 is naturally beefier than a level 2!--but not the str/agi:AP ratio.

Sorry then, poor assumption on my behalf.

This is an interesting thread, and I can see why blizzard would do this - to encourage everyone to get new items. It does sound like its going to make gear selection a bit more complicated.

I think they would at least include item level in the equation and compare that against the player's level. For the most part that wouldn't matter since most/all of the raiding sets are level 60 anyway, but it makes sense that an item with 2% to crit that's level 58, for example, would only have 1.93% crit to a level 59 player and 1.85% to a level 60 player. Granded its probably a moot point since everyone has level 60 gear anyway, but for those that don't I'll bet item level is included in the calculation.

Sorry about the ressurect, but I didn't want to clutter the Resilience thread with a rating question.

Has anyone had the chance to look at how Rating affects players lower than 60? Blackhands Breadth can technically be obtained at level 55, and basing it on the (64/14)*2^(-level/10) %crit per point of rating, you could be getting 2.83% crit from the 28 Rating of Blackhands. If pre-60 items are being balanced for level 60's, should they be more powerful for <60's like Agi currently is?

Or is BB balanced for ilevel 60 (requires level 55) and the formula above is incorrect? (doubtful)

Someone said that ratings are static for level 1-60. Tho I have no quote of that nor any other way to prove it.

Since there are items like http://thottbot.com/?i=2237. I would guess the scaling works on a different formula between 1 and 59. Or lower level items get less crit rating per old crit. +16% crit from a ilevel 25 item is too silly.

Anyone got any definite answers?