Quickie - Medallion versus Pendant

grimjack · 09/07/06, 11:19 AM

Why is Pendant of the Qiraji Guardian - http://www.thottbot.com/?i=52615 better than Medallion of Steadfast Might - http://www.thottbot.com/?i=27079. I admit I'm terrible at theorycraft but it seems the Medallion might be a little better. What am I missing?

Thank you for you replies

Fiola · 09/07/06, 11:22 AM

Higher iLevel due to the drop being from a more difficult instance?

Or do you consider the Medallion better, and wonder why the Pendant isn't a straight upgrade from the Medallion?

Look at the stats:
Pendant has 24 AP, .55% crit, .55% dodge, +17sta, +6 def
Medallion has 18 AP, 1% dodge, +13 sta, +8 def

2 Def and .45% dodge vs. 6 AP, .55% crit, and 4 Sta. Trading a bit of mitigation for damage stats. DPS Tank gear. = P

Andrise · 09/07/06, 11:26 AM

It's better for some situations because it has more str and agi, which give you a decent amount of ap and crit. So fights where you offtank for part of the fight and then DPS, etc. it is a better neck. For straight tanking stats, they are probably very close to equivalent.

Krug · 09/07/06, 11:30 AM

They are about the same really one is just more OT/DPS oriented. The only neck I can think thats better for straight tanking is Mark of C'thun and to a lesser extent the nef neck.

grimjack · 09/07/06, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Fiola

Higher iLevel due to the drop being from a more difficult instance?

Or do you consider the Medallion better, and wonder why the Pendant isn't a straight upgrade from the Medallion?

Look at the stats:
Pendant has 24 AP, .55% crit, .55% dodge, +17sta, +6 def
Medallion has 18 AP, 1% dodge, +13 sta, +8 def

2 Def and .45% dodge vs. 6 AP, .55% crit, and 4 Sta. Trading a bit of mitigation for damage stats. DPS Tank gear. = P

I was thinking the pendant was kind of schizophrenic and wasn't sure what class it was for. It has damage benefit but some protection. I wasn't thinking straight upgrade but wondering, since it's a more difficult instance, what makes it better.

So a hybrid tank could see more benefit from it. A straight prot warrior might be better off with the Medallion.

Thank you

Oaken · 09/07/06, 11:55 AM

A bit like the Signet of the Fallen Guardian (140 Armor, +24 Stamina, +1% to hit) it seems. Damage mitigation roughly at a Heavy Dark Iron Ring level but 1% to hit. Well, unless you are a feral Druid, then its a sweet damage mitigation ring, period.

Krug · 09/07/06, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by grimjack

since it's a more difficult instance, what makes it better.

Don't fall into this line of thinking, its a trap. :P

One of the better examples I can think of:

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=18821
40 AP 1 crit and 8 stamina for the majority of classes. (sorry rogues/hunters)

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21677
40 AP 1 crit and 12 stamina for all classes.

thats an 11 ilvl difference compared to the 5 ilvl difference of pendant and medallion, and if you're thinking about it as far as difficulty of bosses, visc is quite a bit harder than skeram. If you compare it to the 4 molten core bosses QSR drops off of, its pretty comical that its only slightly worse.

Edit: Its all about how they spend the stat budget and how it relates to you. If you want 425 def, you can weigh defense more heavily. If you want 25% block, look for those +% block items that you're willing to sacrifice a little for.