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09/07/06, 11:35 AM
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Von Kaiser
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http://www.risen-guild.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3469
Its horrible, The proc rate is very low, its 5% or less. It procs so rarely that it hardly ever renews itself before it expires. When it does proc twice within 30 seconds it doesnt stack, just renews the 30 second timer. Then the proc itself sucks... its 24 mana per 5 seconds, not every tick or second.....Basicly, have fun wearing 3 peice trans till BC! Sad
Just be clear, I've actually only got it to renew itself before expiring while testing the proc in which I was chain casting on myself, don't think its ever renewed using it normally during fights....it sucks that bad.
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Sorry to renew an old thread, but it appears the 8 piece faith bonus is as bad as it could be. WTF...seriously. I'm really pissed off that 3 piece trans will still be "de facto" a year and a half after I got it.
Trans bracer / legs / belt ftw?
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09/07/06, 11:36 AM
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Moltenmich
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/sigh
I was afraid of this.
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09/07/06, 11:46 AM
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#3
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/facepalm
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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If they keep it at the current proc rate, they need to make it 24mana/tick (2 seconds), or else it is indeed trash.
Either that or increase the proc rate.
Or hell, make it something unique, like:
Has an x% chance to trigger an epiphany, allowing 100% of mana regeneration from spirit to continue for y seconds.
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09/07/06, 11:55 AM
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Karakas
If they keep it at the current proc rate, they need to make it 24mana/tick (2 seconds), or else it is indeed trash.
Either that or increase the proc rate.
Or hell, make it something unique, like:
Has an x% chance to trigger an epiphany, allowing 100% of mana regeneration from spirit to continue for y seconds.
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Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon will give you the same amount of mana regen and you don't even have to clear Naxx for it.
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I believe in Harvey Dent.
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09/07/06, 12:02 PM
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#5
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/facepalm
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Blue Dragon does take up a potential equipment slot though. I have no problem with set bonuses being weaker than a set of gear, but to be weaker than another, must more easily obtained set bonus, which actually outweighs both the harder set bonus and the stats you give up by using the lower tier gear, is unbalanced itemization.
Giving 8pc Faith a Blue Dragon-esque proc is fine. Just balance the numbers so that it's at least ON PAR with 3pc Trans so you'll see people using Faith because of the better stats + equivilent set bonus.
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09/07/06, 12:09 PM
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Piston Honda
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On the bright side the Trans mana regen bonus is only 3 pieces. Imagine if it were the five or, Jet Li forbid, 8 piece. I'm looking at Trans Belt, Pants, and I'm thinking Robes to go with Bracelets of Royal Redemption + Faith Shoulders, Helm, Gloves, and Boots. I'm more concerned with the 2 piece bonus, so I may just stick with that and more non-set gear, but I'm pretty far down on the list for Faith which gives me more time to think about it rather than have very expensive Tier 3 go to waste if I decide to do something else.
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09/07/06, 12:16 PM
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#7
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Piston Honda
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/sigh + /forehead
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09/07/06, 12:17 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by CrazyCarl
On the bright side the Trans mana regen bonus is only 3 pieces. Imagine if it were the five or, Jet Li forbid, 8 piece.
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I guess that's always been my biggest problem with the 3 piece trans bonus. IMO it's the best set bonus in the game for priests. Why does it only require you to kill one boss in BWL to obtain? Like you said though, I'm definitely happy that it only takes three pieces to get, that allows for a lot of flexibility. I just hope Blizzard revisits the proc on 8 faith to at least make it on par. The difficulty of obtaining 8 faith and 3 trans is not even in the same ballpark and I feel the bonuses should reflect that.
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09/07/06, 12:18 PM
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#9
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Piston Honda
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Basically 3 Trans fully buffed, in my opinion the best gear obtainable for my playstyle, gives approximately 40 mp/5. Some will say that more regen is unnecesary, but I find that the more regen you get the more liberal you can be with you Flash Heal, PW:S, Renew, higher ranks of GHeal and less reliant on Heal 2 or GHeal 1-3.
Wishlist : http://www.ctprofiles.net/62257
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09/07/06, 12:23 PM
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Piston Honda
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It makes things much more "easy mode" for the Priests, same with Druids. IDK what they were thinking, but maybe they just wanted healing to a bit easier to speed up progression?
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09/07/06, 12:26 PM
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Glass Joe
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I held out a lot of hope that the 8-piece Faith bonus would specifically be a stackable buff and that's what would make it so "awesome."
Hopefully they can get someone new to itemize Priest set armor in the expansion or change the current Faith bonus to be worth it. Otherwise, I'll stick to my planned gear out of BWL/AQ40 with two-piece Tier 3.
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09/07/06, 12:29 PM
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#12
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Ask me about cleave chains
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This is probably the one time the man with hand on forehead ASCII art could be used here.
:wth:
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Originally Posted by Fric
Fingering a girl while she argues with her husband-to-be is perhaps my new low point morally in my horribly debauched life
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09/07/06, 12:48 PM
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#13
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Great Tiger
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Name me one 8 piece bonus that is worth the effort.
Please.
Just one.
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There's always free cheese in the mouse traps, but the mice there ain't happy.
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09/07/06, 12:53 PM
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Soda Popinski
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Originally Posted by Bibdy
Name me one 8 piece bonus that is worth the effort.
Please.
Just one.
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Redemption 8pc is pretty hot, though situational.
Also: Giantstalker 8pc. Some people don't consider it to be worth breaking until 8pc Dragonstalker.
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ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Jesus don't want me in a sunbeam
Sunbeams are always made on me
Don't expect me to cry, for all the reasons I'm gonna die
Don't ever ask your kick of me.
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09/07/06, 12:54 PM
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#15
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Von Kaiser
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Bibdy, we are warlocks. We have never seen a good 8pc bonus since felheart.
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09/07/06, 12:55 PM
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Bibdy
Name me one 8 piece bonus that is worth the effort.
Please.
Just one.
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Assuming you aren't referring to just T3... 8 pc Trans HoT is pretty damn nice...
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09/07/06, 12:56 PM
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Piston Honda
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Question.. What about Druid's and 3 Stormrage how does that work out? I'm pretty clueless when it comes to itemization for a Druid.
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09/07/06, 12:58 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Eight piece might is somewhat nifty.
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09/07/06, 12:59 PM
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Great Tiger
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Originally Posted by Fermion
Bibdy, we are warlocks. We have never seen a good 8pc bonus since felheart.
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Its not even just Warlocks. Nearly every damned set has an 8 piece bonus that is just 'meh'.
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There's always free cheese in the mouse traps, but the mice there ain't happy.
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09/07/06, 1:00 PM
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Soda Popinski
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Originally Posted by Zwink
Question.. What about Druid's and 3 Stormrage how does that work out? I'm pretty clueless when it comes to itemization for a Druid.
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Less of a concern for Druids because they have Spirit/5 as their multiplier for regen, rather than Spirit/4.
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ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Jesus don't want me in a sunbeam
Sunbeams are always made on me
Don't expect me to cry, for all the reasons I'm gonna die
Don't ever ask your kick of me.
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09/07/06, 1:01 PM
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Undead Warlock
Tichondrius
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Originally Posted by Bibdy
Name me one 8 piece bonus that is worth the effort.
Please.
Just one.
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8 Peice trans was definately, definately worth the effort. As were all of the bonuses from the trans set. For me its looking like Robes, Bracers, Pants to get my 3 peice, then one day :) Bracers, Belt, Pants to make room for the robes.
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09/07/06, 1:08 PM
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#22
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Piston Honda
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Blizzard needs to clone whoever developed the final Transcendence set bonuses. Faith, Prophecy and Oracle bonuses cannot touch Transcendence for it's usefulness and longevity.
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09/07/06, 1:08 PM
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Minotas
Eight piece might is somewhat nifty.
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Even 8/8 Might is rather meh, you may be generating more threat per sunder application, but in the end, your still wearing Might :(
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09/07/06, 1:08 PM
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Bald Bull
Tauren Druid
Black Dragonflight
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uh...netherwind, especially for fire mages?
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09/07/06, 1:16 PM
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#25
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Piston Honda
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For the priests that have 8/8 trans and a fair bit of Faith, I'd be interested to see a poll of what actually gets worn in Naxx boss fights.
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