Yes, Nihilum killed Kel'Thuzad - Page 12

XI- · 09/09/06, 9:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mortalis

Nihilum and DnT both killed Horsemen on the same maintenance week. The fight is not hard it just required 8 warriors. None of the top guilds had this and had to recruit warriors to beat the horsemen. The very first or 2nd day these guilds had 8 warriors they won. It's that simple.

You should stop talking about things you have no clue about, it just makes you look like an idiot.

Kaubel · 09/09/06, 9:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mortalis

Nihilum and DnT both killed Horsemen on the same maintenance week. The fight is not hard it just required 8 warriors. None of the top guilds had this and had to recruit warriors to beat the horsemen. The very first or 2nd day these guilds had 8 warriors they won. It's that simple.

You're an idiot. It's that simple.

:redhammer:

Hematite · 09/09/06, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Oaken

Does it strike anybody else as odd that Blizzard feels it necessary to include a legendary melee weapon, albeit a temporary one, in the quest chain for the only legendary caster we've had so far?

Legendary weapons are for warriors, I guess this was a compromise.

Mist · 09/10/06, 12:16 AM

Any other rogues holding their breath for a kill with a confirmed Gressil drop on a live server? :P

Natrozim · 09/10/06, 3:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mist

Any other rogues holding their breath for a kill with a confirmed Gressil drop on a live server? :P

I am :)

So far it looks like Kel'Thuzad drops a LOT of weapons, might take a while to see if gressil does actually still exist :)

• Chicken · 09/10/06, 3:44 PM

Originally Posted by Natrozim

Originally Posted by Mist

Any other rogues holding their breath for a kill with a confirmed Gressil drop on a live server? :P

I am :)

So far it looks like Kel'Thuzad drops a LOT of weapons, might take a while to see if gressil does actually still exist :)

I actually think his non-set drops are exclusively weapons. Talk about a reversal of previous loot tables, though Naxx does that in general with weapons (finally!) not being the rare drops.

Saternium · 09/10/06, 4:02 PM

He has the warrior gloves with immune to disarm, the dps caster neck and the melee dps neck in his non-set loot table. At least according to the PTR data-mining, so not all weapons, just mostly weapons.

Dozer · 09/10/06, 4:03 PM

Also the healing shield with the matching graphic to the Hammer of the Twisting Nether.

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• Chicken · 09/10/06, 4:14 PM

Oh right. It's still a crazy amount of weapons compared to non-weapons however.

Grayson Carlyle · 09/10/06, 5:17 PM

And the strongest point is that I'm willing to bet all items have an equal chance to drop from his table. We'll have to see a few hundred kills to get good numbers, but weapons on every other end-boss have half the chance to drop that non-weapons do.

Zynth · 09/10/06, 7:29 PM

Originally Posted by Grayson Carlyle

And the strongest point is that I'm willing to bet all items have an equal chance to drop from his table. We'll have to see a few hundred kills to get good numbers, but weapons on every other end-boss have half the chance to drop that non-weapons do.

Most of the sites that report kills and loot precentages show that weapons are around 5 to 10%.

Come to think of it, Nil got a weapon, DnT got 2 weapons...what did Risen get agian? Suspiciously high rate on weapons...but then again it could of just been luck and it is only 3 kills so far. Indeed we will have to wait for a few hundred kills for things to even out.

Kasi · 09/10/06, 7:31 PM

Risen got Kingsfall and Doomfinger.

DeeNogger · 09/10/06, 7:50 PM

a lot of people are siting the time spent on 4H as a reason for them being so difficult. I dont think this is a logical indicator of difficulty of a fight, and allow me to whip up a nice metaphor to illustrate:

Lets say your running a marathon, your 24th mile (2 miles away from the finish) could be your longest(slowest) mile. your 25th and 26th mile you run the fastest, because the light at the end of the tunnel is driving you to push yourself harder and harder than you could ever have done on your previous miles. Yet there is no question, that the last mile is the hardest, most agonizing mile you will have ever run. So do you say 'the 24th mile was the hardest, because it took me the longest to complete?' hell no.

take that with a grain of salt as i have never done naxx, but have ran a marathon before.

Kasi · 09/10/06, 8:06 PM

From all I've read it seems two things might explain the 4h being a longer block, even though KT is harder.

1. Gear prereqs with people needing 4 piece dreadnought.
2. Taunt mechanics making it a luck based fight. If your execution is perfect but your taunts fail than you're screwed. While with KT from what Nihilum said the execution was harder but the fight wasn't so luck based.

Kaubel · 09/10/06, 8:12 PM

Originally Posted by DeeNogger

alot of people are siteing the time spent on 4H as a reason for them being so difficult. I dont think this is a logical indicator of difficulty of a fight, and allow me to whip up a nice medaphor to illustrate:

Lets say your running a marathon, your 24th mile (2 miles away from the finish) could be your longest(slowest) mile. your 25th and 26th mile you run the fastest, because the light at the end of the tunnel is driving you to push yourself harder and harder than you could ever have done on your previous miles. Yet there is no question, that the last mile is the hardest, most aggonizeing mile you will have ever run. So do you say 'the 24th mile was the hardest, because it took me the longest to complete?' hell no.

take that with a grain of salt as i have never done naxx, but have ran a marathon before.

Get Google (toolbar) spell checker. Now.

DeeNogger · 09/10/06, 8:28 PM

Originally Posted by Kaubel

Get Google (toolbar) spell checker. Now.

post fixed. spell checker downloaded.

Kaubel · 09/10/06, 8:52 PM

You're going to love it. I know I do!

Malan · 09/10/06, 8:53 PM

Edit - nvm, wowwiki for all your legendary quest line needs.

Rz · 09/10/06, 8:56 PM

It's just an item you summon to defeat the demon. The item can't leave Stratholme.

DeeNogger · 09/10/06, 9:11 PM

Originally Posted by Kaubel

You're going to love it. I know I do!

I'm terrible at spelling. I always come off as a retarded 12 year old, so yea, this will definitely be nice. now if only there was a google download that would follow me around and stop me from making an ass of myself at parties...