I'm sorry if this has been recently posted, I checked the past few pages and saw nothing along this line, but anyways..

When do you think a guild should start working on Naxx? After killing Huhu? Twin Emps? C'thun? Oruo? Something less?

I ask because my guild has made some pretty rapid progress through TAQ (we're at huhu right now, just waiting for the last few people to finish up their NR, the first few serious attempts should be tonight/tomorrow). I was wondering when we can start working on Naxx. While I realise we don't have anywhere near the needed tanking gear for Patchwerk (we have TERRIBLE luck with Wrath/Might), there are a few other bosses that we could hypothetically kill (Say we clear spider/raz/noth/heigan) that would help us gear up tanks for Patchwerk (and healers/DPS).

I ask because I know there are quite a few people from Naxx guilds that could probably be helpful with this issue.

Well, GL with killing all those bosses if you're on Huhu. Power to you if you can.

There's no reason not to at least farm trash in naxx, and get a taste for the wings by completing the EoW questline. My guild, before it blew up, was on Emps and was only able to kill razuvius - so we never really got a chance at spider wing beyond anub, which it seems most guilds are having the best initial success.

My only recommendation is if you're not killing Emps/C'thun/Ouro, stick to a primary focus on AQ for a while till you get those guys down. Naxx can be a guild killer if you're used to plowing content and then hit the brick wall that some of those bosses can be. Not saying yours will, but it's happened to many many guilds and an even greater number of players.

Go into Naxx and kill Raz/Anub -- those are the 2 easy fights to put on farm and can start getting your guys into some T3. Don't bother trying to push further (although Faerlina isn't much harder) until you get Twin Emps down at the minimum. You don't really want to split your guild focus up too much.

While the server that I play on has been released around the 15th of June, my guild has killed Noth, Anub, Faerlina and Razuvious. AQ isn't even open yet, so if your guild is dedicated and experienced, you can make some good progress in Naxxramas, even if you haven't killed many bosses in TAQ.

The bosses were fairly hypothetical. I'd be pretty surprised if we down that much, but yeah, we're gonna focus on AQ for sure. I was just out there for suggestions, and thanks for the tips.

Just thought I'd mention, you'll probably need fairly decent gear on your MT for Maexxna, so don't put that on your "To-Do" list until after Twin Emps.

haha I figured. Our MT is 7/8 wrath (just missing the damn shoulders)/Elementium Bulwark/Spineshatter, so he's got a little bit to go. Rest of our tanks are a mix of might/wrath.

However, there is a big intrest to do Naxx from our guild, so we might give raz/anub a try or two soon.

I definitely think Razu could be done by a guild directly out of BWL, at least if you have the players who are willing to focus and do their jobs. With two good priests (with the right gear of course) you don't really need too great of dps or too great of healing or too great of tanking, you just need the mind controls to not break.

Admittedly though, if the fight drags on you'll start to lose dps to general mistakes, and more time = more chances for the MC to break early and your raid gets screwed. But overall I think its entirely doable.


I think Anub is a bit harder though, simply because you have to have a tank and hunter pair who can work well together, and then on top of that your guild needs to have enough HP to take a random impale and not just instantly die. A lot of players seem to have trouble standing outside the range of it, so if they can have like 4k hp + that would be cool.

Well, we killed Huhu for the first time about 3 weeks ago, and are about to get our first real attempts on the Emps on Tuesday after some slow clears and limited raid days. For one I can't understand why people get stuck at Huhu. Yes you need good NR, but with craftable gear I see little reason for people to be lacking the NR gear for weeks at a time.

We're thinking of stepping into Naxx to create a little variety, but in general I think you have to have a single instance as your core focus at a time.

I think this guy got the answers he needed.

Good job guys.

One thing I'd say is that I don't think Anub is a dps fight really. Or rather, it is, but the gear check is well below where you should be at Huhu. If you're alliance especially BoK will bring most everyone over the magical 4k you should look for on cloth.

Oh, and Anub is very very sustainable. Definately a fight you can spend some time on.

Yes Anub'Rekhan and Razuvious should both be very doable, and means you can get people started on 2 piece bonuses of tier 3. I'd say it's worth farming them as quick as you can. They're also more in style of earlier raid instances that it's largely reliant on a few people performing well, as opposed to the majority of your raid doing so.

The gargoyles in the plague wing are also a good way of training the whole 'chilling on DPS and nuking after a certain mark' thing.

We killed both Anub and Raz (in fact several times) before we killed Twin Emps. If you're at Twin Emps level in AQ it's completely feasible to down Raz, Anub, Noth, maybe even Faerlina. And their loot blows everything out of the water, so why not spend some time in Naxx?

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We've aiming for killing Maexxna and Noth now, and we havent killed twin emps yet. It's all about the fecking tank drops which refuse to drop us. Naxx, AQ40 and BWL. We have only 1 well geared warrior. Tho I think he will be able to take hit from Maexxna also. Twin emps will have it's time when we've stuck on patchwerk. ;)