saramin

Thought this deserved a new thread, since the front page is about to get spammed anyway. Enjoy, kids.

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/un...t/talents.html
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/un...ells.html#none

 

Adalys

Beat me to it.

 

Vhex

Discipline for the win? +5% raid spell damage, +10% of spirit in damage (only like 30-40 tops for mages, but meh). Shield Wall ripoff on a 3 minute cooldown. Will definately be a rape pvp healer tree. 50% of PW:S reflected back at your opponant, wee! Will be funny for fights like Vael where you shield everyone right before you engage. Nothing like doing 20k dmg pretty much right off the bat.

Surge of light is interesting and I'm glad they finally introduced it. I remember the 30+ page petition we had for something like that back in beta. <3 Rest of Holy is pretty damn lackluster, but that's been true since forever. 8(

Shadow Mend however, will be sick. Sick I tell you. Shadow priests = unkillable. +15% chance for mind blast to crit? Jesus.

 

◊ Praetorian

Also note that you can get the same +5% raid spell damage effect from Improved Shadow Weaving. But you can't get both that and the Disc talent on the same priest.

As with many other classes, if you want to min/max, you'd seemingly want one shadowmage, one heavy disc priest, and one holy priest filling your 3 priest slots in a 25-man raid.

 

Steelfleece

Don't forget http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/un...st/spells.html for new spells too.

affect –verb (used with object) 1. to act on; produce an effect or change in
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Know the difference.

 

Falcon24

Prayer of Mending looks sweet.

 

Kasonic

So far Blizzard is spot fucking on with the 'every raid wants every spec' idea they're going for. Your Shadow Weaving bot can spot heal, Disc priests are invincible with technically two raid buffs, and Holy gets completely free bonus DPS.

 

Fres

Please to be copy/paste whatever you can, can't view at work.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5391/loljs6.png

 

Keldor

Any chance someone can transcribe the talents/spells into the thread for those of us at work that are blocked by big brother?

 

impossible!

Fres, here are the spells from the preview page:

Really kind of envious that I no longer play my priest, and that I did not opt to play as a priest /again/ for my current situation. :(

edit: I just realized that the Imp. Divine Spirit talent is broken. 1/2 grants +5% of spirit as dmg/healing, but 2/2 is "undefined." I wonder if it's safe to assume +10%.

 

silversum

Discipline

Tier 3:

Absolution - 3 ranks
Reduces the mana cost of your Dispel Magic, Cure Disease, Abolish Disease and Mass Dispel spells by 5/10/15%

Tier 5:

Improved Divine Spirit - 2 ranks
Requires 1 point in Divine Spirit

Your Divine Spirit and Prayer of Spirit spells also increase the target's spell damage and healing by an amount equal to 5/10% of their total Spirit.

Tier 6:

Focused Power - 2 ranks
Your Smite and Mind Blast spells have an additional 2/4% to hit and cause 5/10% additional damage against dazed targets.

Tier 7:

Reflective Shield - 5 ranks
Causes 10/20/30/40/50% of the damage absorbed by your Power Word: Shield to reflect back at the caster. This damage causes no threat.

Tier 8:

Misery - 5 ranks
Your damage over time spells also cause the target to take an additional 1/2/3/4/5% spell damage.

Tier 9:

Pain Supression - 1 rank
154 mana
Instant cast, 3 minute cooldown.
Reduces all damage taken by 60% for 8 seconds.

Holy

Tier 6:

Blessed Resilience - 3 Ranks
Critical hits made against you have a 20%/40/60% chance to reduce the chance you'll be critically hit by 100% for 6 seconds.

Tier 7: Surge of Light - 5 ranks
Your spell criticals have a 5/10/15/20/25% chance to cause your next Smite spell to be instant cast, cost no mana but be incapable of a critical hit. This effect lasts 10 seconds.

Tier 8:
Empowered Healing - 5 ranks
Your Greater Heal spell gains an additional 2/4/6/8/10% and your Flash Heals gain an additional 1/2/3/4/5% of your bonus healing effects.

Tier 9:
Circle of Renewal - 1 rank
700 mana
1.5 Second cast, 40yd range
Heals target party member and other party members within 15 yards of the target for 1445 over 15 seconds.

Shadow:

Tier 5:
Improved Shadow Weaving - 1 rank
Requires 5 points in Shadow Weaving
Your Shadow Weaving effect also increases all non-shadow spell damage by an additional 1% per application

Tier 6:
Shadow Resilience - 2 ranks
Reduces the chance you'll be critically hit by all spells by 2/4%

Tier 7:
Focused Mind - 5 ranks
Reduces the mana cost of your Mind Blast, Mind Control and Mind Flay spells by 3/6/9/12/15%

Tier 8:
Shadow Power - 5 ranks
Increases the critical strike chance of your Mind Blast and Shadow Word: Death spells by 3/6/9/12/15%

Tier 9:
Shadow Mend
Requires 1 point in Shadowform

285 mana
1.5 second cast, 40yd range
Heals the friendly target for 525

rank 2 - 340 mana, 675 healing
rank 3 - 360 mana, 750 healing
rank 4 - 425 mana, 900 healing

 

Vhex

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/un...00000000000000

Will probably be the optimal healer spec, unless TBC forces you to uprank on heals, but I highly doubt that's going to happen.

The spells are kinda neat though. Mass dispell will be intresting. Prayer of Mending = Chain Heal on acid. Not too excited about Shades of Darkness though. Shadow Word: Death will be nice however. What I want to know is though, if you use SW:D and have the PW:S reflect ability...will you do 50% additional damage? Oh the mechanics boggle the mind!

 

Rane

From just the quick overview, that looks like some damn nice Priest improvements. My female BE priest alt is set in stone now :)

 

LadyVex

Really underwhelmed with these talents.

I'm the last of the wannabe best healer in game I think; the survivability talents in disc are nice, but where are my awesome unique heal talents? Wait, wait...I get a chance to cast smite for free that is incapable of critting.

Yay?

I still don't think they get it yet. But grats to shadow priests for getting heals, mana reduction on their mindflay and 15% chance to crit a mindblast.

Afk crying in a corner for a bit. Nudge me when the talents get good.

 

Fres

Looks pretty swell, thanks for the repost.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5391/loljs6.png

 

heel

Sort of disappointed with the Holy tree . . . not much new there in the way of pure healing power. And Lightwell is still there =(. I guess with 61 talent points you might as well get it, though. This will probably be my build post-expansion, assuming I don't decide to just drop my priest for a paladin: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/un...00000000000000

 

Igni

Here's Shadow:

Shadow

Tier 9

Shadow Mend
285 Mana
1.5s cast
Heal the friendly target for 525.
40 yd range.

Trainable Ranks listed Below:
Rank 2: 340 Mana, 675 Healing
Rank 3: 360 Mana, 750 Healing
Rank 4: 425 Mana, 900 Healing


Tier 8

Shadow Power, 5 ranks
Increases the critical strike chance of your Mind Blast and Shadow Word: Death spells by 3/6/9/12/15%


Tier 7

Focused Mind, 5 ranks
Reduces the mana cost of your Mind Blast, Mind Control and Mind Flay spells by 3/6/9/12/15%.


Tier 6

Shadow Resilience, 2 ranks
Reduces the chance you'll be critically hit by all spells by 2/4%

Tier 5

Improved Shadow Weaving, 1 rank
Your Shadow Weaving effect also increases all non-shadow damage by an additional 1% per application.

Ignie Ferroque translates from latin to "with fire & with sword." It is a stock phrase used to describe the results of a destructive raid into an enemy's territory, whose sole purpose is to generate fear, terror, and destruction.

 

◊ Praetorian

Holy priests get an AoE renew that likely offers the best hp/mana ratio of any heal in the game by a large margin once you take +healing contribution into account.

 

• frmorrison

All 3 trees have nice stuff in them, kudos to Blizzard.
Shades of Darkness, more pets!

Surge of Light looks great for Priest grinding, and holy is still the best healing tree.
Shadowform has a heal and a nice raid debuff!
Disc is great for PvP and has some fun tricks in it for raiding too.

I wonder if Misery and Imp Shadow Weaving stack, I like 41/20 spec atm, it has a good balance of healing and damage in it.

DK - Ashbane Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor.

 

Bibdy

Okay guys...

Prayer of mending the whole raid.

There's always free cheese in the mouse traps, but the mice there ain't happy.

 

dopefish

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/un...00000000000000

as long as a disc priest is in the raid.

 

◊ Praetorian

 

crimsonsentinel

As a raid healer, I have to say the holy talents are very disappointing. Aside from empowered healing (which, considering the empowered everything else, is kind of a given), there aren't anything else that helps me HEAL. I honestly don't want to be brought onto a raid for some gimmicky mass dispell (which is ridiculously mana inefficient) or a 5% buff for the mages. Not doing anything to lightwell, and adding prayer of renew makes me very very very angry (although at least you can target the new prayer even if it is crippled by its massively short range). Also, linked flash heal is very very gimmicky (even for PVP). Under what PVE circumstances would I have to heal both myself and a target? I see that the dpshappy priests got their toys, but us healers are left with little to nothing.

I am still hopeful, though, considering that its still alpha.

 

impossible!

Question: Thoughts on the behavior of Prayer of Mending when there are no other nearby raid members? Five charge buff for a single target to heal for 5K? Or, wasted buff if there is no new target to be jumped to?

I don't know, dude. An additional +10%/5% healing to Greater Heal/Flash Heal, two completely new and unique healing abilities, a third completely new and unique obtainable-through-talents healing ability and increased survivability right within the Holy tree. Personally, if I still played my priest still, I'd be doing jumping jacks of joy and jubulation.

Healing was already an absolute ball in both PvE and PvP (to me), and the new spells and talents you guys are being given are going to make your options and potential strategies in a group environment just absolutely explode with awesomeness.

edit: The potential efficieny of Circle of Renewal is absolutely disgusting, BTW!

 

◊ Praetorian

The shadow tree is pretty incredible overall. It makes it hard to find even 14 points to get Meditation.

For PvE purposes, my first take at a healbot and a shadowmage:

Healbot:

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/un...00000000000000

Shadowmage:

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/un...10351121051251

Of course both of these assume you have someone in the raid with 25+ Discipline.