Does anyone else see Mass Dispel as an attempt at killing Decursive and other similar mods? I don't think there's any way to auto-target area effect markers.

Slight derail...

But are druids (maybe) and pallies the only ones without pets now?

Edit: < Insert Pokemon PvP joke here>

Depends on whether or not it's castable outside of your party (screw Blizzard and their vague wording on priest abiltiies). And even if it is, I feel sorry for the poor bastard that has to spec that deep into Holy to get it. More like Circle of Overheal, amirite? It might be nice for putting on rogues who have to sit in range of AE's though. And remember that AE spells only get 11% of your +heal.

The 'nifty unique' priest heal is going to be prayer of mending. I can think of so many uses for that spell already it isn't even funny.

JUST as I saw this post, I looked at the wording of the spell and concluded this as well :p

But that is one talent and will probably require me to get lightwell. I like the idea of being rather unkillable as a disc priest but I dunno. I guess I expected something more? Maybe I expect too much as a general rule :P

And I think playing an EQ cleric spoiled the hell out of me heh.

Edit: Same Vhex, I like the spells, but the talents make me about as excited as I figured they would. A group renew or AE renew was what I wanted for sooo long. I happily recall the days of MGB Celestial Renewal in a raid group.

So, priests just got ALOT more interesting in both PVP and PVE. I agree with previous posters that blizz is really pushing for multi-spec classes in each raid. This makes a Disc + Shadow + Holy priest combo viable in 25 man content, as stated earlier. But can I just say WOW WTF in regards to an AE dispell. We'll have to wait to see the actual 'in game' implementation, but on paper it certainly looks unreal for both PVP and PVE (to a slightly lesser extent imo, but still).

Also, Blizzard, is really reiterating what they had said previously about the priest trees. Disc = Survivability (lots of that now in disc tree), Holy = Healbot and Shadow = Good dmg output (just got alot better + they can heal? roflskates!!)

Now just release Druid and Hunter talents and let's see what we can build with 25 people!

He took flight, but was shot down just as suddenly.

Keep your warlocks grouped up at all times ;)

Saving theorycraft post for later once we see the druid and hunter trees

Druids get Treants. Warriors don't get any sort of pet.

Isn't Prayer of Mending pretty good if somewhat unpredictable? Especially if the spell just sits there forever until the next time you take damage. It's like proactive healing.

I'm pretty unimpressed with the Shadow healing. I'm not a number cruncher, but .5 mana for every point of healing does not strike me as the most efficient way to get people some health.

That being said, I'm not complaining. Shadow Power and Focused Mind are both incredible.

Did you want the following spell?

Summon Blue
1045 Mana, Instant cast (Channeled, duration: 2 hours)
7 Day cooldown
Summons a Blizzard employee to apologise for not meeting your expectations.

I'm hoping that Prayer of Healing also gets changed to target party member, so a priest can do their effecient AE heals without being in the MT group.

As for the Holy tree, it still lacks that "Wow, I want to heal" talent and a great mana-regen talent. Lightwell should get replaced by a "Next spell's mana cost is reduced by 100% whenever you Inspire a target" or some other such variation of Clearcasting. Free Smites are nice and all, but I suspect that someone with that much invested in Holy won't have the greatest in +dmg gear.

Could you cast this on your tank and increase the damage they do? Reflect back 500 damage to the mob every 15 seconds assuming improved power world shield?

Those are spells, not talents :P

The spells I really have no problem with; they are pretty darn nice. As Vhex mentioned Prayer of Mending has just sooo many issues it's not funny. If the heal consistently hits after said target takes damage, and every priest casts it on someone...mexican jumping healing over the entire raid, wtg!

And Vhex, the wording of the circle of renewal is target party member and party members within 15 yards. Very small range but looks to have no cooldown, so add another spell to the arsenal, one I fully endorse. But gaw, the thought of getting lightwell makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit. :P

Nor rogues.

Which would be a bit odd, really. And immensely pointless. Unless the pet could stealth as well...

Huh? Unless they ninja changed talent trees just now, you can have both Misery and Imp Shadow Weaving, as Misery is 40 points maxed and Imp SW is 21 point.

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/un...10050001000000

I love prayer of mending, even though it has horrible mana efficiency (especially when you consider it to the likes of something like swiftmend which is more scalable and almost as fast)

Circle of renewal is not the amazing talent that everyone makes it seem. Even though its a cast HOT, I still don't see each member getting full +heal simply because of its AOE nature. Plus, the 15 yard range is very constricting. It's useful for melee groups in aoe heavy fights, and that's about it. And even then, its very slow HPS (note it takes 15 seconds versus 12 for renew). 500 hp/3 seconds isn't too overwhelming especially if you consider the decreased ivalue of stam in TBC.

Personally, I would've like to see more self/group buffs that focused on healing in the holy tree.

Although I must say that shadow priests got some major loving with these skills and talents.

Yes, I'm dumb. Still thinking in terms of 51 points. :P Interesting.

Completely agree with everything said here.

I don't think it's too much to ask for talents I look forward to. As it stands now it's more an eenie, meanie, meinie, mo way of picking talents. /shrug

Sure, although it behooves me to say that this spell wouldn't be half as needed if it seemed like Blizzard paid any attention to what raiding priests are looking for these days. ^^

It's almost wholly a pvp spell and since when has mana efficiency been a terribly big issue here? It's a flash heal you don't have to drop shadow form to cast. Depending on how much +shadow vs. +dmg/heal you have, it'll heal between 1k and 1100 anyways, which is pretty damn badass.

Drop a prayer of mending on yourself, hit shadow form, PW:S up...you'll be a monster. <3

Reflective shield seems a bit imbalanced in a pvp sense. I mean, it's hard enough to break thru the shield, but trying to break thru while you dmg yourself is overkill. Imagine a mage nuking a priest for 1k. You just dmged him for around 50 while you hit yourself for 500. That just sucks :\.

I think the greatest problem with one class of each spec in a 25-man raid is that there are 9 classes.