When I first started playing the game, I rolled alliance warlock and loved every minute of it. Even though I played my warlock at a time when they were considered a very gimp class, I still loved the multi-tasking involved with controlling several mobs at the same time. However, I decided to re-roll horde and now have a 60 warrior. Don't get me wrong, I love my warrior, I am fury spec and am usually number 1 on the charts in mc/bwl/aq...however I have a feeling that in the expansion dps warriors won't be needed as much as they are now. So for the expansion I have decided I will make a horde warlock. My question is, should I start making an undead now...will of the forsaken is amazing...or should I wait for the epansion and roll blood elf.

I like the look of blood elf's (flame away :P) but more importantly I am a fan of their racials. The whole mana tap and AoE silence seems amazing. In the expansion, I can see myself raiding, but also putting a big focus on arena pvp. Do you think I would benefit more from the blood elf racials...or should I stop waiting and start leveling undead. Again I haven't played a warlock in months, and only leveled one to 43, so keep in mind I do not have a huge ammount of expeirence on what warlocks encounter alot. Any input is welcome!

IMO the 41st destruction talent + aoe silence could be pretty fun.

Personally I'd wait to roll a BE if you're even considering it. I get pretty bored doing the same starting area/quests over and over and over again, and the new classes present brand new lowbie areas for a new gaming experience.

The only flip side to that is you're not going to be able to grind the character up *as* fast. I'd imagine once you hit the levels for SM/ZF/BRD (the grind instances) you'd probably go back to those just for the good exp/quest exp.

I'm debating what class I want to play as well, choices being: rogue, warlock, warrior.

DPS Warriors will not be needed as much as they are now? Have you seen the raid utilty out of deep Arms (5% more melee dps and you can get 4 weapon skill)? Not to mention MS, which may help on new encounters, especially useful in the Arena.
Certainly a group doesn't want lots of dps warriors, but if you are good at it I would want one around.

Blood Elves seem to have a spell torrent ability that silences, that seems better than WotF.

Warlocks seem to be quite powerful with lots of debuff slots plus new talents, but there are a few threads on that already if you want to know more.

I'm pre-leveling my new expac character right now, undead. 1-20 takes about 15 hours total, and then you're going to be in the same zones as any other race. I wouldn't let the starting zones put you off of whatever race you want.

That said I think undead are still a better overall race in almost all situations than blood elves, aside from looks. Blood elves are hawt.

The Blood Elf AOE silence thingy is an absolute godsend for Warlocks, no joke. The class as a whole lacks any kind of interrupt ability (without the Felhunter out). You can try using Death Coil to interrupt them, but its a slow projectile, so it usually lands too late. Of course it won't rule out the Felhunter entirely. I use it in BGs all the time because Spell Lock is flaming fantastic, admittedly because the Felhunter uses a seperate global cooldown to myself and then there's Devour Magic which makes me basically un-crowd-controllable (devouring a Polymorph the moment it lands on you feels good).

But, a Blood Elf Warlock with the PvP trinket (which, for us, is basically the same as WOTF on a 5 minute cooldown) and a Succubus out is going to be...pretty nasty.

I still love my Orc, though.

Obviously I'm biased, but the 25%+ stun resistance (Which is huge versus rogues and warriors, which are the hardest classes to fight against as a warlock) and the 5% pet dps, I feel, are much better racials than WoTF.


WoTF is nice, but it's more of an anti-warlock ability, something for rogues and warriors to pop while laying the hurt down on a warlock, if you're feared "as" a warlock, you can still control your pet, to seduce the person that feared you (if you didn't dot him, so you're likely using a succubus). Otherwise, if you're using a felhunter the person that feared you is likely dotted up anyways, still taking decent damage from you, and it's easy enough to spell-lock him while you're feared, preventing your enemy from taking advantage of your vulnerable state.

The BE racials are nice, but I don't think anymore powerful than the Orc Racials, I just don't see the need for even more abilities that you need to press (and use the global cooldown) to help in the rape-casters department.

Warlocks as a whole generally have enough utility via pet and spell selection that racials don't make a huge difference. The BE racials do sound very nice, but since when do warlocks need more help killing other casters? If a warlock gets beat by a mage or priest with equivalent gear, it's usually because the warlock doesn't know how to play. (Although a huge POM Pyro, double ice block, or a dwarf shadow priest can sometimes get lucky and win).

Having both Deathcoil and Shadowfury will make warlocks even more of a 1v1 powerhouse in the expansion, although 90% resistant rogues and spell reflecting warriors will cause problems. It's still just theorycrafting though, until the whole arena format has been announced.

In the end, it comes down to preferance. Race choices are supposed to be about your personality, not the racials. Racial abilities are just perks, especially for warlocks. You're picking a great class, race doesn't make a big difference.

They need to make Blood Fury affect spell damage.

Sigh...