This seems to come up in our guild pretty often and I'm curious to see how many people click and what the general opinion is on clickers; people that move around with WASD or the arrows and use their mouse to click all of their abilities with the rare few bound.

I personally have virtually everything bound and use the mouse for changing directions and playing with the camera. I'd feel extremely handicapped if I had to turn with the keyboard and point/click on all of my abilities.

This thought occured to me when I was reading the are we all elitist jerks thread where a few people mentioned that most people can be taught skill but not attitude. I think this is one of the biggest limitations on someone's ability to perform in raids and I don't think its something that can really be improved on. Most people that I've talked to about it say they love it and don't feel handicapped at all, therefore refuse to even attempt change.

I guess I am one of the clickers. I do use keybinds, but I often don't use them. The only time that it really hurts me is when I get launched airborne and I'm trying to intercept. I should make a macro for that to switch to berserker and intercept. Likely would be good to make one for berserker rage as well. I sometimes mouse turn, but generally use the keys. I've never had problem holding agro on stuff when tanking though or moving in position to do dps and such.

I move with WASD. Having never played a PC FPS heavily, I don't find the default A-D behavior at all disconcerting.

I do, however, use entirely the keyboard for abilities. I don't even display my action bars onscreen.

Using your mouse for abilities severely hurts your movement. Sure for slacker in PvE classes like hunters, mages and warlocks it's probably doable for most of the fight.

But as MT (or even DPS warrior), using your mouse is simply not viable, not in PvE nor in PvP. Personally I got everything keybinded and I still can't find any reason whatsover to use my mouse for anything but movement (and general UI operations ofcourse)

I couldn't image clicking on everything, especially in PvP. It seems counterintuitive. If you turn with the keyboard, you should be taken out and executed. Period.

I bind pretty much everything. Two hotbars to 1-= and Ctrl+1-=, my trinkets/racials/consumables to Shift+A-G. I think it's a rarity during any kind of combat for me to not be holding right click. The only thing I don't have bound anymore is my gems, since Cryolysis has a nice dynamic button for them. I do click several abilities that either have rare uses or are just unwieldy to press(Ctrl+0? er..), like Cold Snap, Wand, or Wards.

I remember another thread where the point was raised about the accessability of WoW and how it has lots of players that don't meet the 'gamer' stereotype. In general, I think you'd expect most gamers to:
1. Be able to orient themselves in a 3d virtual environment
2. Hit a key on the keyboard without looking at it
3. React 'quickly' (<1.0 sec?) to an event in-game

These aren't skills that are needed to level to 60 in WoW, but they are abilities that experience gamers will assume are possessed by everyone they meet in the game. Can people be de-noobified? I'll have to leave the anecdotes on that topic to others, since almost everyone I socialize with already meets those standards.

send a tell to yassy for tips on keyboard turning lmao

Watching PvP movies of clickers drives me nuts. The constant moving of the cursor is a huge eye-catcher. I'd rather watch you flipping your camera around all over the place as you watch your surroundings while killing some guy than watch you struggle with manouvering your character. Clicking hinders manouverability...a LOT. There are things I can do with my character (and almost perpetual holding down of the right mouse button) that a clicker couldn't even dream about. My favourite PvP movies are of the guy dancing around the environment as he 'pwns some noob-ass bitches'.

It's not really something that comes up too often. Personally I would have a horrible time trying to play just by clicking, hotkeys just seem more likely to "stick" and not be delayed by the global cooldown. I'm also less likely to click mocking blow when I'm going for overpower now that I've bound overpower (and shield block, and berserking) to ctrl-Q

it's also a huge bump to reaction time. if I'm low on health I can mash mouse4 a lot faster than I can scroll down and carefully click a healing pot and hope I don't accidentally hit the free action pot next to it

I hate to sound like a pro-gamer retard or anything, but the difference between a clicker and a guy using his keyboard is night and day. After seeing the light of keybindings, I honestly don't think I could play clicking again.

This game has 7 million+ players, I am know there are many clickers around.
It is certainly fastest to bind your keys, but if you don't PvP much you can get away with clicking imo.

I think healers might be an exception to the attitude that keybinds are often better than clicking. I find it much easier to use a click-cast mod, so I can left-click a player's unit frame to heal them, right-click to shield them, and so on. As opposed to, have a keybind for every party/raid member, and another keybind for every heal spell I use.

In PvP it is more of a mix, but I still use unit-frame-clicking to heal pretty often.

I hotkey most of my combat abilities, but anything like Soulstones/Find Treasure and crap I click. It works pretty well honestly.

Besides, hotkeying every single Warlock ability is a nightmare (while for a Rogue its pretty easy!).

I use my hotkeys and click. I find it difficult to push any keys past six entirely with my left hand simply because of the way my keyboard is designed. So, abilities I use less are bound to the hotkeys 7 and up and I will click them if I am using my mouse to move around. I also have my shifts bound to my numpad and travel form bound to my mouse scroll wheel click function (which is the greatest keybinding of all time).

As far as turning with my mouse goes, I'm not very good at it. I'm getting better, but it's annoying to do. I generally stick to my WASD keys for movement and it has yet to hinder me.

wow, now i feel like a noob :-)

i click everything. i've been thinking of trying out some keybindings, but i'm scared of the transition!

Unless you are a very fast clicker, keybinds will always be more efficient.

Usually "clickers" are picked on by "binders". Because truth be told, most people who "click" are gaming newbies. If you have been part of the gaming culture for more than half your life, the first thing you do when you install a new game is bind your keys - its natural. Clickers on the other hand conjure images of an old person fumbling his/her way thru a clicking interface. Ofcourse, I am being a stereotypical ego-maniac, but thats what this discussion of Clickers VS Binders boils down to.

Personally if someone told me he was a clicker, I would be slightly more skeptical of his skills. Its one of those subtle criteria you can use initially to filter players. Ofcourse, once a guy has proven his worth the whole debate of clicking vs binding becomes irrelevant.

It depends on what I'm doing. I have nearly everything hotkeyed, I use the mouse to move (during combat), but I also have my action bars set up in such a manner that I can get to multiple buttons within a global cooldown and my movement isn't really hampered. My main reason for not clicking is that when my framerate takes a dive, I can rely on keypresses more than I ever could on clicks. It took a while for me to stop being a die-hard clicker, but when I looked over and saw my girlfriend playing with her keyboard, I knew it was time ;)

I use my hotkeys on almost everything but it seems pretty useless for me as a rogue. Works out for the better to use hotkeys in PvP but in PvE most of the time I have to wait 4 seconds inbetween using a skill it isn't that big a deal.

Most people criticizing clickers in movies probably do that shit themselves but just like calling out "noobery".

http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.p...ic,1609.0.html

Hot addon to make clicking efficient.

I am a mixture of hotkeyer/clicker.

My Hunter has all the essential ranged/melee attack buttons keybound, but there are simply too many abilities to keybind them all so Aspects/Traps/Consumables are clicked (Cheetah is mouse activated). Activated trinkets are FD switched thru TrinketMenu and clicked for use. I move with a mixture of wasd, and double mouse buttons for jump shooting. The mouse is obviously faster, but often times it is best utilized for target aquisition/camera turning, while using the keypad to orient your character.

My priest has almost all the essential abilities hotkeyed and paged. I couldnt imagine trying to click each rank of heal before using it. As a healer, your mouse is pretty much relegated to selecting your heal target off of your UI or from the field of view (PvP). Unless you are just spam healing one MT, in which case you can just sit back and spam key bindings.

I find that pure clickers are extremely inefficient, and pure hotkeyers can suffer from inefficient hotkeying. But hey, find what works for you and go with it.

Edit: Its interesting to watch peoples reaction to user mechanics like these. I am often amazed at how horrified some are when they find that I play with a trackball. But after 5 years of using one, you get to a point that it is just as good, if not better for some things. Its just foreign to some people, which makes them judgemental. =)

This kind of sums up the difference for me. I've never played FPS's of any sort, and WoW is really the first game where speed was an issue at all that I've played. (Can we say adventure gamer? God I miss the early 90s in that respect...) Therefore, I'm not really used to keybinds since clicking has always served me just fine (although as mentioned, I've bound some things). I imagine the difference is quite pronounced depending on the person's gaming background. The FPSers have a head start and us slower people are still catching up. :)

Wife and I both use them, 33 keys easily within WSAD makes for some primo pres butan spam. I kind of got mine as a joke but it's the best non-apple, non-Model-M keyboard I've used so I stuck with it.