Apologies for somewhat reviving an old and much beaten subject, but as we were working on Maexxna tonight, I found this on our penultimate attempt before we killed her (which prompted me to use another +def ring). I was under the impression, more than that in fact, I was completly convinced that with 440+ defence I couldn't mathmatically be crit by a normal (effective)63 Raid Boss. Apparently I can.




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I'm pretty sure the maths is correct, which would suggest that either the Anticipation's talent contribution is flawed, or possibly that some of my item buff auras are being removed under heavy buffs, like titan's used to. If so, perhaps Blizz need to prioritise their buff system still further. I can handle losing 100HP occasionally, it's annoying sure, but I can cope. Losing 10 Defence or so, quite clearly, I can't handle :P

Comments or suggestions? Should I really not have been a Pirate? :'(

Profile is in my sig and here is the Combat Log for the attempts and kill in case anyone wants the information or finds it useful.

Oh and grats epixplx on the wing :)

I always assumed there was a static base chance to be crit against.

Edit: Just looked it up-

From WoWWiki's Defense Page:

So.. I score a massivley miniscule probability of being crit at entirely the wrong time.. but haven't had a single shield drop in 9 months of farming BWL.. Neato :P

One of your ZG enchants got pushed off by all your buffs/HoTs.

Ahh of course, thanks.. That would explain the drop in block value and hp too of course. Seems obvious now, thanks Blizzard :o

Wait they just reversed the priorities of buffs vs. enchants? I thought that they were on two completely different systems.

Oh, thought that had gone in already.

edit: I like that guild's site.

I have yet to see Wowwiki be correct whenever it's been cited

one time i read on wowwiki that Lord_BEEF was a cool dude

Yes, you really should not have been a pirate :foreheadslap:

It would be really simple if mobs all had 5.6% crit @ 63, but this is an assumption after all based on weapon skill.

We were working on Maexxna last night and I parsed several hours worth of combat logs with WoW web stats. Our MT (over 440 defense) took 1 critical hit from Mexxna out of a total 613 melee attacks (.16%). We were dry running (flask only for consumables) so I very much doubt this was an enchant getting knocked off. Maexxna may have a higher offensive skill of course and her defense is certainly higher as all our melee was experiencing glancing blows 50% of the time rather than the normal 40% against a 315 defense.

I heard this some time ago from someone using titans.
the titans got pushed out of the buffs cause there were so many hidden "AURAS" which counted as buffs that it got pushed out.
if you got the parry from wrath, the wrath from wrath and all the other stuff like potions and such you get to the 32 (or was it 34?) bufflimit very quick. kind of sad but to get rid of this only use the really needed buffs for now :(

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rothar

Thank you :) I'll pass it on to our Web Monkies, one of the home links also points to a very old guild association too, but I guess they've been busy raiding :)

Titan's was prioritsed last patch to combat this, but the resolution to buff auras in total is yet to come, as previous posters have mentioned.

On the Buffs getting pushed off front, I've noticed a particular annoyance with GBoSalv. We typically salv wars and have the tanks click it off (a minor but persistent annoyance you hordies will grow to love in the xpac I think).

However when you're the MT and you're buffed to the hilt, I've noticed sometimes that Salv does not show on my buff list. As noted elsewhere on this board, the default UI only shows a limited list of the buffs active on you, which means you can't click it off. In fact many times the only indication I have that salv is on me comes from the buff notification SCT displays - and if I miss it, I have no visual indication that Salv is actually active other than I'll lose aggro when I know I shouldn't have.

We get our paladins to manually BoSac each MT because of this (clears salv), but it's a perpetual annoyance. Is there a simple small mod that will display *all* buffs cast on you and let you click them off?

(sorry for the derail)

What's the buff limit at the moment? 32? 48?

That charge in combat macro had a part that canceled a buff. Replace bloodrage icon with slavation one and press it before fights.

32 afaik.
16 are shown, and enchantments are using up slots as invisible buffs until patch 1.12.1 comes out.

@Whiteknight
You might want to take a look at this addon, it automatically removes BoS.
http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/searchwow-3302.html

Thanks Spoon, I'll check it out - maybe even add int/spirit buff removal to the mod while I'm at it...

Nice, sheeeya AI and DS :)

Dr. Gregory Gurgthock, MD.

Just get CHKB (CH KillBuff). You can set it to automatically click off any buffs you like. (Currently mine auto-removes Divine Spirit, AI, and Salvation.)