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Old 09/20/06, 10:06 AM   #1
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A host for the pictures: http://wow.rpgbeacon.com/news.php?ID=90
Another host: http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/415...7626234_rs.jpg

Resilience rating is anti-crit for melee/spells.
Resilience by itself is all schools of spells resist (not confirmed)

Weapons:
http://wow.rpgbeacon.com/news.php?ID=91
Has most of the major types and even has throwing weapons and some relics.

2H Sword 114 dps
348-523 damage, 3.8 speed
32 Strength
48 Stam
32 Crit Rating
33 resilience rating

Crossbow 79 dps, 3.4 speed
11 resilence
11 to hit
24 RAP

2H Staff 67.8 dps
48 Stam
32 to spell hit rating
32 to spell crit rating
33 to resilience rating
187 damage/healing

Class Armor Sets

Some comparisons for the melee classes for the stats just from items, every melee has base AP/crit:

Warriors have 92 crit rating, Enchance Shaman has 114 crit rating, Rogue has 79 crit rating, Ret Pally has 116 crit rating, the feral has 68 agility to get some crit. At level 70, it is thought that you need 20 rating for 1 to melee crit (it is 14 rating for 1 to crit at 60).

Warriors have 210 AP, Enhance Shaman has 170 AP, Rogue has 220 AP, Ret Pally has 250 AP, bear has 220 AP/Cat has 288 AP.

Warrior/Enchance Shaman/Rogue all have 117 resilience rating, Feral has 114, ret pally none (Priest has the most at 127)

All have tons of stam, with the warrior having the most of all classes and druids have the least.

Unique stuff:
Ret pally has 114 damage/healing, Enchance Shaman has 12 mp5, Rogue has 22 to hit rating, Feral has 248 healing, Mookin has around 60 mp5, all have special bonuses on their gloves, people with a mana bar have around 60 int.

Priest
2/5 35 to all resists (All classes get this bonus at 2/5)
4/5 Reduce the weaken soul effect on PW: Shield by 2 seconds
Leggings
Armor 63, 54 stam, 26 int
26 to defense rating
42 to damage/healing
Gloves increases duration of Fear by 1 second
If you add all 5 armor pieces plus set bonus, you get 127 resilience rating and 39 resilience


Mage
4/5 Reduce the cooldown on blink by 2 seconds
Gloves increases range fireblast by 5 yards.
122 resilience rating and 39 resilience

Warlock
4/5 Reduce castime on immolation by 0.2 sec
Gloves give 50% to not lose casting time when casting Fear
More stam than Mage set, less int. About the same spell damage

Rogue
4/5 Reduce the cooldown on Gouge by 1 second
The gloves were very interesting, it says it allows Deadly Throw to stop spell casting and silence that school for 3 seconds, so it is a ranged counterspell for Rogues.
One piece of armor had hit on it (it has 22 to hit rating).

Druid
On the melee set, normal melee stats, but had +200ish healing as well
4/5 15% increased movement speed while in travel form, cat or beat. Only works outside
On the Moonkin set, normal caster casts
4/5 Reduce the mana cost of Moonfire by 10% (it was in English for some reason)
Both gloves decrease the casting time of Cylone by .1 seconds

Shaman There were 2 sets for the Shaman (as well as the druid/pally)
Melee set The Earthshaker
Has str/stam/int/crit rating/defense rating and mana regen, fair melee set
The gloves: 486 armor
22 str/36 stam
24 to crit rating
18 to resilence
8% more damage on lighting shield
4/5 Reduce the cooldown on Stormstrike by 6 seconds
Caster set
Gloves 486 armor 36 stam/12 int
18 spell crit rating
18 resilence
Increase range of shock spells by 5 yards
28 damage/healing
4/5 Increases your chance by 2% to obtain a spell crit with your shock spells

Warrior set had lots of armor and stam, same old stuff like gloves giving reduce hamstring cost by 3, set bonus of reduce intercept cooldown by 5 seconds.

Pally
There were two pally sets, one for group healing, the other for playing warrior. Both pally gloves say increase the bonus damage of Judgment of Crusader by 20.
4/5 Reduce Hammer of Justice cooldown by 10 seconds.


Anyway, I like that the sets have lots of stamina, armor and defense rating, resits, interesting set bonuses and great damage stats, along with 7 sockets per set to customize to your whims.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:14 AM   #2
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Voleur is hunter, I am 90% sure.

I can't see any +agility at all though??

It seems like they will let you perform a high amount of PvP set customisation via the socketing system which I think is a very nice idea to stop off-spec people moaning.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:15 AM   #3
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Voleur = rogue in french :)
Horions = shocks.
Mage gloves = +5 yards to fireblast range

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Old 09/20/06, 10:16 AM   #4
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As a french, I'll provide some missing translation :

4/5 Reduce the cooldown on fate transfer (I assume this means spell) by 2 seconds
Reduces Blink cooldown.

Gloves increases range of milk of fire (fireblast?) by 5 yards.
Yes, that's Fireblast.

4/5 Increases your chance by 2% to obtain a critical blow with your "horions" (I assume this means nature spells)
Horion is the French for "Shock".

Edit : Beaten to it.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:22 AM   #5
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For some reason it always makes me smile when I see a Druid set bonus related to Moonfire... Sets seem quite nice though.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:24 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Dawme
Voleur = rogue in french :)
owned. Still no hunter goodness to get excited over then... :cry:

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Old 09/20/06, 10:26 AM   #7
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2H Staff 67.8 dps
48 Stam
32 to spell hit rating
32 to spell crit rating
33 to defense rating
187 damage/healing

Compared to Atiesh, Mage version:

Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian (Mage)
2H Staff 58.4dps
+31 Stamina
+32 Intellect
+24 Spirit
+2% spellhit (28hitrating)
150 dmg/healing
Equip: 30yeard Aura for 2% crit (28 critrating)
And the Use ability to teleport ppl to Karazhan.

Looks like the owners of orange epeens are getting a blow from the big nrefbat.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:28 AM   #8
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Aura > personal, of course. And I thought we'd established that most epics will get outdated sooner or later?

(Also, Suriner appears to be Gouge, giving the 4 piece rogue bonus to be the same as the current 4 piece FM set bonus.)

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Old 09/20/06, 10:32 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by zepi
2H Staff 67.8 dps
48 Stam
32 to spell hit rating
32 to spell crit rating
33 to defense rating
187 damage/healing

Compared to Atiesh, Mage version:

Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian (Mage)
2H Staff 58.4dps
+31 Stamina
+32 Intellect
+24 Spirit
+2% spellhit (28hitrating)
150 dmg/healing
Equip: 30yeard Aura for 2% crit (28 critrating)
And the Use ability to teleport ppl to Karazhan.

Looks like the owners of orange epeens are getting a blow from the big nrefbat.
Good luck winning an arena season, 5 months from now?

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Old 09/20/06, 10:33 AM   #10
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Well, I think there were no hunter items b/c Blizzard is still working on what they want to do with them. They know what they want out of the other classes, so they have sets.

Comparing Atiesh and the Arena Staff, you do have that spirit/int rating and the aura.

Are you sure the aura will turn into a rating, rather than remain at a 2 crit (so it scales with level?). If that is true, then Atiesh may be better if you need more crit rating to get a spell crit at level 70.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:38 AM   #11
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So resilience is defense rating?

Wouldn't the "+35 a la resilience" 2 set bonus be defense instead of resist all?

Just looking for clarification, I'm not french :)

Looks like two paladin sets as well. Both have equal stamina, int, armor, and +damage/healing at a glance. One has strength and melee crit, the other has additional defense and spell crit, assuming I read those correctly.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:42 AM   #12
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Wouldn't the "+35 a la resilience" 2 set bonus be defense instead of resist all?
The confusing part is that it's phrased differently in different places. We have "+x a la resilience" (Proper socketing bonus on chests) and "Score de resilience +x" (Proper socketing bonus on shoulders), and then there's "Equipe: Augmente de x le score da resilience".

You'd think it'd be the same description for socketing the proper colour gems in the proper colour slots at least.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:43 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by zepi
Looks like the owners of orange epeens are getting a blow from the big nrefbat.
In so far as their weapons will simply be on par with level 70 purples?

Ignie Ferroque translates from latin to "with fire & with sword." It is a stock phrase used to describe the results of a destructive raid into an enemy's territory, whose sole purpose is to generate fear, terror, and destruction.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:44 AM   #14
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Resilience seems to be the new BC stat reducing incoming attacks critical rate.
So, yes, more or less "defense rating" afaik.

The difference between "Augmente le score de résilience de x" & "+x a la résilience" is just wording, as we already have several wordings for shield block value.

Kalman, Suriner is indeed Gouge, the bonus beeing similar to FM 3 pieces bonus.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:44 AM   #15
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Anyone notice the cost of the items in the background of the screenshots?

There is a set of shoulders costing 1500 gold.

The stamina is also rather insane compared to what we have on gear (especially caster gear) now.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:45 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by frmorrison
Rogue
4/5 Reduce the cooldown on Gouge by 1 second
The gloves were interesting, it says it allows Mortal throw to stop spell casting and silence that school for 3 seconds (Mortal throw sounds like that throwing weapon attack)
Also, one piece of armor had hit on it (it has 22 to hit rating).
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Old 09/20/06, 10:46 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Kastagir
So resilience is defense rating?

Wouldn't the "+35 a la resilience" 2 set bonus be defense instead of resist all?

Looks like two paladin sets as well. Both have equal stamina, int, armor, and +damage/healing at a glance. One has strength and melee crit, the other has additional defense and spell crit, assuming I read those correctly.
I don't know French, but I know Spanish; they are similar languages.

Yes.

Not how I understand it. a la is "to all" and to all defense makes little sense, to all resists makes more.

Yes, subpar warriors that have a mana bar will have gear:).

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Old 09/20/06, 10:46 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by Omelet
Anyone notice the cost of the items in the background of the screenshots?

There is a set of shoulders costing 1500 gold.

The stamina is also rather insane compared to what we have on gear (especially caster gear) now.
It's not gold, it's arena points.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:47 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by Omelet
There is a set of shoulders costing 1500 gold.
Since we know that Arena gear can only be bought with Arena Points, we can assume that it costs 1500 Arena Points, not gold.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:48 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by Omelet
Anyone notice the cost of the items in the background of the screenshots?

There is a set of shoulders costing 1500 gold.

The stamina is also rather insane compared to what we have on gear (especially caster gear) now.
Believe thats 1500 "points" in the new Pvp system.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:48 AM   #21
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I know its a bit early to be jumping to conclusions but can they PLEASE STOP PUTTING -1 SECOND TO GOUGE CD AS A FREAKING ROGUE SET BONUS !!!

That is the most useless piece of crap bonus for a pvp set, its just plain wrong.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:49 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by frmorrison
The gloves were interesting, it says it allows Mortal throw to stop spell casting and silence that school for 3 seconds (Mortal throw sounds like that throwing weapon attack)
Deadly Throw maybe?

If that's true, Deadly Throw is pretty nice with the gloves.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:49 AM   #23
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I read that effect and immediately thought of you Probiscus. Though a ranged silence is reasonablly balanced, and don't help solve kiting or closing distance problems like a knockdown would.

How about increasing the duration of gouge by 0.5-1s? Now that would be something to write home about.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:51 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by Kinv
Also is that 67 DPS weapon a ranged weapon?
Here is the weapon in English,
2H Staff 67.8 dps
48 Stam
32 to spell hit rating
32 to spell crit rating
33 to defense rating
187 damage/healing

It is a caster staff, about equal to Atiesh.

Blizzard is confused about Hunters direction, so no gear or weapons for them yet.

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Old 09/20/06, 10:52 AM   #25
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32 Crit Rating
33 Defense rating
Assuming these are level 70 items I think it's safe to assume that 32 crit equates to 1 or 2% at that level. Wonder how the Defense rating translates to our current way of thinking of the defense skill (+3?, +11? maybe)

Edit: And does anyone how they are going to do the scaling on things like +crit?

Is the scaling on the skill? i.e. (random from the air numbers here) at level 60 1% is 10 crit rating, at level 70 it takes 15 crit rating to have an effective 1% crit?

Or is it a system where instead the bonus from items is scaled. A level 50 item that gives 32 crit at 50 will only give you, say, 8 crit rating at 70.

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