Best 2h Fury Build? for Alliance

quikkly · 09/20/06, 7:27 PM

Basically I'm over MS raid DPS and looking for a solid spec based for alliance warrior.

Gear:

Severance, 1092 AP, 30 Crit in Battle Stance (Non Axe Spec)

I've seen alot going for horde builds but looked alot haven't found a 2h fury build for Alliance that I like to much.

Thanks in advance.

Rane · 09/20/06, 7:31 PM

I'm curious as to how you think a different spec is better for Alliance than for Horde. What don't you like about the 2h Fury "Alliance" builds that you've seen and what are they?

quikkly · 09/20/06, 7:32 PM

Mostly the fact that I dont have a WF Totem, to which I would simply slam spam and WF things to death.

inzamam · 09/20/06, 7:35 PM

If it was strictly for raiding, I would go 19/32. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pIMxbmZVxzVMxkqo
Static 4% extra dmg to all 2h attacks is pretty sweet, and no deepwounds to interrupt CC.

Kegsta · 09/20/06, 7:49 PM

i like this one myself http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVMxdVZqxzV0xRVo
i don't rate impale for pve to highly, i love anger management myself, aswell as full deflection if you do any sort of tanking.

Rane · 09/20/06, 8:02 PM

Originally Posted by inzamam

If it was strictly for raiding, I would go 19/32. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pIMxbmZVxzVMxkqo
Static 4% extra dmg to all 2h attacks is pretty sweet, and no deepwounds to interrupt CC.

Improved Charge?
Improved Heroic Strike?
1 point in Improved Intercept, and 1 in Improved Berserker Rage?

Back to warriorschool you go and take a "how to fill out a profile" course as well.

Provided I'd go 2h Fury at all (DW right now is a lot better for straight up PvE DPS which I assume you mean by "raid spec"), I'd prolly go with this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LMhxbIbZE0uV0xoVo

Impale for the 2h special crits, use Cleave as a ragedump rather than HS. You could be the Demo Shout guy in the guild, but I prefer longer BShouts. Rest would be self-explanatory.

jessi · 09/20/06, 8:52 PM

Impale is overrated for PvE, I agree with the first guy. I'd drop impale and improved cleave and get the later fury stuff.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pGMxdMZE0zVMxRio

inzamam · 09/20/06, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rane

Originally Posted by inzamam

If it was strictly for raiding, I would go 19/32. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pIMxbmZVxzVMxkqo
Static 4% extra dmg to all 2h attacks is pretty sweet, and no deepwounds to interrupt CC.

Improved Charge?
Improved Heroic Strike?
1 point in Improved Intercept, and 1 in Improved Berserker Rage?

Back to warriorschool you go and take a "how to fill out a profile" course as well.

Provided I'd go 2h Fury at all (DW right now is a lot better for straight up PvE DPS which I assume you mean by "raid spec"), I'd prolly go with this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LMhxbIbZE0uV0xoVo

Impale for the 2h special crits, use Cleave as a ragedump rather than HS. You could be the Demo Shout guy in the guild, but I prefer longer BShouts. Rest would be self-explanatory.

No improved Execute, Automatic fail.

5 secs off intercept is awesome. 1 in berserker rage for a spot of snap rage.

Improved HS is good for dps/tanking/Pvp so it adds variety.
Its either imp charge or imp Thunderclap if you want 2h spec.

Cleave costs 8 more rage than Imp. Heroic strike. He is alliance remember so his rage management is much more important than a horder Warrior with WF.

Imp execute is one of the best Talents we get. Get it if your able. If I was MS and considered my raiding more important than pvp, id go 3 enrage and 2 imp execute.

Artaxz · 09/20/06, 10:39 PM

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVMxdVmoZVVdVMVo

All the goodies...PH, SS, ImpSlam, DW, Axe Spec

Or drop Axe spec and SS and pick up ImpInt ImpBR and BT.

Best thing is to get an Ashkandi, get impslam and sword spec and kick pve ass.

Ok its not great, get a Iblis and Castigator you noob.

inzamam · 09/20/06, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Artaxz

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVMxdVmoZVVdVMVo

All the goodies...PH, SS, ImpSlam, DW, Axe Spec

Or drop Axe spec and SS and pick up ImpInt ImpBR and BT.

Best thing is to get an Ashkandi, get impslam and sword spec and kick pve ass.

Ok its not great, get a Iblis and Castigator you noob.

Lol, im getting a hint of sarcasm, so I hope it is a joke....I lol'd when I saw the lack of flurry.

Boevis · 09/20/06, 10:51 PM

Not having Bloodthirst or MS = a joke.

Ren · 09/20/06, 11:05 PM

This is the build I would use if I was 2H fury in raids: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pMhxbIbZVVzVMxkVo

There's an extra point floating in Fury I stuck into Imp Intercept; this point can go anywhere. I picked Imp Demo over Unbridaled Wrath even though the latter would add more dps because the rage it adds is extremely insignificant with a 2h. As for the Arms tree, the two filler points in Parry can go into Imp Heroic Strike if you want. I put five points in TM because you'll swap stances a lot to OP, and you need some to WW.

Impale and Deep Wounds add a lot of dps to a 2h build. Two points in Impale are better than 2 points in 2H spec.

Kegsta · 09/20/06, 11:16 PM

Ren. you got unbrideled wrath but not anger management? - in the spec you linked anyway, which for 1 point will generate more rage that UW (1 rage every 2 seconds isn't it?)

impale is a bit of a toss up, just costs to many points imo.

Khalim · 09/20/06, 11:40 PM

Funny thing about 2H fury is that there are quite a few different options, or the other way of viewing it there arnt that many talents which will improve single target pve dps so you have lots of fillers and floating points

Suggest put your gear into Deathwings spreadsheet and see what the best spec is:
http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewt...p?id=7030&p=20

there is almost no difference between 5/5 2h spec with anger man vs 3/5 2h and impale
on the fury side imp cleave gives nice increase in pve aoe dmg, imp zerg/intercept are nice pvp options

imp hs adds very little dps to duel wield and even less to 2h fury, maxing deflection in my opinion is almost always the better option, esp if you OT at all. Unbridled wrath adds very little rage with a 2H as well.

For what its worth this is what I would go for pretty close to max pve single target dps with nice aoe dmg and deflection for tanking:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVMxdVZVxbVMxoVo

inzamam · 09/20/06, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Khalim

For what its worth this is what I would go for pretty close to max pve single target dps with nice aoe dmg and deflection for tanking:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVMxdVZVxbVMxoVo

Hey thats a good build, I like how your picked up 5/5 2h spec, only modification id do is drop out Cleave and add a point to Piercing howl, PH is awesome for tanking multiple adds and ccing mobs and players. And improved Intercept.

Revised build
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVMxdVZVxzVMxkVo