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Old 09/22/06, 1:53 PM   #51
Zarianis
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Originally Posted by Oaken
What he said ^^^.

http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/9240796.htm

Eyonix or some random guy with a web site? You choose who is the more credible source.
Sadly some will choose the random dude with his own website, just so they can tell themselves that they don't need the expansion.

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Old 09/22/06, 2:05 PM   #52
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I was hoping it'd take as long to go from 60-70 as from 0-60. Don't get me wrong, I like raiding, but when you're an officer of a guild that's trying to grow, week after week of working to fill out raids can get trying.

It took me about 28 days /played over 4 months to hit 60, so I'm not exactly a power leveler, but I loved it. It was fun to just go out on my own and solo quests, convenient to be able to play for just a little bit instead of hours at a time. These days, once I sign on, I'm on pretty much for several hours. I miss the flexibility and independence of leveling. I like to take my time with quests. I like to stop and admire the scenery. As an earlier poster in the thread, I also sometimes skip to the end of the book to see what's going on there, but I always read the middle, because a book is as much about the journey as it is about the destination.

I'm not sure how long it will actually take to level to 70; probably not the same as 0-60 though. I'm sure I'll get used to the thought, and there will still be the UBRS's of level 70 to get through, but I do like going it alone, and I doubt there'll be much room or time for that in the expansion.

Oh, and I'll probably have to actually learn to PvP.

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Old 09/22/06, 2:15 PM   #53
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Originally Posted by Oaken
Eyonix or some random guy with a web site? You choose who is the more credible source.
Is that a trick question?

In fairness the bit-tech article does have some other small inaccuracies in it, so it doesn't totally shock me that there's discrepancy. Their hands-on was in London, not California, so they weren't talking to the development team directly.

Originally Posted by CheshireCat
Eh, my nostalgia goggles aren't as good as they used to be.

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Old 09/22/06, 2:45 PM   #54
borat
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Originally Posted by Dinadass
A big part of the release issues was that Blizzard was simply not prepared for so many players on at the same time. The servers have gotten better, but I do expect them to suck for a few days or a week or two in the expansion. Memories of the 10 or so EQ expansion releases I played during come to mind...

I'll be doing as many instances as possible on the way to 70. Warlock solo grinding is amazingly easy with demonic sacrifice, but it's extremely boring as well. DOT, fear, lifetap, wand, drain soul... it gets old. Running some of the 5 mans that will net decent exp and possible gear upgrades at the same time, while exploring new content with 4 friends/guildies.... that is vastly more appealing to me.
I give Blizzard full forgiveness for launch scalability failures, the system design was in place years before launch and yeah it was obvious they were not prepared for how many people would play. Of course there are still major hiccups every now and then (patch days) but for the most part its ok.

HOWEVER, I think the new forums clearly demonstrate piss-poor technical architecture on Blizzards part, and a reason why TBC release will be a nightmare.

They clearly know how many people read/visit forums, they have had a year to architect a system that is very robust and scalable for web forums, and there are dozens of products and websites that handle much, much, much more forum load than Blizzard that they could have built on.

Instead they release another half-assed attempt, which promptly starts failing almost immediately after they release it. Then they turn off search, which by the way, was supposed to be one of the major selling points of the new forum system. Search is still off as well (at least there are pretty new icons!). It gets so bad they have to shutdown the forums for 3-4 days and transfer the content on to a new server. Which will likely as well start failing in a few months.

Heck how many guilds don't raid on tuesdays anymore because of patch day issues? If Blizzard had managed to pull off a successful forum software change, I wouldn't be so skeptical. But their sheer incompetence at that makes me pretty wary of planning any long leveling vacations around TBC release time. Oh, I'm sure a few weeks later it'll all be great but the first few days...

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Old 09/22/06, 3:22 PM   #55
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So, just to briefly return to that previous point.. would it be possible to, say, level an Undead in the Blood Elf zones without TBC? In other words, are the non-Outland zones and quests fully accesible to the cheapskates?

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Old 09/22/06, 3:26 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by StoNe
Originally Posted by Ren
Originally Posted by kovi
#1 You don't get experience in a raid group other than your rested xp.
#2 I think it has been stated that you will only be able to get xp in the outlands. (not 100% sure about that though)
You do get a small amount of experience in raid groups (10-40mans). I've heard that you can get experience in Azeroth, but there's no reason to and it'll take a very long time after level 64ish.
Oh come on!!! Of course you get XP in Azeroth, keep in mind that most people who play WoW are possibly under 21 and still a minor, they possibly have to wait for their parents to run out and buy them a copy for Christmas. I think you'll find that and also the fact that not everyone will buy it straight away could mean that 50% of a server may not be able to access the Outland content right away and will continue to level to 70 within Azeroth.
First, under 18 is a minor, not 21. Secondly, I think you're crazy if you think 50% of WoW is going to wait until Christmas. Most kids 15-16 already have part time jobs and cars. I bought more games when I was a mid-late teenager than I do now (21) since I had quite a few less expenses to pay.

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Old 09/22/06, 3:41 PM   #57
 Shalas
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Originally Posted by Camaris
So, just to briefly return to that previous point.. would it be possible to, say, level an Undead in the Blood Elf zones without TBC? In other words, are the non-Outland zones and quests fully accesible to the cheapskates?
Yes, although there's only blood elf zones for 1-20.

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