People lazy with consumables annoy me. On any serious learning attempts on a boss like Loatheb, Patchwerk, Thaddius, etc I've always had a Flask of Supreme power and piles of Arcane Elixirs. It just makes the most sense to me to contribute as much. I also burn through several stacks of Superior Mana Potions just to make sure I have mana, even if I don't necessarily need it. Hearing about guilds with people who won't even us basic consumables is painful.
But with the exception of let's say 4-5 guilds, most everyone is like that on my server; guilds are merging due to lack of resources, etc.
Your guild dont supply you with those consumables? And just expect that you turn up with them each time while they sit around then leave early?
Sounds to me like you need to sit down and have a talk with you officers/guild leader mate. The guild should really be supplying you with potions and the like for tanking, unless of course you dont have a gbank, in which case you should be asking what happens to the greens/blues etc that drop during your bwl runs.
Personally I think you're getting a rough deal here, you're putting in loads of effort, they're just sitting around picking up loot.
Re the priest call, bare in mind that if you have a priest heavy raid then healing will drop off at that period, not alot you can do about it other than shout at druids and pallys to step it up.
Yeah the new "bankers" tell me "you are on your own", or were about to give some flask of titans for Nef, but seeing that we can do without, it was decided to save them for new bosses in AQ ( if we get there again lol). They offered to maybe pick up some bijous for zanza from AH, but, it may be my fault, I didn't say yes plz; I am a bit more concerned about raiding properly in general. I will hold off talking with the officers and guild leader, but I am greatfull for all the input as to how things should go and usually go, that I got from you guys, here....
About the priests call? We got two, during the first one the healing was ok, during the second one not (no deaths in between as far as I could tell); alas combatlog was toggled off by mistake (new to it), not sure what happened; will keep an eye on it in the future.
Thanks!
I am 6350 HP unbuffed; buffed, over 8000, I'll check and report back, if you'd still be reading this.
That might not be high enough- I'll ask my MT. LGG gives you a lot more space on that of course.
Originally Posted by Sebila
I only got 413; do you mean that if I can't get to 440, I should bother too much about defense? The only LGG that dropped for us, went to an OT who has since left (with his family and buddies when the previous gl left), but I will try to get one.
I was chuckling saying that by your comment that defense wasn't helpful at the hihg level, like those people who say that AC diminishes. Def is a fantastic stat, of course, but LGG is almost always better than the ZG trinket.
Originally Posted by Sebila
I really don't plan to run ZG much anymore, got both enchants for my tier 2 (even paid for the last bit of exp to get exalted), kinda prefer AQ 'cause I need the Buru shield and probably exp. Or get my AD rep to exalted, for Naax patterns.
Still have to occasionally run ZG to get rep for other people, and enchants for guildies- this is no different than farming raid mats, it helps the guild, and therefor the raid. AQ20's great, esp the shield, but whichever.
You also dont' need to be ON the zg raid to benifit from it. Those bijous should really be supplied by the guild. Grabbing 3-5/run specificly for that purpose is something that should be a no brainer, esp with the increased drop rate.
Re-emphasising that ZG for the enchnats is really not much different than helping guildies farm for raid mats. It's something you should do, at least somewhat.
Originally Posted by Sebila
Tanks again, will do; not only it's nice tip about the timer, but wasn't even aware that they heal too..Only heard it in this topic!
Not certain, but I -think- they do. Worth testing certainly, my MT thinks they don't.
Originally Posted by Sebila
Thanks! I also have a macro tied to my big "+" on the numeric pad (thumb usuage) that takes me into beserker, draws rage, then takes me back into defensive stance; all I got to do is press it 3 times in a row; I'll use it, if I can't figure out a way to check for fw first in a macro...Yeah there is a good OT and a couple of DPS warriors around, but last time it breathed too fast.
Shit happens, ect, just commenting. I'm looking into the macro, but not sure how well I can make it without being alb eto experiment with fear ward and nef's roar, but you can probably do a lot of just by eyeballing status.
Originally Posted by Sebila
Brilliant mana oil seems to be 11g for 2 charges on our server :( Mageblood potions probably 7g for 5, same for medium mana pots or w/e they are called.
Briliant mana oil- 3 Purple Lotus, 2 LBS, 1 vial, 5 charges. Mageblood potions- 1 dreamfoil, 2 plagebloom, 1 vial. The other..combat pots, or 2x sungrass + 2x blindweed. None of these are rare mats (possible exception of dreamfoil), I'd be suprised if you ewren't overestimating the costs here.
Originally Posted by bartolimu
It makes me want to hit Marge Thatcher on the nose with a rolled up newspaper.
Thanks again, I'll try to get a shield with more STA (even the AV one), the ZG one doesn't impresses me (exactly b/c of lack of STA), but I'll run it again for guildies and yes brilliant mana oil is 11-13g for 2 charges on my serve :( Got some mana pots for casters today and maybe I'll also say a nice word to the top healers/decursers to the MT as well (well and also pay attention even more about who's heals land just in time etc) - I really think that it's a very altruist class to play, a healing one; am amazed how you guys do it!
Regarding potion costs, as a herbalist myself I can just trade materials to an alchemist guildie to get my potions for free. I'd be amazed if the alchemists in your guild wouldn't do that. Herbalists might be harder to get on your side since you can't really help them farm herbs, but if you let them know you'll pay 'x' gold for amount 'y' of herb 'z' by whenever your next run is, there's a good chance that they'll supply you for a bit cheaper than the current AH prices. Well it's worth a try :)
Raid wipe = 40 deaths x 1.75G on average = 70G
Consumable Buffs = >40G
Pots = >100G on a failed attempt that started good
That is being generous on the low cost of a wipe.
So you spend 210G on a wipe or 50-70G on a flask which will probably minimize the chance of a wipe because the MT bit it. Flasks really aren't that heavy of a cost...30G/(hour*tank).
I act as MT and I always bring consumable, about 20g worth per BWL run (used to bring flasks too), but I've started to have second thoughts...
As two examples:
Should I use 4-5 stoneshield potions (plus the 2000 AC trinket) for corrosive acid breaths on Chromaggus or should I start trusting that the large number of healers would be enough? (I also use shield block just before each breath, when the cast bars says 1 second or so). All bosses stay glued to me, I have no problems holding aggro (i.e. at Chrom I always have a couple of times more threat on KTM then the DPS guys, yesterday a warrior with Rag's hand)
Should I ask our healers if they ever bring mana pots, b/c for example at the last priest call at Nef, the heals were very weak (weaker then on previous priests calls on the same attempt) and I had to use last stand? Then a few seconds later, while still recovering, I got feared ( a priest said he did fw me, but could it have failed? Were I to see it, I could have broken fear, takes less then 2 seconds), and Nef shadow flamed the raid.
Then rather then stay for more attempts, people were bailing out (it was a bit past 9:30 server time, our official end time for the raid) b/c they had school next day etc
The lock that bailed out first, never made it on any dps charts...
On the same run I used Zanza potions (10g for bijou/token) for +50 STA, other +25 STA food Chimaerok Chops
(1g each), Blasted Lands cocktail, arthax potions, mongoose(2g each), dense sharpening stones (or elemental), 3 FAP (2g each) -so that we don't wipe at trash mobs anymore, one FR (2g), etc. The thing is I can afford it, but I'd still like to hear your advise, 'cause I am in a bit of a pinch, or at least puzzled.. I think the guys started to take things for granted (i.e. each boss in BWL is one pull), but when things go S, they don't seem to hang around and finish the job.
Hrm. A few thoughts as a healer who went through learning BWL when it was still fairly new.
You're overpotting from what should be required even for learning. We used maybe 2 weeks worth of stoneshield pots in Chromaggus, and while we flasked for Brodlord for 3 weeks, that also dropped off in a hurry. Really BWL is where the fuzzy line for consumables started cropping up. I remember being absolutly scandalized seeing a raid fully flasked for Nefarian- and feeling really proud about farming my very own distilled wisdom for it. The most pots I usually brought were food (when we killed Nef food stacked so I had 4 different kinds) and one stack of mana pots that I was kinda iffy about keeping fully stocked. Going all out with flasks, oil, dps pots etc is simply overkill unless your gear is horrific. It's entirely reasonable to do BWL in 4-5 hours with mild gearing and no pots (we do it in 2.5 hours with 5-10 alts and no serious consumables). We killed Nef with about 25% blues through the raid and while it was difficult- it was certainly repeatable without insane potting.
Have a litle faith in your healers. If they can always expect you to over pot for the encounter, yes, they have a much more comfortable learning curve. I have faith that one of our tanks is insane about potting and I'll admit I'm a little more lazy about healing him than the others- I know he'll be safe so I can focus on the folks who aren't.
Essentially in BWL if you are potting significantly, your healers will not be required to. It's shouldering the burden (and it IS a burden) for them while they could be putting more into it. There's a finite amount of healing required- if you remove half of it through consumables you may actually be ringing more healers than you need.
Shove those little birdies out of the nest and make them work a little more for it, it will do them well in progressivly more difficult encounters. Keep farming pots, but spread out the use and learn to back off the throttle on content you've already learned. If I used full buffs in BWL at the moment I could probably heal it with 5 other fully geared and buffed healers as long as we had some dispellers handy.
And consider looking into a further progressed guild. The level of commitment you're giving to learning BWL at this late date is almost wasted on a guild as casual as yours seems to be. You may always be in the situation of giving 125% while others only give 50% if you're 100% commited to a slower moving guild. Learning at a slower pace is perfectly fine for many many people. It's not always as okay for people who feel pushed to progress and give thier most. Don't let that burn you out on the game- okay?
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Raid wipe = 40 deaths x 1.75G on average = 70G
Consumable Buffs = >40G
Pots = >100G on a failed attempt that started good
That is being generous on the low cost of a wipe.
So you spend 210G on a wipe or 50-70G on a flask which will probably minimize the chance of a wipe because the MT bit it. Flasks really aren't that heavy of a cost...30G/(hour*tank).
I know, but the new bank we got is stingy and/or want to see if we can do it without it. And yes we can do it without flask(BWL that is), except I was heavily potted; will cut down on that and we'll see how it goes. Minor part of the problem is that many healers are new to the guild, like the priests and we are lacking droids. To give one example, the other day I was tanking in MC and this new priest we got, died on each second pull of lava packs (he said he had 100 FR). Sure thing I looked in my group and the paladin had turned ret and was doing DPS. We went back yesterday to finish Domo and Rag (one pull each) with more experienced healers, but at Domo I also had 1-2 of his healers on me all the time (boo mages :)).
Hrm. A few thoughts as a healer who went through learning BWL when it was still fairly new.
You're overpotting from what should be required even for learning. We used maybe 2 weeks worth of stoneshield pots in Chromaggus, and while we flasked for Brodlord for 3 weeks, that also dropped off in a hurry. Really BWL is where the fuzzy line for consumables started cropping up. I remember being absolutly scandalized seeing a raid fully flasked for Nefarian- and feeling really proud about farming my very own distilled wisdom for it. The most pots I usually brought were food (when we killed Nef food stacked so I had 4 different kinds) and one stack of mana pots that I was kinda iffy about keeping fully stocked. Going all out with flasks, oil, dps pots etc is simply overkill unless your gear is horrific. It's entirely reasonable to do BWL in 4-5 hours with mild gearing and no pots (we do it in 2.5 hours with 5-10 alts and no serious consumables). We killed Nef with about 25% blues through the raid and while it was difficult- it was certainly repeatable without insane potting.
Have a litle faith in your healers. If they can always expect you to over pot for the encounter, yes, they have a much more comfortable learning curve. I have faith that one of our tanks is insane about potting and I'll admit I'm a little more lazy about healing him than the others- I know he'll be safe so I can focus on the folks who aren't.
Essentially in BWL if you are potting significantly, your healers will not be required to. It's shouldering the burden (and it IS a burden) for them while they could be putting more into it. There's a finite amount of healing required- if you remove half of it through consumables you may actually be ringing more healers than you need.
Shove those little birdies out of the nest and make them work a little more for it, it will do them well in progressivly more difficult encounters. Keep farming pots, but spread out the use and learn to back off the throttle on content you've already learned. If I used full buffs in BWL at the moment I could probably heal it with 5 other fully geared and buffed healers as long as we had some dispellers handy.
And consider looking into a further progressed guild. The level of commitment you're giving to learning BWL at this late date is almost wasted on a guild as casual as yours seems to be. You may always be in the situation of giving 125% while others only give 50% if you're 100% commited to a slower moving guild. Learning at a slower pace is perfectly fine for many many people. It's not always as okay for people who feel pushed to progress and give thier most. Don't let that burn you out on the game- okay?
Thanks Bekah, what you're saying makes lots of sense.
We killed Nef on Sat (one pull), but:
a) I still had to use one zanza(ZG) potion as a clutch (as per an advise I got in this threat), 3 health stones, etc. No flask, since we don't do that in BWL.
b) Only 5-6 had mana pots on them (I've checked using RA and had even bought some for them).
c) I had posted on the priests forum the hint I got from here, how to deal with shadow flame (at Firemaw and why not? Even at Nef). The new priests officer ( a woman) was rude and said something among the lines that "she tries to ignore my posts in the priests forum" and only eventually admitted that she read it when I asked her to please go read, it's 5 lines... That was the only post about healing btw. I also talked to the other priest leader ( a friend) and explained to him the hint about shadow flame and he agreed. Still not sure what they do in that regard (I did a post mortem analysis and I took about 35% shadow damage at Nef and maybe 62% melee). Just for my own education I will watch closely what happens when shadow flame is announced (i.e. am I topped, shielded and do 2.5s heals land immediatelly after?). Then the new OT we got, managed to piss me off the day after though with a remark "how all the healers are upset b/c I tell them how to heal", but when pressed he redirected me to my only post pertaining to healing (that hint about shadow flame)? Bottom line is, that I got some aggravation both from that woman and then from the OT. Not to mention that if you mention expenses for consumables the reaction is similar (at least from one or two guys, in the same discussion).
I don't think too many people saw my discussion with that woman priest (i.e. We were done in BWL and forming for MC, while the guild leader was in a channel with the other warriors about some hunter looting first what seems to be the second best pre Naax tanking weapon from Nef, Crul'shorukh, Edge of Chaos and then Askhandi. Actually that's why I had opened my mouth, cause I was upset about the loot in the first place), but now I will shut up and see how it goes.
Oh and the funny thing is that this was the second week in a row when we didn't get to do AQ (not to mention Naax) cause a warrior dropped raid after being upset (this time my friend, the warrior class leader, b/c of the loot distribution thingie. We recruited one or two more, but with only some MC gear; I hope that at least they'll show consistently; b/c each time one of us, the top 4 geared warriors drop, we don't even get to take on prophet, without 6 tanks)
I am exploring one other venue, a more advanced guild (talked to their MT and also, to an ex guildie and one of my best friends in the game, who is an officer there and came back to help us in a pug to finish MC yesterday).
I wish mageblood was that cheap on my server, 7g is sooo cheap. I havent had much time to farm for mats so I have had to buy them, 22g for a stack of five.
So it looks like you are adament on staying with the guild. Then you really need to speak up if you want things to change. If you are unhappy, then say it to them. Sometimes they need a reality check. Since you are main tank, I would ask your GL to be a co-lead, MT is critical to a guild's success.
Skill is greater than gear. If you have people screwing up in BWL, then they need to be told by the class lead, straight up. Class leads need to take responsibility on how their class performs, what consumables they take, who goes on the raid, the resistances needed for the instance, and recruiting skilled player. If they do not step up, then it is time for recruitment. They need to earn their title. It is fine to be a casual guild, but when it comes to raiding, you still need to perform to advance. And as you go further in the game, you will realize you cannot carry those 5-10 dead weight any more who are there to collect the epix.
All flasks for a raid is provided by the guild bank, no questions asked. If people have 1/2 a brain, they know this is for everyone's benefit, and actually more cost effective in the long run - in time and repair cost. If the guild bank is cheap, then they need to start asking for donations or making a strategy for guild members to contribute to raid. Banker also needs to earn their title. Do you see a pattern here?
Leadership is very important on how the guild goes. Each class lead is told of their expectations, knowledge of strategy, whether to get enough FR for their class or how many consumables are needed to raid. In our guild, 5+ major mana pots for the paladins are required to raid. I usually carry around 10 major mana pots, and 10 demonic runes, leads should bring more to support their class. I also monitor the mana usage of each member of the pally class to see who is doing what, and directing the healing if someone goes OOM. Most of the time, there is no need to use too many of them. Healer consumables are farmed by each raider for themselves. Flasks are provided to the MT healer if asked, no questions asked.
As an example on skill, on Nef, paladins should step up healing on when there is a priest class call. They should be judging wisdom on Nef and smacking to regen the whole fight. So getting through the priest class call should not even be a problem whatsoever. And 1 paladin keep judge wisdom on Nef during the priest class call, and priest should be wanding Nef to regen mana. These are the little things your class lead should be telling their classes. Leadership, leadership, leadership...and having more than 1 class lead per class is also helpful, increases the chance of getting a good leader. Just make sure you get a good leader.
So it looks like you are adament on staying with the guild. Then you really need to speak up if you want things to change. If you are unhappy, then say it to them. Sometimes they need a reality check. Since you are main tank, I would ask your GL to be a co-lead, MT is critical to a guild's success.
Skill is greater than gear. If you have people screwing up in BWL, then they need to be told by the class lead, straight up. Class leads need to take responsibility on how their class performs, what consumables they take, who goes on the raid, the resistances needed for the instance, and recruiting skilled player. If they do not step up, then it is time for recruitment. They need to earn their title. It is fine to be a casual guild, but when it comes to raiding, you still need to perform to advance. And as you go further in the game, you will realize you cannot carry those 5-10 dead weight any more who are there to collect the epix.
All flasks for a raid is provided by the guild bank, no questions asked. If people have 1/2 a brain, they know this is for everyone's benefit, and actually more cost effective in the long run - in time and repair cost. If the guild bank is cheap, then they need to start asking for donations or making a strategy for guild members to contribute to raid. Banker also needs to earn their title. Do you see a pattern here?
Leadership is very important on how the guild goes. Each class lead is told of their expectations, knowledge of strategy, whether to get enough FR for their class or how many consumables are needed to raid. In our guild, 5+ major mana pots for the paladins are required to raid. I usually carry around 10 major mana pots, and 10 demonic runes, leads should bring more to support their class. I also monitor the mana usage of each member of the pally class to see who is doing what, and directing the healing if someone goes OOM. Most of the time, there is no need to use too many of them. Healer consumables are farmed by each raider for themselves. Flasks are provided to the MT healer if asked, no questions asked.
As an example on skill, on Nef, paladins should step up healing on when there is a priest class call. They should be judging wisdom on Nef and smacking to regen the whole fight. So getting through the priest class call should not even be a problem whatsoever. And 1 paladin keep judge wisdom on Nef during the priest class call, and priest should be wanding Nef to regen mana. These are the little things your class lead should be telling their classes. Leadership, leadership, leadership...and having more than 1 class lead per class is also helpful, increases the chance of getting a good leader. Just make sure you get a good leader.
Thank you for all the specific hints fuboo; if nothing, I'll start paying closer attention to what people do during those fights (i.e. judging wisdom on Nef etc).
Oh, I am exploring other venues (like with the third and second power guild on my server), but I will give it a few weeks of thought, since:
A) For all practical purposes the guild has changed the schedule back to 4 days and if last week we finished MC in the 4th, starting this week we'll first go to AQ40 Tuesday and Thursday (something that we haven't done in months) and then try to clear BWL on Saturday (I suspect that if we don't finish BWL in one shot, we'll wrap it up Sunday). I've noticed that the gl approved this suggested change of schedule (after that suggestion, I had added that "we should go back to 4 raiding days anyways") very quickly; it took us about 20 seconds, it was only said like once in raid/guild chat…
B) I've tried to focus on other things as well; i.e. yesterday I re-learned how to move with the mouse, from wasd; 'cause for the first time in years I restarted PVP (and before that I had only one week of PVP due to a slow computer at the time, mainly) and duelling and while during 5 successive AV wins (my first AV was two days ago), I could tank Drek and other bosses with no problems on each run, I also discovered that to be effective in offense ('cause since I was using TF, I had to intercept, stun, slow, interrupt casting, kill etc enemy players and guards) binding your abilities to keys, while moving with the mouse, is much faster….Well I had them on keys before, but didn't press them enough. :)
C) This is a small server, i.e. my previous guild leader healed me at a Rag pug and yesterday in one AV while tanking Drek; so I am known as MT in my guild and probably for some dedication as well (going through 1.5 major splits and power struggles - lol I could post some things in the other threat "coup d'etat"). In another AV, one of our paladin class leader, that turned ret, was first in kills; there were guildies and friends on each instance etc Even some players from other servers asked me about a transfer? What I am getting is that almost everyone knows each other on this server(I am also known as a crafter etc), a botched move could be risky.
D) Not only I enjoy being MT, but I am next in line for my BP to complete my t2 and the Elementium Reinforced Bulwark (Chrommie shield) and I think I deserve it, 'cause the only shield that dropped went to a DPS warrior (the only officer for warriors now) that has actually spent twice as much DKP then me over time (since I used to pass on DPS gear, while getting capped and then he rolled against me on tanking gear) and the only BP to the new OT (who has almost as much spent DKP as me).
Why is t2 important to complete for a tank? Well, as I was talking/investigating with the MT from the third ranking guild, there doesn't seem to be much tanking gear in AQ so if in time, I'll move to a guild that does Naax, it would make sense to have it (especially from what I read on the 4th guild site, that they don't even do BWL anymore, so they expect you to have the gear).
E) One of our bank characters said he'll help with stoneshield potions (we may be collecting the mats etc) in BWL, albeit not with zanza (which they had said they'd buy in the past, but no biggie). I've also had more success as a craftsman this weekend, and while already financially secure, I might have made another 1000g over the weekend (I am an axesmith, but now I sell bloodsoul, darkrune armor + dawn edges mainly, but on credit with no interest - on trust basically), so expenses are more a matter of principle to me, then anything else…I am lucky in that regard. BTW I got more mana pots and brilliant oil from AH for the healrs for the next BWL run :)
And this bank character was the hunter that we the warriors got upset about loot distribution, lol and that brings me to the last point:
F) People, like the OT and even my main healer now, that both come from what used to be a more advanced guild say that this is the nicest guild they've been into.
So it looks like you are adament on staying with the guild. Then you really need to speak up if you want things to change. If you are unhappy, then say it to them. Sometimes they need a reality check. Since you are main tank, I would ask your GL to be a co-lead, MT is critical to a guild's success.
Skill is greater than gear. If you have people screwing up in BWL, then they need to be told by the class lead, straight up. Class leads need to take responsibility on how their class performs, what consumables they take, who goes on the raid, the resistances needed for the instance, and recruiting skilled player. If they do not step up, then it is time for recruitment. They need to earn their title. It is fine to be a casual guild, but when it comes to raiding, you still need to perform to advance. And as you go further in the game, you will realize you cannot carry those 5-10 dead weight any more who are there to collect the epix.
All flasks for a raid is provided by the guild bank, no questions asked. If people have 1/2 a brain, they know this is for everyone's benefit, and actually more cost effective in the long run - in time and repair cost. If the guild bank is cheap, then they need to start asking for donations or making a strategy for guild members to contribute to raid. Banker also needs to earn their title. Do you see a pattern here?
Leadership is very important on how the guild goes. Each class lead is told of their expectations, knowledge of strategy, whether to get enough FR for their class or how many consumables are needed to raid. In our guild, 5+ major mana pots for the paladins are required to raid. I usually carry around 10 major mana pots, and 10 demonic runes, leads should bring more to support their class. I also monitor the mana usage of each member of the pally class to see who is doing what, and directing the healing if someone goes OOM. Most of the time, there is no need to use too many of them. Healer consumables are farmed by each raider for themselves. Flasks are provided to the MT healer if asked, no questions asked.
As an example on skill, on Nef, paladins should step up healing on when there is a priest class call. They should be judging wisdom on Nef and smacking to regen the whole fight. So getting through the priest class call should not even be a problem whatsoever. And 1 paladin keep judge wisdom on Nef during the priest class call, and priest should be wanding Nef to regen mana. These are the little things your class lead should be telling their classes. Leadership, leadership, leadership...and having more than 1 class lead per class is also helpful, increases the chance of getting a good leader. Just make sure you get a good leader.
Thank you for all the specific hints fuboo; if nothing, I'll start paying closer attention to what people do during those fights (i.e. judging wisdom on Nef etc).
Oh, I am exploring other venues (like with the third and second power guild on my server), but I will give it a few weeks of thought, since:
A) For all practical purposes the guild has changed the schedule back to 4 days and if last week we finished MC in the 4th, starting this week we'll first go to AQ40 Tuesday and Thursday (something that we haven't done in months) and then try to clear BWL on Saturday (I suspect that if we don't finish BWL in one shot, we'll wrap it up Sunday). I've noticed that the gl approved this suggested change of schedule (after that suggestion, I had added that "we should go back to 4 raiding days anyways") very quickly; it took us about 20 seconds, it was only said like once in raid/guild chat…
B) I've tried to focus on other things as well; i.e. yesterday I re-learned how to move with the mouse, from wasd; 'cause for the first time in years I restarted PVP (and before that I had only one week of PVP due to a slow computer at the time, mainly) and duelling and while during 5 successive AV wins (my first AV was two days ago), I could tank Drek and other bosses with no problems on each run, I also discovered that to be effective in offense ('cause since I was using TF, I had to intercept, stun, slow, interrupt casting, kill etc enemy players and guards) binding your abilities to keys, while moving with the mouse, is much faster….Well I had them on keys before, but didn't press them enough. :)
C) This is a small server, i.e. my previous guild leader healed me at a Rag pug and yesterday in one AV while tanking Drek; so I am known as MT in my guild and probably for some dedication as well (going through 1.5 major splits and power struggles - lol I could post some things in the other threat "coup d'etat"). In another AV, one of our paladin class leader, that turned ret, was first in kills; there were guildies and friends on each instance etc Even some players from other servers asked me about a transfer? What I am getting is that almost everyone knows each other on this server(I am also known as a crafter etc), a botched move could be risky.
D) Not only I enjoy being MT, but I am next in line for my BP to complete my t2 and the Elementium Reinforced Bulwark (Chrommie shield) and I think I deserve it, 'cause the only shield that dropped went to a DPS warrior (the only officer for warriors now) that has actually spent twice as much DKP then me over time (since I used to pass on DPS gear, while getting capped and then he rolled against me on tanking gear) and the only BP to the new OT (who has almost as much spent DKP as me).
Why is t2 important to complete for a tank? Well, as I was talking/investigating with the MT from the third ranking guild, there doesn't seem to be much tanking gear in AQ so if in time, I'll move to a guild that does Naax, it would make sense to have it (especially from what I read on the 4th guild site, that they don't even do BWL anymore, so they expect you to have the gear).
E) One of our bank characters said he'll help with stoneshield potions (we may be collecting the mats etc) in BWL, albeit not with zanza (which they had said they'd buy in the past, but no biggie). I've also had more success as a craftsman this weekend, and while already financially secure, I might have made another 1000g over the weekend (I am an axesmith, but now I sell bloodsoul, darkrune armor + dawn edges mainly, but on credit with no interest - on trust basically), so expenses are more a matter of principle to me, then anything else…I am lucky in that regard. BTW I got more mana pots and brilliant oil from AH for the healrs for the next BWL run :)
And this bank character was the hunter that we the warriors got upset about loot distribution, lol and that brings me to the last point:
F) People, like the OT and even my main healer now, that both come from what used to be a more advanced guild say that this is the nicest guild they've been into.
09/22/06, 10:47 PM
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