Hmz. I replaced my keybinding for Q and E with something useful. Does right click + A resp. D then count towards forcing an update?

just let the forward key go and hit it immediatly again. thats good enough. you just have to press something so the server is forced to update your position.

I think we have had 8 Heigan kills or so and still we always end up with about 30 people dead. For some reason some people just CAN'T learn the dance.

I think the most frustrating thing in this game is when you yourself learn the Heigan dance or Thaddius moving the first try but then have to spend 20-30 wipes watching the other guild members not learning.

I have to agree with you on this one, I go insane when people fail at something over and over, then give lame excuses like "OMG i didn't get hit by that!". It seems all of those hours spent playing mario paid off. :toot:

I had it down on the 3rd attempt and havent died to the dance since except one time due to accidently hitting my camera reverse bind (whoopsie!)

I count out loud as I run, it helps me focus.

Most important thing for people to do when learning is simply to pretend no one else is in the room. If you run after you see people move, you will die. You must look like you are running AHEAD of the raid to be actually even with the raid. Other than that make sure you dont overshoot the zones and its set. For me this means. Verbally: "One!" run to *just past the splash line, stop running, wait for splash, run. Verbally: "Two!" (repeat) Verbally: "Three" run to 3/4 zone, rotate body with arrow keys for that pause as it seems to time it perfectly, wait for splash, RUN. repeat etc, and as soon as you hit zone 3 on the 3rd rot run up to platform.

I always have a quick pause between zones and I've never had the server not update quick enough. Jumping hasn't worked for me on other encounters though.

You don't.. strafe? :o

It's odd -- as silly as this probably sounds, I had no idea that A/D strafed if you held the right mouse button down, and I had to hear people refer to it in passing dozens of times before I realized what they were talking about. For all intents and purposes, I use QWES as my movement scheme, with the default bindings. Basically all my movement is done with a combination of QWE and mouselook.

Indeed, I was never using Q & E, always strafing with right click and A & D.
Therefore I thought I might aswell bind kick and gouge to those two keys.

I'm much the same way, except I made the secondary binding for 'walk backwards' an extra mouse button (on the MX1000, the button between page forward and page back, which I think I mapped to ctrl+shift+~). I'd bind secondary strafes to the mouse also if I had room. It's great for tanking/postitioning in those encounters where you don't need to be strafing for speed.

kind of funny - i was the exact opposite. i always strafed with a and d and right mouse, and didn't even realize q and e were strafe buttons, so i didn't miss them at all when i rebound them.

I pretty much never used Q and E as strafe buttons. I think they were the first buttons I bound to actions, in fact (Mortal Strike/Hamstring woot)

I am afraid of even starting Heigan, what with our dancing fiasco on C'Thun's Dark Glare. If people cant avoid dark glare, how will they do this?

Heh, I think its time I found out, I am adding Heigan to the schedule for Monday =)

Q and E to strafe. Left mouse button to mouselook and just watch the upcoming lavabursts to know where to move.

I sometimes die trying to renew all those idiots that did get hit, on 1 and 4 I usually have time enough for a fheal. I use to wander too close and it was fatal :(

Its pretty amazing how encounters like Thaddius or Heigan or Horsemen can cause connection trouble or video card issues for people who have no issues in any other part of the zone!

Thaddius is a little different, as the polarities can create lag, just like Vaelastrasz. But yeah, I find it a little bit odd that people tend to get these "lagspikes" at Heigan.

Using the top path I'm able to throw off a 1.5 second heal every 1/4th position while not taking eruptions.

Gee.. Ya think? :p

I can get a regrowth off at those positions as well, although it's a bit close.

I am baffled as to why these intricate methods of doing the dance are needed. It doesn't go THAT fast. My guild hasn't beaten him yet but doing the stage two dance was so rediculously easy, it really doesn't even require much thought. I just moved to first position, waited for burst, moved to where the burst was, wait for burst again, etc... etc.... Didn't use any fancy strafing, didn't have to watch the platform or find exact spots to stand on the ground.

Granted, it might have been a bit harder to coordinate if there had been 39 other people trying to do it with me, as it was there were only 3 of us alive shortly after stage 2 started on the one attempt we did, so that might have something to do with how easy it seemed.

Thats the diffrence between wussy's and real men. The wussy's keeps arguing about how it's not their fault and you end up laughing out of the retardness of poor excuses over and over again. Real men is so annoyd over theirself that you dont really need to even comment it.

On-topic: I always make sure I got enough HP to survive a splash and if I get a splash I pop a healthstone and a GNRP. One kill I used 3 GNRP :D That was before I started using Deviate though, since I'm a orc it really helps to be abit smaller :)

@Seeten; I though the same aswell, but since you can basicly kill heigan with only 15 people alive its alot more doable. If someone dies at C'thun it's a high chance it will create a chain reaction of others dying aswell.

I think we used about 6hours in total in terms of practise on Heigan before we downed him. We had some quite major improvement when we asked for ventrilo silence during the dance, especially if you die(no, wtf lagg or whatever shouts) and made sure every one was only focusing on theirself. What I dont get is how everyone hates the trash before heigan. Sure it was demorlizing in the beginging when you wiped and lost a dozen of people every pull, but after we got it nailed down I find it the trash I enjoy most so far in the zone. Just get a plan and blast through it.

Think I got an artpad here somewhere if any one is intrested.

Edit: Found it, for those who are intrested. ( http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?j6cjqd1invts )

I dont remember how much time it took for my guild, but we basically kept dying until we memorized the pattern. I made this 8Mb video that may help: http://rapidshare.de/files/34841581/...video.avi.html That is me successfully walking through the lava.

Some other tips i can think of.. dont trust the cracks, it is more about zones than about edges. If you are at the right spot, you can stand a bit of lag. If you hesitate or wait for others to move, you will eventually die. +speed enchantment on boots may help a bit (most of the time I prefer to run faster than to have +70 hp).