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Old 09/25/06, 1:29 PM   #1
psychaotic
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Murloc Warrior
 
Kilrogg
talents:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...d/talents.html
spells:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...id/spells.html

they aren't on the front page yet, but you can get to them by playing with the url, looks the same as were leaked recently.

http://ctprofiles.net/229060

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Old 09/25/06, 1:31 PM   #2
Lord BEEF
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Mal'Ganis
Thanks for the heads up

Wow, they changed the prereqs on restoration by quite a bit, not sure how I feel about them yet

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Old 09/25/06, 1:32 PM   #3
 frmorrison
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The talents have been up on the Alpha for over a week, so I suspected they would be released.

However, when I clicked on those links the page was there but it was blank.


Edit: Just refreshed, it works now.


The EU WoW site usually had these first, what happened?

Millions of words are written annually purporting to tell how to beat the races, whereas the best possible advice on the subject is found in the three monosyllables: 'Do not try.'

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Old 09/25/06, 1:40 PM   #4
Cord
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Blood Elf Priest
 
Farstriders
Reflection being a prerequisite for Nature's Swiftness makes me a happy boy.

Nurturing Instinct is making me second guess my heavy restoration spec. That talent alone makes me think that they are going to be focusing on letting us actually use our forms. I would really enjoy being able to spam shreds only to shift out every little while to let a nice Rejuv and Regrowth go off.

Regardless, I think I'll be speccing into heavy Feral until I hit 70 where I may switch into a 0/30/31 build. I like the talents. Dreamstate is sexy for Balance Druids.

Edit: Hell yes! Flying Form!

here is some awareness. If you dont like it then dont read it. It doesnt effecct you so why care,...right? RIGHT?

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Old 09/25/06, 1:41 PM   #5
Zyla
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Mal'Ganis
imp leader of the pack... HOLY HELL

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Zyla, International Man of a Certain Standard.
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What have you brought to this discussion? The usual vacuous and contentless tripe that you contribute to these forums - no more and no less.

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Old 09/25/06, 1:42 PM   #6
thejdawg
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Mal'Ganis
I am going to be so far behind in levelling to 70 because I'm going to spend 4 days flying fucking everywhere.


Also, these talents (and spells come to think of it) are pretty hot. I am excited.

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Old 09/25/06, 1:43 PM   #7
Fres
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Gnome Warlock
 
Mal'Ganis
Please copy/paste because big brother does not want me to see these druid changes


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Old 09/25/06, 1:44 PM   #8
Cord
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Farstriders
Originally Posted by Zyla
imp leader of the pack... HOLY HELL
I think we'll be allowed to spec Feral in a raid! :D

here is some awareness. If you dont like it then dont read it. It doesnt effecct you so why care,...right? RIGHT?

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Old 09/25/06, 1:46 PM   #9
jarito
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Stonemaul
Spells:

Cyclone
Requires Level 70
249 Mana30 yd range
1.5 sec cast
Tosses the enemy target into the air, preventing all action but making them invulnerable for up to 6 sec. Only one target can be affected by your Cyclone at a time.


Feral Combat

Maim - Rank 1
Requires Level 62
35 Energy9 yd range
Instant cast10 sec cooldown
Requires Cat Form
Finishing move that causes damage plus an additional amount and incapacitates the opponent. Any damage caused will revive the target. Causes more damage and lasts longer per combo point:
1 point: 129 damage and 2 seconds
2 points: 213 damage and 3 seconds
3 points: 297 damage and 4 seconds
4 points: 381 damage and 5 seconds
5 points: 465 damage and 6 seconds

Lacerate - Rank 1
Requires Level 66
15 Rage
0.001 sec cast
Requires Bear Form, Dire Bear Form
Lacerates the enemy target, making them bleed for 155 damage over 15 sec and causing a high amount of threat. This effect stacks up to 5 times on the same target.

Flight Form (Shapeshift)
Requires Level 68
498 Mana
3 sec cast
Transforms the Druid into a flight form, increasing movement speed by 60% and allowing you to fly. Can only use this form in Outland.

The act of shapeshifting frees the caster of Polymorph and Movement Impairing effects.


Lifebloom - Rank 1
Requires Level 64
220 Mana40 yd range
Instant cast
Heals the target for 273 over 7 sec. When Lifebloom completes its duration or is dispelled, the target is instantly healed for 600. This effect can stack up to 3 times on the same target.

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Old 09/25/06, 1:47 PM   #10
impossible!
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Orc Rogue
 
Kel'Thuzad
Clarification at last:
Flight Form (Shapeshift)
Requires Level 68
498 Mana
3 sec cast
Transforms the Druid into a flight form, increasing movement speed by 60% and allowing you to fly. Can only use this form in Outland.

The act of shapeshifting frees the caster of Polymorph and Movement Impairing effects.

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Old 09/25/06, 1:48 PM   #11
Tors
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Orc Hunter
 
Hyjal
damnit I was hoping for the hunter talents next ><

One thing I'm wondering about Flight Form is if it is usable during combat. Either way it seems like flying is going to be a very easy way to escape in world PvP.

Dude, don't fuck up the rotation

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Old 09/25/06, 1:48 PM   #12
Zyla
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Improved Leader of the Pack
Requires 30 Feral
Requires Leader of the Pack

Everyone affected by the leader of the pack aura will also heal themselves for 2% of their total hp upon a critical strike 33/66/100% of the time. This effect can only occur once every 6 seconds.

Originally Posted by Apate View Post
Zyla, International Man of a Certain Standard.
Originally Posted by Wraithlin View Post
What have you brought to this discussion? The usual vacuous and contentless tripe that you contribute to these forums - no more and no less.

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Old 09/25/06, 1:51 PM   #13
Lord BEEF
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Improved leader of the pack seems really weak to me personally.

If you have physical dps classes with 6000 health in your group, they gain 120 health every 6 seconds at best. Either the % healed needs to go up, or the "only once every 6 seconds" restriction needs to be removed.

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Old 09/25/06, 1:55 PM   #14
Kasi
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That's still 1200 health a minute, and maybe put with a paladin's judgement of light might mean that this melee group might not need much healing at all.

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Old 09/25/06, 1:56 PM   #15
Lord BEEF
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Tauren Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
Silly moonkin build:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000


Note how hard it is to get improved faerie fire. You have to give up things that boost your own dps and mana regeneration to pick it up.

Feral DPS/tank

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

Mangle basically replaces shred, saving two talent points from improved shred (though that talent reduces lacerate's rage cost now too), but not enough points to pick up nurturing instinct

Healbot with feral charge

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...01531502531051

God damn it's easy to sink lots of points into restoration. I didn't even get sublety. Also of note is that improved tranquility makes it threatless which might be useful somehow

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Old 09/25/06, 1:57 PM   #16
aquacadet
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Mal'Ganis
Does the 3 stack of lifebloom mean from 3 druids?

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Old 09/25/06, 1:59 PM   #17
GamingManiac
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Tauren Shaman
 
Burning Blade
I feel bad for feral druids that want to go 41 deep in feral. I can't think of a good talent setup that doesn't take at least 49 for cat and 52 for bear. And doing that, they have to give up either OoC or furor/imp enrage.

The tree's almost too good everywhere deep in the tree. Same problem enhancement shamans face (nearly every single T6-8 talent being a must other than Mental Quickness).

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Old 09/25/06, 2:00 PM   #18
 frmorrison
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At first glance, I thought imp LotP was good, but it sucks just like the Hunter's Spirit Link talent does. 2% HP every 6 seconds (at most, depends on random numbers) is weak, but at least it is a group buff, but needs more ability.

Also, this talent confirmation means those guys at Curse forums were leaking the accurate info.


It seems you could cast Flight form in combat, since you can do all other forms while in combat. Maybe that is why it is only 60% movement speed and doesn't get the PvP set bonus added to it.

Millions of words are written annually purporting to tell how to beat the races, whereas the best possible advice on the subject is found in the three monosyllables: 'Do not try.'

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Old 09/25/06, 2:00 PM   #19
Zyla
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Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Lord BEEF
Silly moonkin build:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000


Note how hard it is to get improved faerie fire. You have to give up things that boost your own dps and mana regeneration to pick it up.

Feral DPS/tank

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

Mangle basically replaces shred, saving two talent points from improved shred (though that talent reduces lacerate's rage cost now too), but not enough points to pick up nurturing instinct

Healbot with feral charge

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...01531502531051

God damn it's easy to sink lots of points into restoration. I didn't even get sublety. Also of note is that improved tranquility makes it threatless which might be useful somehow
imp tranquility has been like that for a long time.

it seems to me that a manaless 5000+ heal every minute is quite nice. JoL and this means a ton of healing for melee classes.

I feel bad for feral druids that want to go 41 deep in feral. I can't think of a good talent setup that doesn't take at least 49 for cat and 52 for bear. And doing that, they have to give up either OoC or furor/imp enrage.
Here:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

Originally Posted by Apate View Post
Zyla, International Man of a Certain Standard.
Originally Posted by Wraithlin View Post
What have you brought to this discussion? The usual vacuous and contentless tripe that you contribute to these forums - no more and no less.

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Old 09/25/06, 2:01 PM   #20
Kaubel
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Originally Posted by Fres
Please copy/paste because big brother does not want me to see these druid changes

Originally Posted by Lyta View Post
I've been trying to concentrate on studying for my Proof Methods test tomorrow, and all I can think of is your hotness, radiating out from the pixels on my monitor, seared straight into my neurons.

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Old 09/25/06, 2:02 PM   #21
Anias
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Originally Posted by Lord BEEF
Also of note is that improved tranquility makes it threatless which might be useful somehow
Unless they change it to not channel, I doubt it will ever be relevant.

First star to the right, and straight on till morning.
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Old 09/25/06, 2:04 PM   #22
Fola
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Undead Priest
 
Eredar
JoL and Improved Leader of the Pack combined with new class abilities to avoid AoEs is tremendous imo.

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Old 09/25/06, 2:10 PM   #23
Bibdy
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Basically everything you've probably already seen from the Alpha talents/spells.

There's always free cheese in the mouse traps, but the mice there ain't happy.

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Old 09/25/06, 2:11 PM   #24
Nurru
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Flight Form (Shapeshift)
Requires Level 68
498 Mana
3 sec cast
Transforms the Druid into a flight form, increasing movement speed by 60% and allowing you to fly. Can only use this form in Outland.

The act of shapeshifting frees the caster of Polymorph and Movement Impairing effects.
Unless the ability acts like a shift with a casting delay the bolded parts confuse me.

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Old 09/25/06, 2:14 PM   #25
Lord BEEF
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Wow I thought improved tranquility was 40/80% in live, not 50/100%. My bad.

Anyway for Kaubel, can't really copy/paste the changes, but you can at least see the position changes with this


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