• DeeNogger

I have always thought that +34 Frost damage is better for your frost bolt than +34 generic spell damage. Like the frost bolt got a greater increase from the 34 frost than just 34 damage and healing. I dont know where i heard this, and would just like to confirm if true or not.

If it is true, at what point does generic = specific. Like does 100 Frost = 133 generic (1/3 more benifical)? Thank you

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Nurru

On a frost spell +34 frost is as good as +34 generic damage.

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Oth

It is never 'better'.

The 'better' might stem from this: For two items of the same ilevel, you can get more +bonus for your budget if you pick the item with only one school of +damage. That is, if you had two same-level greens, and one was +30 damage/heal, the other will be like +40 frost.

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Bibdy

I expect its more like a 5:6 ratio in the budget, because the items that tend to have +frost, +fire or +shadow tend to have ONLY that damage, and nothing decent like crit or hit and a minimal amount of stamina and intellect.

Personally, I /roflwaffle at Destruction Warlocks who only take +fire gear.

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• Arawethion

The ratio is actually even lower than that, which is why +all tends to be the most commonly used gear for casters. For some reason, even though +school should provide more efficient itemization, it's rare that a +school piece is well-itemized enough to overcome the gap and be more worth wearing than other gear (Ringo's, Ring of the Eternal Flame).

It's near 34 to 40; look at the AV offhands.

Answers to Moonkin questions:
0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.

 

Kailhasa

Even post BC and the introduction of the 0/21/40 "ohmygawdthatsalottabonuses" spec?

Personally i'm looking forward to 'Sunfire' (+Fire/Arcane damage enchant) type stuff in BC, since I've never been a fan of frost. (That and the 'Soulfrost' Shadow/Frost enchant is just silly!)

 

snape

Leggings of the Festering Swarm > all other pants for Fire Mages (until Leggings of Polarity).

 

Northerner

I prefer Black Blizzard as a fire mage myself but hey, pick the pants you like.

+specific school would be a very powerful stats to put on items but it is generally overloaded and not paired with other useful things. +fire with a point of crit or +fire with +general would be very nice indeed but they are quite rare. Of course even as a fire mage I do spend a considerable amount of time using non-fire spells also on trash at least and I can't just discount that out of hand. Plus I hate to be even more gimped when I am facing a fire-immune/reflective target, even if the content is farm stuff.

 

Kasonic

I wish there were more items that min-maxed schools.

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• Arawethion

Having both (I looted Festering Swarm while I wasn't sure), and having to pick one to ZG enchant a few weeks ago, I went with Black Blizzard.

Answers to Moonkin questions:
0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.