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Old 10/19/06, 3:20 AM   #201
Crossbones
Don Flamenco
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Shattered Hand
Originally Posted by Chmee
I don't think it would be too unreasonable if engineers could use trinket slot items, but I sure hope not. This would still put some weight on taking engineering to stay competitive as there are too many items that could be tailored for different classes/specs. Think of how overpowering something like mind control would be in certain situations.
MC cap has a cooldown greater than 15 min. so is already out of the arena anyways.

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Old 10/19/06, 9:20 AM   #202
LadyVex
Great Tiger
 
Night Elf Priest
 
Elune
Originally Posted by Zurai
The ring enchants are really minor. +8 all stats (total between both rings) is the best you can get. 80 health, 120 mana, and some incredibly minor amount of DPS, basically.
+8 to helm and legs was all you used to be able to get before DM librams/ZG enchants and every darned high end raider has those.

It's still an ability to put extra stats where you couldn't before. I know I'll swap professions to do it but I still think it sucks that I'll have to.

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Old 10/19/06, 9:21 AM   #203
Maledict
Bald Bull
 
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Undead Mage
 
Bloodhoof (EU)
You can also get +12 to spell damage on each ring, and 24 extra spell damage is quite nice. It's a bigger reward than being exhaulted with ZG gets you.

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Old 10/19/06, 9:37 AM   #204
Axantucar
Von Kaiser
 
Human Paladin
 
Laughing Skull
Originally Posted by Valen
Well, it's likely that leatherworking gets to make high end leather armor pieces too.

Also i ponder how they gonna handle daggers. Those blacksmith weapons are really nice but no dagger is found so far.
There's a world drop recipe for a BoE epic dagger, stats were posted on the alpha forums but I can't seem to find them anymore.

Was called 'Dirge', 81 or so DPS, ~1.4 speed and some misc stats.

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Old 10/19/06, 10:03 AM   #205
Necrotoid
WoW Forums Refugee
 
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Undead Warlock
 
Lightning's Blade
Originally Posted by Maledict
You can also get +12 to spell damage on each ring, and 24 extra spell damage is quite nice. It's a bigger reward than being exhaulted with ZG gets you.
EXALTED!! DEFINITELY!! aarrrrgh!

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Old 10/19/06, 10:05 AM   #206
Cagalli
Piston Honda
 
Human Mage
 
Proudmoore
Originally Posted by Axantucar
Originally Posted by Valen
Well, it's likely that leatherworking gets to make high end leather armor pieces too.

Also i ponder how they gonna handle daggers. Those blacksmith weapons are really nice but no dagger is found so far.
There's a world drop recipe for a BoE epic dagger, stats were posted on the alpha forums but I can't seem to find them anymore.

Was called 'Dirge', 81 or so DPS, ~1.4 speed and some misc stats.
Here it is.

http://wow.cursebeta.com/en/database...s/23555/dirge/

http://ctprofiles.net/37645

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Old 10/20/06, 6:14 PM   #207
TheCrunkOne
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Warrior
 
Thunderlord
Finally got around back to this thread to see that Grenades aren't allowed in the Arena...Well, that settles it, goodbye engineering, hello Blacksmithing, because the Goblin Rocket Launcher just isn't enough to keep me away from Mooncleaver...

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Old 10/20/06, 7:47 PM   #208
Kody
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Kilrogg
Originally Posted by TheCrunkOne
Finally got around back to this thread to see that Grenades aren't allowed in the Arena...Well, that settles it, goodbye engineering, hello Blacksmithing, because the Goblin Rocket Launcher just isn't enough to keep me away from Mooncleaver...
We don't even know how hard it is to get those weapons. It's pretty silly to plan on dropping a profession that will be useful for the world pvp objectives(there are some really nice rewards through them) when the only information on those items is their stats.

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Old 10/20/06, 9:04 PM   #209
TheCrunkOne
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Warrior
 
Thunderlord
The mats are known if you check Thottbot Beta...And you get the plans straight from a blacksmith trainer.

http://worldofraids.free.fr/bc/Black...asterblade.jpg

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Old 10/20/06, 10:24 PM   #210
Vetinari
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Jubei'Thos
Keep in mind that having it on the trainer could only be a temporary solution, much like first aid at release.

Clearly intellect is not your primary stat.

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