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Old 10/03/06, 3:04 PM   #1
Legatio
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My guild is fairly new but we know we are mid teir and where that puts us on the totem, we encourage members that want to move on to do so just let us know and give us reasonable time to fill their slots, but lately we have had a huge turnover on druids because of other guilds scalping them, and yes they were targeted specificaly, lost 5 in 30 min to the same guild.

The problem is there just arent enough 60 druids on the server to go around, all the 60s seem to be rerolled core members of other guilds or feral pvpers, there are exactly 5 unguilded, active lvl 60 restos, 3 are questers, 1 i cant figure out what language he speaks, the other 1 just went thru a nasty guild break up and is thinking of quitting the game.

We thought about lowering our recruit cap to 50 but then we will still have to deal with gearing, attunning, etc, we have a few of our core members rerolling but without some serious power leveling thats will be 2+ weeks away and then they still have to learn2play the class. The question is, wth should we do? Im out of ideas just wondering if what you guys would do.

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Old 10/03/06, 3:13 PM   #2
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why did your druids leave in the first place?

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Old 10/03/06, 3:15 PM   #3
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I am sure there are more than 5 unguilded active druids.

If you feel you really want more druids, have people in your guild reroll to a druid.

Ask why the 5 druids left your guild for the same guild. Make changes so other people don't feel the same way.

Sorry for your situation, but there doesn't seem much you can do for the short-term.

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Old 10/03/06, 3:20 PM   #4
Legatio
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They went to a twin emp guild while we havent downed nef yet. Like i said we are very new, made up of alot of pp that took the summer off from raiding to fight burnout and get away from the summer break crowd.

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Old 10/03/06, 3:20 PM   #5
Dromakis
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On my server there was a time when Druids were neigh impossible to find and what happened was everyone who leveled an alt or was new rolled a druid and now there are a ton of them floating around. Class imbalance for your faction, if your server is anything like mine, should even itself out over time. It's not really a solution for you, but it is something to consider. Your problems are unlikely to go away until either A. The guilds poaching you no longer need druids, B. Your server rebalances classes naturally over time or C. You have some extremely loyal members re-roll druids..


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Old 10/03/06, 3:22 PM   #6
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Forced specs, lower priority on drops, burn-out - all potential reasons for druids to bail.

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Originally Posted by Legatio
They went to a twin emp guild while we havent downed nef yet.
Oops, and that.

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Old 10/03/06, 3:24 PM   #7
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When ever I take my restro druid into BGs for fun I get 2-3 guild offers for server transfers by the end of the night. One warrior that I was heal botting offered to pay my transfer fee. Druids seem to be short everywhere, doubly so for horde. I like to play mine for fun (you can't get much more opposite as far as classes go for a warlock then a druid) but I only want to raid with him part time.

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Old 10/03/06, 3:26 PM   #8
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Policy complaints or personal complaints (issues with the raid leader or some other authority figure) cause most guild defections. Have you tried asking your ex-Druids where their issues were so that you can correct them for future Druids?


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Old 10/03/06, 3:28 PM   #9
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Come advertise on Ursin. We have so many druids its disgusting. Never understood why everyone else says druids are underplayed, they must all be on my server.

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Old 10/03/06, 3:30 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Zeln
Originally Posted by frmorrison
I am sure there are more than 5 unguilded active druids.
Ahh, but he said resto druids. Sounds to me like if you want druids, time to get a little less picky about spec.
I think he's looking for healer druids, and I think he doesn't believe that current non-resto druids are willing to conform to that. Most active non-guilded feral/balance druids are usually PvPers or casuals and might not be raidmaterial in the first place.

Legatio, aside from the things you've said already, you might try cross server recruiting. I expect it to be a little more difficult for a "mid-tier" guild (what is that, like... Nefarian or something nowadays?) but the official recruitment board and druid forums might be a place to start. Surely there's a few decent resto druids out there looking for a home.

Oh and deffo get started on what caused them to move to another guild. Promises of more epics, being allowed to go off-specs, being allowed to loot certain items or just generally bummed out on how they were treated as healers in your guild?

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Old 10/03/06, 3:32 PM   #11
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With a server name like Ursin? Who'd've thunk?

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Old 10/03/06, 3:34 PM   #12
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I do not think that a guild in your position can mandate specs - or should do so. You are not a top guild on the bleeding edge of progression. The content you do does not require you to mandate specs. My druid was the only healer in scholo at level 56 with full feral spec and gear and we did not wipe once - not because I am that great but because the instance is easy. Any instance that can be pugged (and BWL is pugged these days) can be done with any spec.

Second, being a full resto druid means that you are probably a hardcore raider because you arent good for much else. My druid (now full resto) can't kill anything. If you are willing to spec for raid progression you would also join a progression guild. A longterm member should have enough loyalty to not jump on the first better guild knocking on his door but you cannot realistically expect a lot of loyalty from new recruits.

So, my advice would be. Don't talk about "resto spec" when recruiting druids. Recruit them and build loyalty. Make it clear that what matters is performance, not spec. By the time you hit hard content they will probably spec at least part resto because else they will fall behind.

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Old 10/03/06, 3:38 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Malan
Come advertise on Ursin. We have so many druids its disgusting. Never understood why everyone else says druids are underplayed, they must all be on my server.
I think there are a lot of druids, but few are played frequently. My guild has more druids than mages (even if you only count mains), yet I do not think there was a single raid ever with more druids. Many druids level to 60 and love their druid then they start raiding and realize that "hybrid" is spelled "healbot" in this game and quit or cut back. Further, many current druids are alts that were rolled after the druid patch and are not actively played.

So, while there is a sea of druids, there is a shortage of actively played raiding druids. I also get at least one guild invite per day of active play on my druid.

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Old 10/03/06, 3:42 PM   #14
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There are different types of feral and balance druids as well. One kind will always want to stay in cat form or as a moonkin doing loldps. They don't pick up healing gear and complain mightily (or flat-out refuse) when asked to heal. The other kind maintains multiple good sets of gear and is willing to fill whatever raid role they are needed for, be it DPS, off-tanking, healing, or some mix of both. If you prefer resto druids, but none are available, then you probably want to expand your search to include "off-spec" druids of the second kind. The first kind will only hurt you though.

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Old 10/03/06, 3:54 PM   #15
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Good raiding druids are plain hard to find. Cenarion Circle had something like ten, maybe twelve really high-caliber Horde druids in its entire history from launch to July 2006, during which it was one of the most populated servers in the game.

The fact that it's an RP server may have something to do with that, though...I am going to post a thread about my theory in this regard.

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