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Old 10/09/06, 2:47 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by LadyVex
Originally Posted by Nurru
I'm mostly hoping that every herb is useful in BC rather than the current game's reliance on Dreamfoil. S
Truer words were never spoken.

Some uses for golden sansam and arthas' tears would be welcome. Everytime I farm plaguebloom and dreamfoil i get a ton of that crap and usually end up throwing it away or just passing over it. Meanwhile I am carefully taking stock of my bags to get the 100+ dreamfoil I need for a couple weeks of instances, or maybe just a couple shots at Naxx bosses.

Ridiculous!
After farming lots and lots, I now subscribe to the theory that there are always going to be x herb spawns in a zone. Each time you pick an herb, another one grows. If there are 100 spawn points in a zone, 10 active, then each spawn point has a 1/91 chance to be the next one to pop up, regardless of which type was picked.

It *may* be a psychological flaw, but it really seems to me that the more I dont pass up other herbs, the more dreamfoil i get. The reasoning would be that if everyone picked dreamfoil and passed the other herbs, eventually 10/10 spawn points would be other herbs, which everyone passes over. If you start picking the 10 that are up, the new spawns have a chance at being dreamfoil.

At least, that's my understanding. Anyone have a better explanation, or proof of a different spawn system?

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Old 10/09/06, 2:49 PM   #27
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One of my guildmates is definitely convinced that picking the sungrass in Azshara increases the chance of a dreamfoil being there when she paths back around.

After a couple nights picking in Azshara, I can't say I disagree with her theory.

Melador> Incidentally, these last few pages are why people hate lawyers.
Viator> I really don't want to go all Kalman here.
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Clearly law school has done wonders for me.

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Old 10/09/06, 2:51 PM   #28
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I suppose this means I may have to actually pick Artha's Tears.

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Old 10/09/06, 2:54 PM   #29
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correct nurru, that's what I've been doing the past 6 months, and many arthas tears do indeed get destroyed for lack of bag space. and sungrass... oh how the decimation of sungrass and firebloom in the blasted lands in order to coax out the gromsblood is a bloody tale indeed.

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Old 10/09/06, 3:00 PM   #30
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On a related note, there is an Arthas Tears spawn near Naxxramas in Plaguewood that I'm fairly certain has not been picked on Tichondrius in a couple months. It's always there between wipes, it's there everytime I head to Naxx and it's always the same herb. It's almost comforting in its persistence. Tonight it shall meet its end however.

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Old 10/09/06, 3:02 PM   #31
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Thats the exact same way alot of mobs work. I can imagine blizzard use the same system for herbs, ores etc..

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Old 10/09/06, 3:18 PM   #32
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I pick every herb for that reason alone -- if I get rid of that Sungrass, Dreamfoil may respawn in another empty node.

To touch on something else regarding consumable use -- would be nice if bosses dropped more gold, BWL certainly wasn't bad for its time, but bosses in AQ40 and Naxx should be dropping more, don't you think?

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Old 10/09/06, 3:29 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by Kalman
One of my guildmates is definitely convinced that picking the sungrass in Azshara increases the chance of a dreamfoil being there when she paths back around.

After a couple nights picking in Azshara, I can't say I disagree with her theory.
Yeah, I would say its true from my experiences when I've been farming and the only one in Azshara I've been able to convert the entire zone into Sungrass after a while which is quite annoying. Same is true in Blasted Lands with Gromsblood.

You might as well pick them up since otherwise you will end up completing your loop before they are even suppoesd to respawn normally. (besides Sungrass + Blindweed makes cheap Superior Mana Potions which I chug all the time without really worrying about).

Originally Posted by Ravanaz
Thats the exact same way alot of mobs work. I can imagine blizzard use the same system for herbs, ores etc..
Hehe yeah I've turned all the potential mob spawns in WPL near the Bulwark from the spiders into bears when I was farming Ironwood Spider Silk

I need to do something useless.

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Old 10/09/06, 3:32 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by Ravanaz
My bet is that pots will be just the same in TBC as it is in Naxxramas now. You can't go without them.
Blizzard love stuff that takes alot of time. Either being big grinds, big farming or whatever. Time spent in WoW = money earned for blizzard. Until people reach the point where they burn out. Like around 10 or so people in our guild did, and lots more on the edge. But we all waiting to get the whole Naxx on farmstatus. In the meantime we farm those Dreamfoil, Fadeleaf, Grave Moss and all the other stuff.

No more consumables in outlands pretty please
How is timespent Money Earned for Blizzard? Ideally they would have you paying montly for WoW but never logging in. Its worst if you are on 24/7 picking herbs that only on just to soley raid at least till they convert to a pay/hour system or something :p

I need to do something useless.

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Old 10/09/06, 11:18 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by Drauk
Originally Posted by Nurru
I'm mostly hoping that every herb is useful in BC rather than the current game's reliance on Dreamfoil. S
Well, according to some of the datamined info, basically every single important flask/potion/elixir uses "Mana Thistle"
and imbued vials if this site is correct :-/
http://bcspy.bc.funpic.de/index.php?categoryid=24

No replacement for Mongoose either so far except for the insane 360ap flask

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Old 10/10/06, 12:18 AM   #36
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Going back to an earlier post, anyone know if the rumor is true that AP buffs will affect ranged once again?

The AP flask has me excited, but if nothing changes, yay rogues and warriors, stuff it hunters...again. ; ;

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Old 10/10/06, 12:25 AM   #37
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Originally Posted by LadyVex
Going back to an earlier post, anyone know if the rumor is true that AP buffs will affect ranged once again?

The AP flask has me excited, but if nothing changes, yay rogues and warriors, stuff it hunters...again. ; ;
Kalgan stated they will be going back through, but Not all melee AP buffs will increase RAP. He said if they did that then there would be no real reasonin having a RAP in the first place.

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Old 10/10/06, 12:39 AM   #38
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Why is there any reason now? Previously it was because you received 2 AP per 1 agi, but it's not like that anymore. :P

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Old 10/10/06, 4:30 AM   #39
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I really hope they dont add any rogue consumables. The AP flask is bad as it is ( oh...all rogues must get this flask tonight so we can kill Ilidan .. /sigh )

I understand the need for consumables ( it makes the top end guilds interact with the rest of the server... go around etc ) but i dont want to be like our priests / casters who spend 80% of their money on pots / consumables.

SO less rogue pots pls !

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Old 10/10/06, 4:34 AM   #40
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Bring more rogues instead of mages . Vanish !!!!!

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