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10/11/06, 3:16 PM
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Argent Dawn
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I was wondering how people are preparing to get a jump on XP for the expansion and what, if any, information folks have on the viability of gathering quest items for mass turn ins. I did a forums search and did not find a topic on this yet, so hopefully this is an acceptable topic.
My own strategy, thus far, has been to save all of the Quiraji Insignias from our AQ40 runs, gather/hoarde PvP medals and keep several end game quests ready for turn in (AQ scepter quest line, etc.). I figure this should give me a good jump into 61, perhaps even giving a level right off if we "save" our rested xp.
I know this is not the place for rumor-mongering, but I did see a quote (supposedly from the WoW main boards (I can not confirm as that is blocked by our WebSense)) that indicated that Blizzard would be taking at least some measure to thwart "XP hoarding"
Here is the quote:

There was new functionality for quest abandoning added in 1.12.1 that will destroy any items related to the quest as soon as it is abandoned. The note for this didn?t make it in time for the patch, and we?re currently in the process of approving the final revision for the web notes.
This was mainly done to curb some of the experience hording for this expansion, and any future expansions to come. We want to ensure people are leveling at an appropriate pace and not using quests which were not initially designed with an expansion in mind to move past 61-70 levels as quickly as possible. This is one of a few steps to attempt to limit the benefit players will receive from planning level progression through pre-expansion quests and turn-ins.
Although not the main purpose of the implementation, this will also help with cases of items remaining from quests taking up inventory space, which we've probably all experienced to some annoying degree. It?s not certain at this time if removing collected items that are dependant upon a time-limited item is intended. Fortunately there are not too many quests that would be affected by that.
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As stated, it would prevent people from gathering quests, getting the necessary items to drop, then abandoning the quest in favor of another to do the same thing. I wonder if they will go farther and remove the XP for things like insignia turn ins, or leave them alone.
Anyway, feel free to share your strategies!
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~F
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10/11/06, 3:18 PM
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Von Kaiser
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I have no strategy really as I don't want to skip content. 1-60 was a great experience and I wouldn't have liked to level through wsg insignias for example, especially the first time.
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10/11/06, 3:24 PM
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King Hippo
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Aparently most of the existing repeatable turn ins wont give xp past 60.
Stuff like:
- Scourgestones
- Qiraji Lord Insignias
- Hakkari Coins/Bijous/Tokens
- Etc.
I also agree that my first time going from 1-60 was one of the best gaming experiences I've had. If 60-70 is more of the same I certainly wont be looking for shortcuts.
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10/11/06, 3:24 PM
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Death Knight
Stormscale
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I could have sworn that this was already discussed In a few threads. If I am mistaken then let me tell you what the assumption is. You will get XP the first time you turn it in, then it will just be your standard repeatable for rep quest. A month or so ago I built up 19 elite quests and saved them in my quest log all at (COMPLETE) but I got bored one day and turned them all in.
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10/11/06, 3:25 PM
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#5
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Warrior-Poet
Igniferroque
Dwarf Priest
No WoW Account
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Have any guilds discussed their levelling rates among their membership? I know some people are planning on doing it leisurely but I imagine a number of people are going to level up asap.
Have any guilds set time frame expectations for their members?
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Ignie Ferroque translates from latin to "with fire & with sword." It is a stock phrase used to describe the results of a destructive raid into an enemy's territory, whose sole purpose is to generate fear, terror, and destruction.
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10/11/06, 3:26 PM
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Don Flamenco
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Do you really think they're going to leave the AQ40 insignias at 6600 experience apiece? Too many people know about it, and too many people have enough of them to make significant progress into 61.
Also, rest experience for level 60s mysteriously vanished a couple patches ago. Kinda sad, but to be perfectly honest I'm not going to be in any rush to hit 70 anyway.
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10/11/06, 3:27 PM
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Great Tiger
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There was also a post by Caydiem at one point stating that quests we can receive and do now won't yield the same amount of experience past 60, so don't hoard your quests.
I'm not hoarding at all. Turning the quests I do have for gold now and doing the TBC quests later. You're going to have one person in your group who did every higher end quest imaginable anyways so powerleveling to 70 won't really be a problem; someone will be behind.
Besides, leveling in this game is a damned joke. :p
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10/11/06, 3:29 PM
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#8
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by Felthorn
(I can not confirm as that is blocked by our WebSense))
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www.bywhat.com
Personally I want to experience everything as well, and with the nerfing of quest items I think Blizzard is squashing this powerleveling bug before it gets off the ground.
I plan to immediately start running Hellfire Ramparts once I get to Outland.
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10/11/06, 3:33 PM
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#9
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Argent Dawn
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Again, my apolgies if this was already discussed, but my search did not yield any results. Perhaps my query was flawed.
In any event, personally I am not so sure I'll be able to enjoy the new content at release anyway, due to the sheer number of people who will be swarming the zones from jumpstreet. I'd like to prepare a bit, gather some xp-yielding quests/turn-ins/etc. and grind decent xp from 53-60th mobs in what very well might be completely abandoned "old" zones. . .at least until things settle down a bit in Outland.
I was there for the opening of the gates on our sever. . .and while the potential for huge fun was definately there, being kicked off the server due to lag and other performance related issues (having so many people in one place) definately killed it for me.
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~F
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10/11/06, 3:42 PM
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#10
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Piston Honda
Myonax
Orc Warlock
No WoW Account
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That quote is scary, I too have been saving insignias but it sounds like that is something they don't want to happen. I would be very disapoining if they opted to not alow repeatable quest to give exp post 60.
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10/11/06, 3:52 PM
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NFARSMASH!
Worgen Warlock
Bleeding Hollow
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Originally Posted by Kasonic
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Originally Posted by Felthorn
(I can not confirm as that is blocked by our WebSense))
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www.bywhat.com
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"The Websense category "Proxy Avoidance" is filtered."
Websense is such a bitch.
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10/11/06, 3:53 PM
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#12
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Von Kaiser
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I feel as though I'm in the minority here but I'm REALLY looking forward to leveling up. I dont want to go so fast that I miss alot of the content/storyline elements. When I leveled my first toon I did it super fast and didnt really 'stop to smell the flowers', if you will, but on my second toon I really enjoyed doing quests and dungeon crawls for xp and really got more into the storyline. As a result I started to enjoy the game on a different level.
I'm excited for this in the xpac. I want to hit all the 5 man's, and do alot of quests. I'm not in any particular hurry to level, but that will be tempered by the amount of time I will budget to play. I'll get to 70 and back to raiding soon enough.. but what good is it to be the first one there? Great, now you get to wait around for everyone else...
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10/11/06, 3:56 PM
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#13
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Don Flamenco
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I swear there was a post where they hinted that they were watching how much xp people had banked up in turnins, but I can't find any reference to it now.
That being said, last rumor I heard was that you could still do turnins in alpha.
Qiraji Lord insignia's are only 3300 btw, it's the artifacts that are 6600. If they're not going to let us turn them in come expansion for xp; the least they could do is attach a decent gold reward to them, it'd balance out the crappy AQ40 gold drops.
Even if Lord insignias can be turned in, I'd strongly wager that, despite everyone claiming they'll help kill Skeram on TBC:Day 1, they're all off going to be running around outlands & playing with new talents and won't make the hike down to Silithus to kill him.
That all being said, I'm still sitting on my stash, just incase!
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10/11/06, 3:58 PM
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The Howard Roark of Shipwrights
Avair
Human Rogue
No WoW Account
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I would be very disapoining if they opted to not alow repeatable quest to give exp post 60.
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Blizzard and many other would be disappointed if an hour after TBC launches, all of the hardcore raiding guilds had players at level 62 because they had been hording AQ40 tokens for 6 months.
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10/11/06, 4:00 PM
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#15
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Mind the gap.
Malan
Tauren Shaman
No WoW Account
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Blizz already had a CM confirm that once Xpack is live the Qiraji insignias won't be usable for XP for anyone at lvl 60.
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10/11/06, 4:07 PM
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Great Tiger
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Blizzard should be over shell-shock by now and they've had a few levelling contests to try and get a feel for just how fast the hardcore players will make 70. As usual though, I don't doubt for a moment that come classes/builds/group-compositions will far outstrip even those expectations. I haven't really tested it out too much obviously but specced for levelling and even in current gear (and buffed with some light to heavy consumables) the amount of exp/hour I could pull down grinding is pretty insane assuming I can find any spawn areas that support it.
Like many though, I intend to level to 70 asap and then work on either the paladin twink or the army of alts. I do very much look forward to the 60-70 content but I'm quite willing to hit it up on alts at a later time as the 70 raiding content is simply a bigger draw for me overall. Doing that content while it is still relatively unknown is far more entertaining I find.
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10/11/06, 4:07 PM
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Bald Bull
Undead Death Knight
Twisting Nether (EU)
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Not like it would matter for 95% of the people tho. I mean, it's not like 2levels worth of xp or whatever people have saved up would make more than a day of difference for hardcore players. Only thing I see is it might make lower lvl zones less full of tier3 geared people on PvP servers, which might not be that bad.
However I still think they will remove the turns in xp come the expansion, just so people HAVE TO enjoy their new content they took so long to create. I guess some people will still probably grind their way to 70 without doing quests, but whatever. It could be considered an "unfair" advantage for new players and casuals compared to big PvE guilds who already benefit from having better gear to level with too, which I personally don't care about(hell I'm rerolling a blood elf that's how much I care about my gear ^^), but reading general board, is a big subject of discussion. I mean, on the same subject, they're removing rested xp from 60 to 70-and subsequently the rested xp every current 60 have), so why would they allow various turn ins?
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10/11/06, 4:08 PM
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The beatings will stop once morale improves
Nurru
Undead Priest
No WoW Account
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I haven't even bothered looting insignias since hitting Exalted because I felt they would be crazy to let them be worth XP.
Plus, who wants to kill Skeram when BC is released? "Ok guys, instead of going to hellfire peninsula we're heading to AQ40".
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10/11/06, 4:17 PM
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KIND OF A BIG DEAL
Night Elf Hunter
Ner'zhul
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insignias won't give xp.
i've been making sure i have 20 of every BG token and completing quests where i can. honestly, the travel time for a lot of quest turn-ins won't be worth it. in the time it takes to fly around the world and turn in your 20 random quests, you probably could've grinded out that much XP in hellfire citadel.
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10/11/06, 4:22 PM
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Von Kaiser
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As of 1.12 if you gather quest items and abandon a quest you lose the quest items. Added for the sole purpose of TBC.
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http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?84880
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10/11/06, 4:23 PM
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Bald Bull
Drauk
Human Mage
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by Avair
Blizzard and many other would be disappointed if an hour after TBC launches, all of the hardcore raiding guilds had players at level 62 because they had been hording AQ40 tokens for 6 months.
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Well, currently lvl 61 is something like 450k xp, with 3300 xp per insignas thats 137 insignas to level 61, thats quite a lot. Getting to 61 with insignas will be possible, but not to 62.
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Originally Posted by Malan
Blizz already had a CM confirm that once Xpack is live the Qiraji insignias won't be usable for XP for anyone at lvl 60.
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Link ?
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Originally Posted by zeidrich
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10/11/06, 4:26 PM
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KIND OF A BIG DEAL
Night Elf Hunter
Ner'zhul
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Originally Posted by Drauk
Well, currently lvl 61 is something like 450k xp, with 3300 xp per insignas thats 137 insignas to level 61, thats quite a lot. Getting to 61 with insignas will be possible, but not to 62.
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i think you're drastically underestimating the number of insignias that people who have been running aq40 since january can have :-P
just as a point of reference, people might've noticed the turn in quests for the old BG tokens were removed a few patches ago. those were another case of infinitely stacking XP generators that were cleaned up, likely due to the impending expansion.
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10/11/06, 5:03 PM
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#23
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Glass Joe
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I'm almost exalted with CH from insignias only :D These things do tend to really pile up on you.
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10/11/06, 5:08 PM
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#24
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Piston Honda
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Why do people even bother discussing this? It's like worrying about where the best place to log out will be on the day a new raid zone comes out.
Does anyone really care (or remember) who hit 60 first 2 years ago? Did those first 60s have any real advantage in any way? No. What people should be worrying about is which raid instances to go after first when you do hit 70. There's going to be too much content and not a lot of clear ways to prioritize.
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10/11/06, 5:10 PM
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Great Tiger
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Hey I camped in Velketor's Labyrinth the day Shadows of Luclin came out and upon logging in killed one crystalline spider and bam, dinged 61. :P
It's just how it is. Some people will try to powerlvl to 70 in order to get their raid fully functioning again, while some will sit back without it being so pressing.
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