...which is one of the several reasons why i -personaly- think ehn/resto is a better raid build. i was trying to point out that ED is what makes going into elemental worth considering for a raiding enhance shaman.

Nature's Guidance is an awesome talent. Learn it. Love it.

Even for PvP the shock talents are weak when you get down to it. The only one really worth getting is the cooldown one and between Grounding and ES already being sweet I think it has, at most, marginal utility.

edit: ED is just a weak talent without absolutely perfect gear for it. It alone isn't worth dumping points into Ele over Resto.

If elemental devastation worked with flametongue like many of the other elemental talents do, it might be decent.

As of the latest patch, Unleashed Rage procs from WF crits.

Man this stuff seems to change so often and there is so much misinformation going around.

We should fill out a final check sheet with True/False next to all the combinations of what can and cannot proc which effects.

<White swing>
Flurry: True
UR: True
SR: True

<Windfury Proc>
Flurry: True
UR: True(?)
SR: False(?)

<StormStrike>
Flurry: True
UR: (?)
SR: False

I thought I knew the answers to all of these but I spent yesterday as elemental and was not paying too much attention :(

If any of these are for sure wrong let me know and I will update but I will also test these all tonight I think hehe.

Ooooo hawt hawt hawt!

if it stays that way, this gives a lot more room for priorities other than weapon speed and crit on enhance gear, which is indirectly a dps buff, since slower weapons will give you more damage out of the non-normalized stormstrike. (although it further increases the relative importance of weapon speed over critrate.) i guess we'll see how long it lasts.

Having a bit of a discussion over Stormstrike so I'm asking for a clarification: is SS affected by weapon speed normalization in beta? Live tooltip talks about "extra attack" while the new tooltip says "instantly attacks".

edit: guess the answer was right before my eyes.

i *think* it's not normalized, but i am by no means an authority on the subject, and i am not in beta, so don't take my word for it.