How to handle lag spikes? - Page 2

dojke · 10/18/06, 5:45 AM

Originally Posted by Chicken

Originally Posted by Quigon

Originally Posted by sp00n

Oh well.
Yesterday 2 hours wipe and lag fest before we decided that it was just waste of time.
Today only 33 people out of 75 online.
And tomorrow a 36 hour maintenance until thurday 5pm which will hopefully resolve the lag problems. >.<

It won't - its not until the third maintenance that this gets "Fixed"... in fact it was worse for us each time they upgraded until the third and final maintenance... I think the 36 hour one is the 2nd set.

I think they're handling the upgrades somewhat differently in Europe. I'm playing on one of the servers that's had two of those upgrade maintenances now, and since then it's been running as smooth as it can be.

We've noticed absolutely no improvement between before/after our 36hr maintenance. This is euro.

Pleun · 10/18/06, 5:46 AM

Originally Posted by Quigon

Originally Posted by sp00n

Oh well.
Yesterday 2 hours wipe and lag fest before we decided that it was just waste of time.
Today only 33 people out of 75 online.
And tomorrow a 36 hour maintenance until thurday 5pm which will hopefully resolve the lag problems. >.<

It won't - its not until the third maintenance that this gets "Fixed"... in fact it was worse for us each time they upgraded until the third and final maintenance... I think the 36 hour one is the 2nd set.

According to what I read somewhere on the official boards they're only doing 2 36h hardware maintenances, rather than 1 60h one, no talks about a 3rd one. Makes me wonder why they couldn't do 1 of these when they moved their servers around to make their PvP Battlegroups. Oh well, not the end of the world, although it wouldn't hurt to inform us about this faster, again our raid schedule for next week messed up.

• sp00n · 10/18/06, 6:02 AM

Let's hope for the best.
At least our raid schedule isn't screwed, we just drop BWL for this week and on thursday we would have had our day off anyway.

• sp00n · 10/31/06, 6:13 AM

So, it's not getting better, rather it's getting worse.
The problem really seems to be the peering between the European hoster for the servers, Telia, and the German Telekom, former monopolist and still biggest provider in Germany.
Someone in the German forums posted a mail conversation with a guy from Telia, who pointed out that Telia and Telekom can't agree on a upgrade of their peering, whatever, and that it will take likely until January until the pings get better. Oo
Just wonder why it happened so suddenly out of nowhere. The latency was fine, then it just skyrocketed.

I have made two screenshots of raiding nights with PingPlotter, it's basically a graphical UI for traceroute.
This is a quite good night, no disconnect and only very few lagspikes:
http://sp00n.pytalhost.com/misc/eu.l...rcraft.com.png

And this is only one day later, at least one disconnect per boss fight and horrible lagspikes:
http://sp00n.pytalhost.com/misc/eu.l...craft.com2.png

The red strokes are packet losses on the first/second hop after resp. before the peering from Telia to Telekom. The ping itself is fine, it's the packet losses that cause the lagspikes and disconnects. The higher the lines, the more packet loss occured. It just sucks.

Meanwhile I have found an... er, creative solution for at least my problems. I have installed a socks proxy on another computer with a different connection, independant from the Telekom. I then use SocksCap to connect to that proxy to bypass the terrible Telekom peering.
Pings are now around 300ms, but finally no frigging lagspikes and disconnects anymore.
Just wish the rest of my guild had the opportunity to just switch over. :(

Polleke · 10/31/06, 7:39 AM

Originally Posted by Chicken

I think they're handling the upgrades somewhat differently in Europe. I'm playing on one of the servers that's had two of those upgrade maintenances now, and since then it's been running as smooth as it can be.

You should remember that we are on a server with a fairly small raiding community compared to some other. We're bassicly talking about 2.5 guilds horde side and 4 guilds alliance side in Naxx. Our server never had extreme lag issues (asside from a few of those weird weeks in april this year).