warnpeace

I usually just troll the boards, and saw a bit about this mentioned in the Rogue BC talents thread, but I thought it deserved it's own thread to examine it further.

The object of our studies: New Rogue Talent "Combat Potency" - * Where Blade Twisting was. 5 ranks that "Gives your successful off-hand melee attacks a 20% chance to generate 3/6/9/12/15 Energy."

Now, what I am trying to find out here is, assuming you keep all your current gear but take it to level 70. How much of a DPS increase is this talent? I know my math is very rough, and I didn't include anything on misses/dodge/parry/glancing blows, but these are some of the numbers I got just for the number of procs in a 3 minute fight.

DFB 1.8 Speed
Swings in 600 seconds : 333.33
Swings in 600 seconds w/ SnD: 433
Procs in 600 Seconds : 86.6
Energy Gained : 1290
Extra BS from Energy: 21.5
Extra SS from Energy: 32.25
Extra Hemo from Energy: 36.857

Warblade of the Hakkari 1.7 Speed
Swings in 600 seconds : 352.9411
Swings in 600 seconds w/ SnD: 458
Procs in 600 Seconds : 91.6
Energy Gained : 1365
Extra BS from Energy: 22.75
Extra SS from Energy: 34.125
Extra Hemo from Energy: 39

Core Hound Tooth 1.6 Speed
Swings in 600 seconds : 375
Swings in 600 seconds w/ SnD: 487
Procs in 600 Seconds : 97.5
Energy Gained : 1455
Extra BS from Energy: 24.25
Extra SS from Energy: 36.375
Extra Hemo from Energy: 41.571

and of course

Julies Dagger 1.3 Speed
Swings in 600 seconds : 461.5384
Swings in 600 seconds w/ SnD: 600
Procs in 600 Seconds : 120
Energy Gained : 1800
Extra BS from Energy: 30
Extra SS from Energy: 45
Extra Hemo from Energy: 51.428

What I propose is that someone who is a lot better than me makes a "standard equipment set" and do the actual match to see the exact numbers for how much the extra energy boosts you. I'm also interested in seeing how much of a difference there is in between something with bad dps, but excellent speed, verses something that has better dps but is a bit slower. How much dps is worth losing for each .1 sec of swing speed?

Also I'm interested in seeing the math comparing this new talent to the potential DPS of Mutilate if anyone can figure the math out on that one.

Thank in advance guys. ^_^

*Sorry for the random decimal numbers. I'll cut them out later when I'm not so tired.*
**Also I realize this doesn't take into effect DR, +hit, etc. Hopefully someone else can toss those in when they do the standard armor set calculations**
***Standard Armor 8/8 BF. Mostly BWL gear I think to be "average."***

 

probiscus

This would probably be a good bump to this thread:

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewt...hp?id=6692&p=1

Which delves (in greater detail) into rogue damage mechanics - it seems to me that's basically what you're looking for.

Also, I was perusing the thread below and it seems that there was some discussion going on w/r/t the practical applications of Combat Potency that you might be interested in:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...34964965&sid=1