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Old 10/18/06, 5:18 PM   #1
Jaete
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Shopping list:

120 copper bar
20 malachite
20 shadowgem
160 coarse stone
20 bronze bar (= 10 copper bar, 10 tin bar)
80 silver bar
15 jade
80 heavy stone
40 iron bar
70 gold bar
20 citrine
35 aquamarine
60 mithril bar
50 truesilver bar
45 star ruby
295 thorium bar
40 large opal
20 huge emerald
10 large fang
50 flask of mojo
20 powerful mojo
20 essence of earth


What to do:

skill 1-30ish: 60 delicate copper wire (needs: 120 copper bar)
skill 30ish-50: malachite pendant until skill 50 (needs: 1 malachite, 1 delicate copper wire each)

skill 50-70: 20 coarse stone statue (needs: 160 coarse stone)
skill 70-80: 10 elegant silver ring (needs: 20 silver bar)
skill 80-110: 30 ring of silver might (needs: 60 silver bar)

skill 110-120: 10 heavy stone statue (needs: 80 heavy stone)
skill 120-130: 10 ring of twilight shadows (needs: 20 shadowgem, 20 bronze bar)
skill 130-135: 5 barbaric iron collar (needs: 10 large fang, 40 iron bar, 10 delicate copper wire)
skill 135-150: 15 golden dragon ring (needs: 15 jade, 30 gold bar, 30 delicate copper wire)

skill 150-180: 30 mithril filigree (needs: 60 mithril bar)
skill 180-200: 20 engraved truesilver ring (needs: 40 gold bar, 20 truesilver bar)
skill 200-210: 10 truesilver commander's ring (needs: 30 truesilver bar, 20 star ruby, 20 citrine)
skill 210-220: 10 aquamarine signet (needs: 30 aquamarine, 40 flask of mojo)
skill 220-225: 5 aquamarine pendant of the warrior (needs: 5 aquamarine, 10 flask of mojo, 15 mithril filigree)

skill 225-235ish: 55 thorium setting (needs: 165 thorium bar)
skill 235ish-260: ruby pendant of fire until 260 (needs: 1 star ruby, 1 thorium setting each)
skill 260-280: 20 simple opal ring (needs: 40 large opal, 40 thorium bar, 20 thorium setting)
skill 280-290: 10 onslaught ring (needs: 20 powerful mojo, 20 essence of earth, 80 thorium bar)
skill 290-300: 10 emerald lion ring (needs: 20 huge emerald, 10 thorium bar, 10 thorium setting)

skill 300: /dance ^_^


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http://photobucket.com/albums/o195/jaete/

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Old 10/18/06, 5:48 PM   #2
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Funny timing, just this morning I was reading a post over on the official forums about powerleveling JC from 0-305.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...35793822&sid=1

His numbers are quite different from yours; he says he only uses Vendor trainable items as means of skilling up, I suppose that's the difference?

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Old 10/18/06, 6:19 PM   #3
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Lol, figures that as soon as I decide to post about it, someone else does too. :)

In my post that there's exactly one thing that's not vendor trainable (in the current beta), and I also provided a "plan B" that uses a vendor trainable one instead, in case you don't get that recipe.

Lists like this are just "favourites" really, I happened to have a lot of rough stone etc so I decided to use that, meanwhile the WoW forums guy chose to use copper. There's obviously lots of ways to do it and as long as you get to 300 it's all fine.

Also keep in mind that the current beta is indeed a beta, which means things may change, even drastically, between now and release. For example, they might well choose to make Ring of Silver Might harder to make, make some of the later recipes limited supply or drop only, etc. That's why I'm still gonna be hoarding lots of extra ore, stones and gems in addition to my shopping list. ;)

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Old 10/18/06, 6:22 PM   #4
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I only see 1 recipe on thottbot at all that uses Azerothian Diamonds? Hrm guess my balanced 'hoard everything' has a weak spot, and not enough copper and rough stone . . .

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Old 10/18/06, 6:25 PM   #5
Torael_7
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This is pretty awesome, since even a rough shopping list is nice to have...I think I'll copy them both and compare ease of leveling.

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Old 10/18/06, 9:53 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Jaete
you won't get skillups from prospecting after skill 70 (according to Thottbot - this I haven't actually verified).
Confirmed. Prospecting stops levelling at 70.
My character got a bug where she prospected ore unsucessfully (no consumption of materials or production of gems), but still got skill-ups.
It slowed at 60 (presumably green at that point) and stopped entirely at 70.

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Old 10/19/06, 10:50 AM   #7
Raieth
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I can't wait to try this after TBC is launched!

I guess most of the good stuff comes from the Outlands however, so Il close my eyes at this point and ensure theres something at the end for me to find out myself.

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Old 10/21/06, 11:17 PM   #8
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Updated the list; made a few minor optimizations and cleaned up the formatting.

All this was verified by yours truly a few hours ago on the beta. :) Of course changes can and will happen before the launch, this being the beta and all. I'll report on any changes if I see them.

Currently uploading the screenshots, should be there in a few minutes.

The grand master jewelcrafting trainers (who will teach you master jewelcrafting, allowing skill up to 375) are in Honor Hold / Thrallmar, they also have some recipes, but I don't know which recipes will still be available from them in the release. Other than that I don't know much about jewelcrafting past 300... yet. ;)

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Old 10/21/06, 11:37 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Jaete
Updated the list; made a few minor optimizations and cleaned up the formatting.

All this was verified by yours truly a few hours ago on the beta. :) Of course changes can and will happen before the launch, this being the beta and all. I'll report on any changes if I see them.

Currently uploading the screenshots, should be there in a few minutes.

The grand master jewelcrafting trainers (who will teach you master jewelcrafting, allowing skill up to 375) are in Honor Hold / Thrallmar, they also have some recipes, but I don't know which recipes will still be available from them in the release. Other than that I don't know much about jewelcrafting past 300... yet. ;)
I'm at 335 atm (miners aren't sending me as many gems or ore anymore /sad) and what I've noticed 300+

The name of the game at 330+ is gems. Lots of gems. Oodles of gems. Mountains of gems. The entire craft shifts from jewelry making to gem cutting.

The recipies off the honor hold vendor, with the exception of 3, are all white recipies which would (generally) indicate that they will be purchasable somewhere without rep. It's easy to skill up to 330 if you've got a massive stockpile of outlands gems (and ONLY OUTLANDS GEMS. Don't start thinking you can cut an azeroth gem into anything). I highly recommend being a 300 miner the day you zone into outlands and mining everything you see on your way to level 70 and sending it off to a bank alt until you can use it unless you've got thousands of gold to purchase them off the AH or incredibly generous friends. I've had 2 miners supplying me with every gem they mine and every instance group I'm in is passing gems to me, and I've seen maybe 50? gems. Unfortunelty at 335 I hit the same green wall that I hit in tailoring- the cheap gem patterns are all green and I've only got 2 expensive jewelry patterns to level on. (With tailoring everything that's yellow- no orange- either requires Spellthread, which isn't in game, or primal earth in VERY large quantities.)

Also, for those interested, the Aldor have a Grand Master Jewelcrafter in Shattrath. (In Aldor Rise on the opposite side as the inn). He can teach you everything that the trainer in Exodar and Honor Hold can and is in a fairly central location for levelers. You must be friendly with the Aldor to speak to him (Horde would have to faction up- alliance start friendly). Also both the Aldor and the Scryers have one jewelcrafting each that you can purchase at friendly (and additional ones at honored and revered). If you're horde be sure to pick up and train your Scryer recipie before you do any quests for the Aldor! ^.^

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Old 10/22/06, 10:00 AM   #10
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hmm wonder just how many people will end up doing JC because of these....hmmmm


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Old 10/22/06, 10:17 AM   #11
Mordekhuul
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Have you guys seen any recipes for BoP items that are worth using? With the addition of ring enchantments, enchanting is mighty attractive, and I wonder what if anything Jewelcrafters will have to keep their interest strong.

I'll be a jewelcrafter, no doubt - just curious if they have implemented any truly strong JC only recipes yet -)

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Old 10/22/06, 11:39 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Mordekhuul
Have you guys seen any recipes for BoP items that are worth using? With the addition of ring enchantments, enchanting is mighty attractive, and I wonder what if anything Jewelcrafters will have to keep their interest strong.

I'll be a jewelcrafter, no doubt - just curious if they have implemented any truly strong JC only recipes yet -)
Nothing that I've looked at and said to myself "I must have this". To be 100% truthful, while I'll keep leveling it on beta religiously since so many people have contributed to helping me- I don't think I'll be taking it on live unless something amazing happens between 335 and 375. I'm already considering my materials stash and wondering how much it could contribute to my epic flying mount...

Those of you who volunteered to be injected with praying mantis DNA, I've got some good news and some bad news.
Bad news is we're postponing those tests indefinitely. Good news is we've got a much better test for you: fighting an army of mantis men.
Pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. You'll know when the test starts.

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Old 10/22/06, 1:19 PM   #13
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nobody has had a chance to see recipees in 3 of the new zones, or the actual cuts you can do. That's where the trade's value comes in.

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Old 10/22/06, 5:53 PM   #14
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You can get to level 300 at Lvl 60 still?

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Old 10/23/06, 10:39 AM   #15
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It all looks pretty cheap until about skill 270, at which point you go from stuff like "star ruby and 3 thorium" and "2 truesilver and 4 heart of the wild" to "2 large opal and 5 thorium" as the cheapest thing available... and that goes yellow at 280.

I see that the Primal Stone Statue is listed on thottbot as going yellow at 300. Is that recipe available before you hit 300? From what we're hearing about the availability of primals, a single primal earth per skill up is probably going to be a ton easier than locating a metric ton of living essences and large emeralds for those 10 points leading up to 300.

Incidentally, even without knowing what the figurine - black diamond crab DOES, I have to have a bit of a chuckle at the mats. It's like they noticed people asking about the use of black diamonds and azerothian diamonds and arcanite and figured they'd get it over with all at once (and in large quantities).

It also seems odd that there's a recipe in the thott list that goes yellow at 320 and requires a flame spessarite (http://thottbot.com/beta?i=3340) , yet makes a level 56 blue ring that's inferior to the Ring of Spell Power from MC. Are the cuttable gems dropping at all from rich thorium in Azeroth? http://thottbot.com/beta?i=9525 is also a post-300 recipe that makes a level 56 blue item, but at least it only uses Azeroth materials.

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Old 10/23/06, 10:57 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by ParisTeta
You can get to level 300 at Lvl 60 still?
You can get to 300 in any profession at level 35. I don't think this has changed since...well, a long time.

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Old 10/23/06, 12:50 PM   #17
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I have most of the stuff in this guide now. I keep on thinking to myself now is it worth taking? I have 300 enchanting and am now working (almost there) 300 mining. Which two professions should I keep at the end of the day?

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Old 10/23/06, 1:00 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by Pono
Originally Posted by ParisTeta
You can get to level 300 at Lvl 60 still?
You can get to 300 in any profession at level 35. I don't think this has changed since...well, a long time.
The Jewelcrafting trainers are located in new zones, though, which aren't available to players who haven't purchased expansion. I think.


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Old 10/23/06, 1:26 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Bury
The Jewelcrafting trainers are located in new zones, though, which aren't available to players who haven't purchased expansion. I think.
The Exodar and Silvermoon jewelcrafters can be visited by players without BC. But they won't be able to get the profession.

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Old 10/23/06, 2:57 PM   #20
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Didn't someone in the Q&A thread say that Exodar and Silvermoon and the level 10-15 zones were instanced, or at least you had to zone to get to them from Azeroth? I figured they'd be on the same servers as outlands and therefore unavailable to anyone without BC.

Edit: Found it here, the server capacity thread:
It's correct. You "zone" when you take the boat from Auberdine to the Draenei island. You also have to zone through a portal in Eastern Plaguelands to get to the Ghostlands. It's essentially a block to keep non-expansion players out of those new areas in a seamless world.

An easy way to notice this is to go to Exodar as a mage, and get the portal spell. Now if your heart is set somewhere in Outland, use it. You won't zone at all, you'll just get the loading lag of rendering the new area you hearth to like you do when hearthing from Ironforge to Light's Hope Chapel.
If this is still true anyone who doesn't buy BC will not be able to get to Exodar or Silvermoon and therefore won't be able to jewelcraft regardless. Only way to get crafted jewelcrafting gear will be the AH, which automatically makes Jewelcrafting pretty profitable doesn't it? Built in user base and all that.

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Old 10/23/06, 3:30 PM   #21
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Supply and demand. Not just demand. Two sides to the equation. What makes most professions unprofitable isn't the lack of demand, its the overabundance of supply. The best way to make money with professions is get a rare drop, milk the hell out of it, and then move on to something else. Jewelcrafting will be a huge money sink except for the ones who get the lucky rare drops from the Outlands world or instance drops.

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Old 10/23/06, 5:12 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Ukerric
Originally Posted by Bury
The Jewelcrafting trainers are located in new zones, though, which aren't available to players who haven't purchased expansion. I think.
The Exodar and Silvermoon jewelcrafters can be visited by players without BC. But they won't be able to get the profession.
Oh, I didn't know that old players could visit new zones? I know the Exodar and Silvermoon zones appear to be on the Outlands server, because people there crash when Outlands crash :P


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Old 10/23/06, 5:38 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Bury
Originally Posted by Ukerric
Originally Posted by Bury
The Jewelcrafting trainers are located in new zones, though, which aren't available to players who haven't purchased expansion. I think.
The Exodar and Silvermoon jewelcrafters can be visited by players without BC. But they won't be able to get the profession.
Oh, I didn't know that old players could visit new zones? I know the Exodar and Silvermoon zones appear to be on the Outlands server, because people there crash when Outlands crash :P
They cannot. This has been confirmed by blue a couple of times.

Players must upgrade to TBC to level jewelcrafting or to visit any of the outlands or starting areas for the new races.

Those of you who volunteered to be injected with praying mantis DNA, I've got some good news and some bad news.
Bad news is we're postponing those tests indefinitely. Good news is we've got a much better test for you: fighting an army of mantis men.
Pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. You'll know when the test starts.

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Old 10/23/06, 6:24 PM   #24
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Few questions about Prospecting. I'm assuming the types of gems you can get from prospecting coorelate to different lvl's of ore/gems. Do we know which type of gems are available from different types of ore? I'm specifically interested in Dark Iron and Thorium.

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Old 10/23/06, 6:32 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by funshinebear
Few questions about Prospecting. I'm assuming the types of gems you can get from prospecting coorelate to different lvl's of ore/gems. Do we know which type of gems are available from different types of ore? I'm specifically interested in Dark Iron and Thorium.
Dark Iron: can't be prospected. Only the basic stuff can (copper, tin, iron, mithril, thorium, and the 2 new types of outlands ore).

Thorium - I haven't tested much (indeed I haven't prospected any ores much), but over 59 prospects of thorium ore, I got 21 star rubies, 10 huge emeralds, 9 large opals, 7 azerothian diamonds, 7 blue sapphire; also 1 deep peridot and 1 golden draenite (new Outlands gems; 1 such raw gem makes 1 socketable gem by itself as long as you have a recipe for the cut). The drop chance for a gem from prospecting thorium therefore seems to be around 100%, tho my sample size is so small that the drop rates could be noticeably larger or smaller.

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