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10/21/06, 6:11 PM
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Don Flamenco
Quit the game
Murloc Rogue
No WoW Account
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We're theorycrafting classes, their builds and damage output, but what's going to be the best way to level Tradeskills come expansion?
People are saying you should hoard some Runecloth, because Netherweave? Bandages do not begin until 330.
What are the cheapest Orange items currently in each tradeskill bar, and how far will they take us?
For Leatherworking, Core Armor Kits look like the cheapest of all of the options, considering they cost 3 Core Leather and 80s, Heavy Scorpid Shoulders look like a decent alternative now, although they cost a Cured Rugged Hide, they otherwise have the cheapest basic requirements otherwise, assuming Core Leather is neither cheap, nor abundant for you. Once either caps out (340), Thick Draenic Breastplate becomes the cheapest Orange item, at 14 Knothide Leather and 3 Rune Thread, at this point, based on current data (read: Thottbot beta info), the last few points become very difficult, and very little information is known about items. Based on this, I could probably hit 360 LWing in one day, with enough stockpiling, assuming I grind Beasts/Skin constantly in Hellfire Penninsula.
Of course, Blizzard could make Azeroth items not Orange anymore!
Anyone have any plans for their tradeskill?
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Gur - Level 64 Undead Warlock on Hellfire
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10/21/06, 6:44 PM
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Glass Joe
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Wicked leather belt is much easier for leatherworking. It requires 300 so it should last a while and all it needs is 14 rugged leather + vendor bought stuff.
For engineering, thorium shells should last a bit also.
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10/21/06, 6:52 PM
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Glass Joe
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Wizardweave robe is nice for tailoring, 8 bolts of runecloth and 2 dream dust + a rune thread. Guess runecloth headband could work as well, 4 bolts and 2 ironweb spider silks.
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10/21/06, 7:02 PM
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Soda Popinski
Eej
Troll Hunter
No WoW Account
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Thorium Shells go green at 305, trivial at 325. That's pretty much the only cheap item you can make in Engy that would push you well beyond 300. :|
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10/21/06, 7:04 PM
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Bald Bull
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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There are plenty of easy new leveling recipes so I wouldn't worry about it.
For example 1 admantium bar = shielding rune.
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10/21/06, 11:33 PM
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Bald Bull
Tauren Druid
Auchindoun (EU)
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Originally Posted by henaki
People are saying you should hoard some Runecloth, because Netherweave? Bandages do not begin until 330.
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Correct. Because heavy runecloth bandages are yellow at skill 300 and turn green at some point (don't remember when tho), you'll need at least 100 or so runecloth to get to skill 330. Me, I'll be carrying at least 200 into the expansion, just in case. :P This is the hardest of the three non-primary professions.
Fishing should be trivial, just become master (trivial) and start fishing (not too difficult). I got 4-5 stacks of aquadynamic fish attractors too.
Cooking isn't too hard since there's a quest you can get right off that gives you a very good cooking recipe, and the meat for that recipe drops from level 59-60 mobs around 100 metres from Honor Hold (and not too far from Thrallmar). Nevertheless I might get some materials to make these for easier initial skillup. :)
About the real professions... jewelcrafting will be infinitely easier with Outland-only materials once you reach 300, which I plan to do a few hours after the expansion opens. Other professions I won't worry about yet. ;)
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10/21/06, 11:54 PM
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Soda Popinski
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Run Tum Tubers and Sandworm Meat are solid choices for the power leveling cook- they stay orange/yellow longer than thier other azerothian counterparts and will get you up to 330ish which is high enough to cook pretty much everything the honor hold cook can teach you. You won't USE the food you make, but it will skill you up. (Outlands food is exceptionally nice, btw)
If you happen to have a massive stockpile of Mooncloth that you don't feel the burning urge to liquidate before the expac for any reason, Mooncloth bags are very light on your runecloth supplies (which was incredibly important for me on test as I was also transfering over enough materials to powerlevel jewelcrafting without any of the handy guides that are now being published) and 30 or so mooncloth will level you easily to 320 (maybe 325 or 330 I forget exactly where it went green) and give you a nice big buffer to save up netherweave as you level.
Start rant - Vendor trainable recipies will get you to 330 without problems at 6-8 bolts of netherweave (crafting netherweave robes/tunics/pants). 330-335 is a bit more painful, and 335+ isn't really implimented for late alpha testers or beta testers. Spellthread/High end recipies were all available in Alpha- I don't think anyone expected them to be removed entirely (especially the Spellthread which is the next thread up after runethread. WHY BLIZZ WHY?) but were removed the day the servers converted to beta. I have rarely been so angry with myself as I was when I realized that I could have bought a couple hundred spellthread and oodles of recipies before they were removed... /end rant
100 Runecloth seems to have been pretty standard for leveling up first aid.
Be sure to doublecheck your gethering skills and get them all to 300.
If you're an avid fisher and want to start fresh in the outlands (instead of leveling up past 300 in Azeroth which I'm pretty sure you could do) be sure to stockpile a stack or two of Aquadynamic fish attractors and head strat to Shattrath to pick up your +20 fishing/+54stamina fishing pole quest =D It's on a little boy near the aldors. Quest will NOT affect your aldor/scryer reputation but ALL other quests in that immediate area WILL. BEWARE.
My enchanting friends are recommending that enchanters stockpile arcane crystals and illusion dust and be prepared to faction grind for recipies to get you past 335.
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10/22/06, 6:03 AM
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Von Kaiser
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On the smithing side (which I'd contend is the hardest trade in the game to level), elemental sharpening stones are still yellow at 300, which should give you up to 320 if you stock up mats, I have a guide I theorycrafted together for getting smithing from 300-375 as cheap as I can (since my main doesn't mine), I'll post it once I get to my home computer, the big problem atm is that all trades stall somewhere between 340 and 360 due to total lack of reasonable/existant forms, i really hope they add more forms at all levels before things go live.
At the end of the day tho, I have yet to see anything that would indicate trades in BC will really be any more usefull than they are now - all but the epic forms for smithing are beaten by at/below level instance or quest drops, and the epics I think benefit heavily from being max level, unless they give all trades stuff more like enchanting (tailor/lw for pants, smith for belts?, side consumables for all of them?, I dunno), or make tier 4 hinge on them (get xxx drop from boss + yyy smithed item or what have you), and the new green resist gear makes me wonder if we've lost our requirement there (as I simultaneously hope for the death of resist fights).
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http://ctprofiles.net/229060
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10/22/06, 11:53 AM
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Mr. Sandman
Blood Elf Priest
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Bekah
My enchanting friends are recommending that enchanters stockpile arcane crystals and illusion dust and be prepared to faction grind for recipies to get you past 335.
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Arcane Crystals? I'm not sure that recipe is available to non-alpha folks. I personally am stuck at 352 enchanting with everything green...
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10/22/06, 11:58 AM
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Soda Popinski
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Originally Posted by Bury
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Originally Posted by Bekah
My enchanting friends are recommending that enchanters stockpile arcane crystals and illusion dust and be prepared to faction grind for recipies to get you past 335.
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Arcane Crystals? I'm not sure that recipe is available to non-alpha folks. I personally am stuck at 352 enchanting with everything green...
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Hrm, just checked with the enchanter down the hall who says he hasn't found that recipie, he waited until he hit 67 before focusing on 'chanting so missed the alpha recipies- although the enchanter who started leveling skills first in alpha has it. My bad. Hopefully it's not a terribly rare drop.
(If it's any comfort I'm stuck in the same situation with tailoring- I'm stuck at 340 with my only completable recipie requiring *6* primal earths each... and that one is only yellow. Oy. Maybe they'll release more with the extra zones.)
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Those of you who volunteered to be injected with praying mantis DNA, I've got some good news and some bad news.
Bad news is we're postponing those tests indefinitely. Good news is we've got a much better test for you: fighting an army of mantis men.
Pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. You'll know when the test starts.
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10/22/06, 12:29 PM
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Bald Bull
Orc Death Knight
Whisperwind
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Originally Posted by Fjord
There are plenty of easy new leveling recipes so I wouldn't worry about it.
For example 1 admantium bar = shielding rune.
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Not for leatherworking there aren't. It's damned near impossible to get to 350 in beta currently, let alone 355 for the blue class armors. The primary culprit is that nothing skins full leather reliably - the best I've gotten is 50/50 scraps/leather.
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10/22/06, 1:20 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Netherweave drops a lot, and at 300 tailoring you get bolt of netherweave, and netherweave nets (3 nw per net) and they're both orange. It's what i've been using so far. With enchanting you get some relatively cheap enchants at 300 (24 ap to bracers, 15 str to gloves, etc) that only take 5 or 6 arcane dust each; which isn't too bad if you can convince guildies to send you some greens that drop for them. :)
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10/22/06, 2:33 PM
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Mr. Sandman
Blood Elf Priest
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Bekah
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Originally Posted by Bury
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Originally Posted by Bekah
My enchanting friends are recommending that enchanters stockpile arcane crystals and illusion dust and be prepared to faction grind for recipies to get you past 335.
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Arcane Crystals? I'm not sure that recipe is available to non-alpha folks. I personally am stuck at 352 enchanting with everything green...
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Hrm, just checked with the enchanter down the hall who says he hasn't found that recipie, he waited until he hit 67 before focusing on 'chanting so missed the alpha recipies- although the enchanter who started leveling skills first in alpha has it. My bad. Hopefully it's not a terribly rare drop.
(If it's any comfort I'm stuck in the same situation with tailoring- I'm stuck at 340 with my only completable recipie requiring *6* primal earths each... and that one is only yellow. Oy. Maybe they'll release more with the extra zones.)
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Actualy, I'm at 343 Tailoring with a few orange recipes. Why can't you make NW Robes/Pants?
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10/22/06, 2:45 PM
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Soda Popinski
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Originally Posted by Bury
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Originally Posted by Bekah
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Originally Posted by Bury
Arcane Crystals? I'm not sure that recipe is available to non-alpha folks. I personally am stuck at 352 enchanting with everything green...
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Hrm, just checked with the enchanter down the hall who says he hasn't found that recipie, he waited until he hit 67 before focusing on 'chanting so missed the alpha recipies- although the enchanter who started leveling skills first in alpha has it. My bad. Hopefully it's not a terribly rare drop.
(If it's any comfort I'm stuck in the same situation with tailoring- I'm stuck at 340 with my only completable recipie requiring *6* primal earths each... and that one is only yellow. Oy. Maybe they'll release more with the extra zones.)
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Actualy, I'm at 343 Tailoring with a few orange recipes. Why can't you make NW Robes/Pants?
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I lied apparently. Sleep dep will do that.
I'm 360 tailoring. Ignore anytime I say 330something becasue I'm totally out of my mind (stuck at 340 jewelcrafting due to lack of gems and that's apparently warped my brain). I only have 3 craftable recipies that have the possibility of giving skillups- Cloak of Eternity (6 primal earth lololol, but it's the only craftable yellow), Neverweave Tunic (green), Soulcloth Gloves (green). I decided it was cost prohibitive to attempt to skill up beyond that and I'm hoping that more tailoring recipies are on unreleased vendors. bleh bleh bleh. Brain fried. I'll probably kill us all repeatedly on thaddius tonight =/
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Those of you who volunteered to be injected with praying mantis DNA, I've got some good news and some bad news.
Bad news is we're postponing those tests indefinitely. Good news is we've got a much better test for you: fighting an army of mantis men.
Pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. You'll know when the test starts.
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10/22/06, 8:26 PM
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Mr. Sandman
Blood Elf Priest
Mal'Ganis
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:/
According to this guy in post 3, " No profession has itemization to 350 yet." Maybe we're killing ourselves over nothing :P
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