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Old 10/22/06, 12:04 AM   #1
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So I am being told that procs can actually put an NPC below 0 Resists (and obviously thus into the negative) and that it was said by a CM but since the old forums had the post it is lost forever. Has anyone ever noticed any tests that prove this? I highly doubt you would get a vulnerability damage bonus, maybe spell hit but alas i cant think of a real easy way to test this. Especially since the only person i know who has it is a priest.

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Old 10/22/06, 12:07 AM   #2
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Got it. Hasn't happened yet. Though, you can never know for sure...

On an unrelated note, the procc is really cool when it goes off. Looks like I'm doing more things that I actually am, makes me look awesome and probably renders me more popular as well.

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Old 10/22/06, 12:09 AM   #3
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I have the staff. You cannot get negative resists with it or spell vulnerability unless this is changed for the XPAC. The staff is essentially a very nice PVP staff or a staff useful in MC runs for Fire Mages.

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Old 10/22/06, 1:03 AM   #4
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ya i didnt think it would happen and i think vulnerability came in after the staff was found so ya. If you do notice more hit i would think that is it.

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Old 10/22/06, 3:13 AM   #5
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a few patches ago they changed the game so mobs can no longer go into negative resists.
 
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Old 10/22/06, 3:19 AM   #6
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There are still reported abnormalities, where some mobs in the game (and some special effects) can still put mobs into negative resists. I'm unsure on speicifics, but without testing I wouldn't count the above staff out too quickly.

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Old 10/22/06, 6:53 AM   #7
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The Flamewalker Elites at Domo at least have negative shadow resistance. I can't confirm any others though. But yes, afaik there's no way to forcibly reduce someones or somethings resistance below 0. Even the nasty debuffs on the Lava Packs will only reduce FR to 0.

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Old 10/22/06, 7:04 AM   #8
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Old 10/22/06, 7:57 AM   #9
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Old 10/22/06, 8:06 AM   #10
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Old 10/22/06, 9:41 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by krucifix85
There are still reported abnormalities, where some mobs in the game (and some special effects) can still put mobs into negative resists. I'm unsure on speicifics, but without testing I wouldn't count the above staff out too quickly.
Well, there are a few mobs with negative resist, like the already mentioned Flamewalker Elites with negative shadow reistance, or the tar elementals in Un'Gro with negative fire resist. I do, however, not know of any effects that can make a mob that doesn't already have it get negative resistances.

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Old 10/22/06, 9:59 AM   #12
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So long as the staff is being talked about did anyone ever sort out roughly how much extra damage -resist works out to? I've been debating whether I want to put in for that staff or not; I think I lose about 9 damage and 1% crit over my current setup so I don't see it being worth it. It seems sort of gimmicky to me.

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Old 10/22/06, 10:57 AM   #13
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Old 10/22/06, 11:59 AM   #14
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SotQP is nice for the whelp room in BWL and that's really about it.
It doesn't proc off the majority of warlock spells or any channeled spells, so it's quite class- and situation-dependent.
And I've worn up to -110 resist (with staff proc) and never seen a vulnerability.
 
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Old 10/22/06, 12:13 PM   #15
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I've experienced vulnability bonus on Majordomos adds while using Eye of Moam, not really using that trinket anymore but those adds were the only place I ever experienced that behaviour. Might even have an old screenshot

 
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Old 10/22/06, 6:56 PM   #16
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Maybe you can't take a mob below zero, but a mob already below you can take further into the negative?

 
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Old 10/23/06, 2:16 AM   #17
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I used the staff in question for a rather long time and ever since the patch way back when, I've never seen any vulnerability bonuses that aren't there for everyone. I will admit that the proc itself did make an amusing noise though if nothing else.
 
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