While I don't have a beta key I've been trying to keep up with what's new for engineering.

So far it's not looking that great... Portable Mail Box seems pretty gimmicky, I can't see it as essential given the fact we are getting even larger bag sizes at some stage. The Rocket Launcher sounds fun, but you can't use it in arena QQ. The potion injectors don't seem that great either, can't use it in arena? Only saves you what.. 3 bag slots to have an injector instead of 4 stacks of 5 pots.

Has anyone seen anything yet that has made them think wow I'm keeping engineering for that?

There's lots of talk about... MINI BATTLE ROBOTS! This alone is worth taking engineering TWICE on every char. Well you can't take it twice, but once is a must.

If you meant useful stuff, I don't use engineering anymore besides free tanaris teleport for AQ, and grenades. The real question is, is there really a point in taking something else, not if engineering is worth it. I guess we'll see if they keep those smithing weaps updated and stuff, otherwise, 4months after BC release, you'll be able to get better weapons/armors from tripping and killing some random slime, and they will be just as worthless as they are currently.

You could always get a gathering skill for money, but well I have enough chars to cover all the gathering I'll ever need, so that's not something I can give advice about ^^

I like Reflectors. I also like ridiculous gadgets, such as my Portable Bomb Launcher.

I'm thinking the mote extractor may come in handy, and may even hopefully be a source of income. But really, what's keeping it for me is the teleporter. Hearth in $raidzone, get mage ports back to wherever, and if I need to visit Azeroth, just port to WS.

Edit: Oh my god, please let there be tonks.

Unless the reflectors are nerfed to not work in the arena, it will pretty much always be worth keeping engineering, just for that.

And the mote collector thing, and the ultraspectrocscopotropotric (lol) goggles might be worth keeping, if they are really used to collect AHable items.

And battletonks all year round?!!!

Hmm, Wodin, how common are adamantium, fel iron nodes, etc? I just saw a jewelcrafting thing that requires 200 fel iron ore total, on thott. :|

edit: actually, how common are all of the nodes in the zones you have been in? More like copper, or like rich thorium?

Running around Hellfire peninsular and Zangarmarsh showed... a decent amount of Fel Iron, I'd guess. Can't speak for any higher zones, but the nodes were more sporadic than they had any right to be.

Haven't you heard, engineering is a gathering profession in TBC!

If you're building a heavy PvP-set, you're still acquiring a good deal of it from BGs, so you can still use your engineering there.

Plus the trinkets will be useful in the arenas.

Despite all this I plan to go Tailoring in BC so I end up Tailor / Engineer. Nets AND Grenades in World PVP? Yes Please.

Having a 114 dps 2 hand weapon will probably way way outweigh the need for trinkets and/or bombs

Right now s it stands as a 300 engy i get very little use out of it outside of dropping repair bots or making some super cheap iron grenades which wont be useable in the arena or that one instance where i have a reflector equip and pelt a mage with his own pyroblast.

Right now im very very much debating on droping engy all together and get a jump start and go blacksmithing for craftable weapons in BC (that 81+ dps mace that upgrades to an 88 dps mace is fucking hot). Blacksmithing is by far the best upgraded profession in BC

They share a cooldown with grenades :(

Oh, and my iron grenading habits got nerfed. I suppose im going to have to use the adamantium/fel iron versions now.

I hope its not going to be ridiculously expensive :(

Ok, I forgot about Potion Injectors, which are definitely awesome.