TBC Release date - Page 2

Bubba · 10/24/06, 5:32 AM

More bombing runs!

The guilds that are still working through Naxx should see this as nothing but a good thing, as noone likes to leave unconquered content behind. If you're already at the stage where a month or so is the difference between life and death for your guild, then the Expansion coming out isn't necessarily going to cure that.

Shakkha · 10/24/06, 5:33 AM

Originally Posted by Warpony

It'll definetly make it worse imho.

We've allready seen (if nowhere else, on these boards) that TBC beta and the upcoming release is DESTROYING guilds all over... Attendence falling, people quitting til TBC and more.

This gives us another 2-3 months of this utter bullshit and another 2-3 months of guilds falling apart.

I'm actually sad they lifted the NDA... Then we wouldnt know what was coming and we could raid along alot better imho.

Well well, time to adapt AGAIN :/

this way guilds will be down to 25ish people at TBC release, that's perfect for TBC content! ;)

Crossbones · 10/24/06, 5:33 AM

Originally Posted by Lord BEEF

Posted this Q and A thread as well. They're providing a content patch that includes the talent trees and honor system before the expansion is out. Essentially the patch they had intended to post for people who didn't have the expansion on launch day

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=4

Will be interesting to see how this affects current encounters

Wow. Being able to go 41 deep into a tree without the extra 10 pts from leveling is going to really gimp your secondary tree, but ought to be fun to try out.

I'm wondering if there will be something stopping us from amassing honor only to wait until the xpack comes out and buy as many lv 70 TBC PvP epics as possible.

Vetinari · 10/24/06, 5:42 AM

Oh, shit. My holidays from Uni start in November, so now I have 2 months of playing bloody vanilla WoW, rather than a couple weeks, and blood elf fun. If only they would release blood elves early too :(

burninator · 10/24/06, 5:43 AM

http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/38233956.htm

Originally Posted by Eyonix

Remember, we were planning on patching in many things along with the release of the Burning Crusade so that those who chose not to purchase the expansion could still enjoy many new features.

With the delay of the game, we'll be patching prior to its release.

So subscribers are getting a few weeks of public beta-testing (minus outland zones) ;)

And I wonder if stacking HOTs and the changed +healing mechanics will be patched in before TBC, this would have quite some impact on current encounters.

enshula · 10/24/06, 5:46 AM

The new honour system seems to have seasons to some extent. Basically you could save up enough points to buy 1 max point cost item, and possibly ~1.5. But you could not use that item until you levelled to 70 and could not use l60 versions if you saved honour immediately.

Saving up to the cap near the end could be sensible though, i knew a lot of people who did that in guild wars which has similar mechanics.

henaki · 10/24/06, 5:49 AM

This is five kinds of brilliant:
We beta test 50% of Blizzard's content.
Buys Blizzard time until the expansion comes out.
If the changes current ruin raiding, the raiders might move on to Beta testing content, or just quit until Expansion.
Diffuses the stress on Blizzards servers, none of this "Everyone downloading 2 gigs on BC release date".
Allows Blizzard to conjure up more copies of TBC.

Judia · 10/24/06, 5:49 AM

This is pretty soul destroying for me personally.
I geuss its ok for Blizzard, they dont have to try and hold a guild together for another 12 weeks while more and more people either quit or take extended breaks until the expansion is released. And then as 1/2 core members start to flake away, or decide its time to go level an alt up for the expansion the rest of your core are face soldiering on with 1 less friend to chew the fat with or taking their own break. We face 12 weeks of above-average attrition, with a non-existant recruiting pool. Its pretty brutal.

I think this is a terrrible move for what my 2c is worth, and expect many servers will be a ghost town raid-wise between Xmas and the Xpac.

Groglox · 10/24/06, 5:53 AM

The smartest move they could make in my opinion, is the opening of Blood Elf and Dranei starting zones.

This would allow players to start leveling up their characters now and keep people playing instead of letting subscriptions run out before the expansion hits. It would also insure that people can gear up their characters to make raiding at 70 worthwhile, and all those plate and mail drops not a waste.

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I'm wondering if there will be something stopping us from amassing honor only to wait until the xpack comes out and buy as many lv 70 TBC PvP epics as possible.

Requires lvl 70 I would guess.

Crossbones · 10/24/06, 5:56 AM

Originally Posted by enshula

The new honour system seems to have seasons to some extent. Basically you could save up enough points to buy 1 max point cost item, and possibly ~1.5. But you could not use that item until you levelled to 70 and could not use l60 versions if you saved honour immediately.

Saving up to the cap near the end could be sensible though, i knew a lot of people who did that in guild wars which has similar mechanics.

You're describing arena points with the seasons and point caps. Honor was supposed to stick around forever so you could take your time acquiring items. Not sure if there will be some modification to that since honor isn't launching with the expansion anymore.

The smartest move they could make in my opinion, is the opening of Blood Elf and Dranei starting zones.

Yeah, I think that would be fantastic if people could have their paladins/shamans ready at 60 when the expansion launches. The only problem is that the new races were specifically stated as things you could only create if you had the expansion and wouldn't have been in the patch had it been released together with the game.

I'm also wondering if jewelcrafting is one of those TBC specific things or if that would have been in the opening day patch for people who hadn't bought TBC too.

Rane · 10/24/06, 6:03 AM

I will be looking forward to much raid content testing on beta now, I was already a little worried we wouldn't have enough time for some decent testing since we're not even allowed to level to 70 yet. Testing lvl 72 bosses only goes so far when you're lvl 67, no matter the gear.

I'm not playing much Live anymore so the new content patch doesn't bother me so; if however, they open up BE/Draenei zones and Jewelcrafting, I will definately try and get a headstart going.

Groglox · 10/24/06, 6:07 AM

Yeah, I think that would be fantastic if people could have their paladins/shamans ready at 60 when the expansion launches. The only problem is that the new races were specifically stated as things you could only create if you had the expansion and wouldn't have been in the patch had it been released together with the game.

They also said that it would be out before the end of the year 100% multiple times. I am hoping they see the benefit of allowing people to start leveling now and choose to take advantage of it.

Cull · 10/24/06, 6:12 AM

Looks like trying to hang on till the expansion isn't going to work :( Gonna have to buckle down and start raiding hard again.

enshula · 10/24/06, 6:16 AM

Crossbones true. I felt it more likely that honour would be capped as well. And now it becomes almost neccessary to prevent farming large amounts of honour then grinding to 70 and immediately purchasing everything available.

Which is just another version of the get to rank 14 once and you should always be given the best items when they come out discussion but less extreme.

Cord · 10/24/06, 6:17 AM

This pleases me a large amount. It gives me more time to level alts, farm money for mounts, prepare my trade skills, and acquire better equipment.

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