Given the recent nerfs to the laptop 41 point talents, particularly in the power tree, I don't see them as being viable in a raid. The wifi talent is pretty much a given, but you then have to drop 5 points into extended life batteries--even with that regen, even outside of the FSR, doesn't exist. That leaves you tied to a power cord.
I for one am going to be rerolling a BE Desktop come the expansion. Take that, Blizzard!
You seriously just had to stop lurking in order to post this? This is terrible. 48-hour ban for lack of wit.
Mac performance is getting a lot better with every WoW patch and rev of Apple's hardware and OS, but given the same hardware Windows is still the winner. If you don't have to buy something now and are still interested in an Apple laptop, wait until the next major version of OSX ships. There's a boatload of OpenGL and graphics improvements slated to ship, and performance should be quite a bit better. (Sidenote: if Tigerclaw isn't Blizzard's Employee of the Year for his work on the Mac client and support forums, he goddamned well ought to be. Every WoW developer should be required to be as active with the community as he is.)
<rant>I know why they don't, but god I wish Apple would release a desktop machine that sits in between the iMac and the MacPros on the product chart. A double-height MacMini with a real video card option would be freaking sweet.</rant>
Well, i am playing the beta on a laptop and i raid from it as well. Cost me about £700 for duel AMD Turion processors, 1028 RAM, an Nvidia graphics card (5400 or something similar, i don't know how 'new' it is but my brother tells me it's not been out more than a year). Only thing that bothers me about laptops are the keyboards (i'm probably going to get one when the next part of my student loan comes through), but for a packard bell it is capable of handling WoW on medium/high settings with ventrilo and msn for little to no lag except server side. So, treating this purely from a "can a laptop handle raiding/pvp content" i would say yes they can but i definately paid double what i would have for a self-made desktop of the same spec.
Dell Inspiron 6400 - 2gb memory, the ATI Mobility Radeon. 1680x1050 - about 20-60 fps while raiding (AQ40, Spider wing, 5 times a week). Some areas are really bad (the trash before Huhu slows down to about 17 fps), and areas that I thought would suck are fine (like AV works great)
Only problem I'm currently having is the Wifi adapter has developed a habit of not working properly with my Netgear WRT54g after 1 year of flawless service. I'm suspecting a recent Windows patch has nerfed me.
If you're getting a Dell, and you're a fraps junkie, then make sure that it contains a loopback audio (or something, waves hands in air) so you can record the sound. I got around this with a hardware solution (looped speaker into mic with a splitter for headphones) which works, but meh. It's really hard to find out this information about the audio, and I'm kicking myself that I didn't know it was possible, but the fraps guys helped me out a lot in diagnosing the problem. Dell are cheap with their audio hardware supposedly.
This was about AUS$2k with the additional memory, and about AUS$1.7k "base" - but should be much cheaper now.
I play on the dining room table (hard surface and mouse ftw) while my wife watches TV - so I can allegedly chat with her about her day.
Pewsey has heard about tact and discretion, but tends to regard them much as children view vegetables.
There are only two kinds of MMOs: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody plays. (inspired by Bjarne Stroustrup)
I run on a laptop just fine. I have the Dell E1505, 1.8ghz core duo, 1GB RAM, x1400 vid card. I can run with everything maxed out with no issues whatsoever. It does get a bit hot, but that's what the cooling pad is for =)
There seem to be a number of guilds who request internet connection and hardware information in the application process. Could be worthwhile asking a number of them seeing as you seem to have no guild at the moment. Might give you an indication of certain things which really help and hurt performance.
From a raiding perspective id suggest going for a dual core that isnt the slowest around and turning down graphics options completely. Though since you want to play at 1920x1200 that may not be what your after.
edit: And avoiding page file usage would be a good idea as well. That means at least 1.25gig ram on XP and likely a fair bit more for Burning Crusade. I wouldnt go below 2gig if you plan to use vista.
My laptop is an older Dell XPS model, before core duo was out but with a geforce 7800GTX (cpu: pentium M 2.1ghz) with 1 gig of ram.
I play wow with all settings maxed out and in an information heavy setup (I am a healer who also keeps an eye on the general raid status, threath meter and dps meter). Even when I run fraps to record our kills I do not suffer an FPS loss. The lowest FPS get I during raid usually is in suppression rooms, and even there I still float around 15-20 FPS (with fraps, vent and firefox on).
posting 3dmark 2005 scores might help aswell, mine hits about 6700 marks. (most desktop users in my guild have less)
ps: my ui is entirely ace2, but this shouldnt make that much of an impact.
Purchased a new laptop from www.ibuypower.com a month ago or so, was recommended by a number of guildmates. Haven't had any issues so far, and I play WoW on it at home/work all the time, mainly dualboxing when at home. If I play full screen I get 30-40fps in IF, I usually play in windowed mode though and that drops my FPS in IF to about 20ish. Can raid with it just fine, haven't done Thaddius on it yet, but in most raids i'm getting 20-30fps windowed mode. Haven't had any issues so far, I'd recommend checking them out.
Total cost was $1350
LCD: 15.4, 1280x800 native, going bigger then a 15.4 really starts to cost you, and laptops are usually much closer then your desktop monitor, so the smaller size isn't as noticeable.
Processor: AMD TurionT64 MT-40 CPU [2.2GHz, 1MB Cache] w/Hyper Transport Technology
Memory: 1024MB [512MB X2] DDR-400 PC-3200 Corsair (you can get this as 1 stick of memory allowing you to upgrade later, costs $20 more?)
Video Card: Mobility 256MB ATI Radeon X1600 PCI-Express
Hard Drive: 100 GB 7200rpm ATA-100
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive: 8X Dual Format DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive
Network: On-board Realtek 10/100 LAN card, and on-board Gigabyte 802.11g WiFi
Sound: On-board something, haven't noticed a difference in quality compared to my Audigy soundcard at home.
4x USB ports, s-video, etc.
Originally Posted by Ardente
The vet gave him an enema and he fucking assploded everywhere.
A quick search shows that picking up a 17" with an intel core duo processor around 2.0ghz, 1gb of ram, a 128mb Ati or Nvidia card, and 80+gb hard drive is pretty easy to pick up around the $1500 ballpark. That kind of hardware should be able to run WoW in spades.
One thing I noticed when I tried (not very successfully) playing WoW on a laptop some time ago was the horrible disk access speed. Obviously this is mainly due to inadequate RAM and having to access the page file repeatedly, but I think HDD speed was also an issue. Although it may have changed since I was last looking at laptops, many of them seem to have slow hard drives to reduce heat. Just something to look out for anyway...
A couple of months ago, I purchased an XPS M1210 for dell. It's a 12" with Intel Core 2 Duo. It runs the game very well, better than my current desktop, which makes me sad. Although I never intended to use the laptop to play any games with, I love being able to raid on the living room couch.
Until recently I never really liked the look of games on LCDs, but with the new glossy screens, it does look really nice.
Haven't actually used one of their laptops, but I bought my gaming desktop from them and was very impressed by the customer service, the knowledgeable staff (even the receptionist that takes orders) and the speed of build/delivery, not to mention that the quality of work was superb.
I run WoW on a Dell Latitude D810. Widescreen, 60g HD, 1.73Ghz processor, 1gb RAM.
I run it in windowed mode so I can easily access other programs with almost all the settings on high. The only time I really notice any problems is when I am in a zone where the weather is going on. Gameplay gets kinda choppy running through STV while it's raining. The laptop allows me to easily go over my girlfriend's house and not miss a raid. Now if I could get her to stop bugging me while we're working on Razorgore I'd be set.