where's all the +strength/+ap plate at >:(

hate to say it, but I suddenly find myself agreeing...

What did you expect in a thread that largely started out hunters vs rogues? :rolleyes:

I'd agree that rogue itemization is off but new hunter changes don't automatically mean rogue changes, heh.

Edit: Your avatar is kinda creepy =(

Rogue itemization is handled with new items in the expansion, not a change on their existing items.

Look at..

Leggings of Unending Assault [iLvl 103 Blue] - 92 AP // 14 Crit Rating
230 Armor
+30 Agility
+45 Stamina
+62 AP

Bonescythe Leggings [iLvl 88 Epic] - 63 AP // 29 Crit Rating // 10 Hit Rating
253 Armor
+31 Strength
+32 Agility
+25 Stamina
Equip: Increase critical strike rating by 14.
Equip: Increase hit rating by 10.

The only real good item that was itemized that way in WoW1 was the Defiler's Leather Shoulders which is why they rate about on par to the Bonescythe on AEP.

Tons of items in TBC are itemized that way....
Blood Etched Shoulders [Lv88 Blue]: 174 Armor, 20 Agi, 21 Sta, 13 hit rating, 40 AP
Bracers of Finesse [Lv85 Blue]: 99 Armor, 18 Agi, 16 Sta, 28 AP
CoT Dark Portal Lord Deja Rogue Shoulders [Lv110 Blue]: 194 Armor, 25 Agi, 26 Sta, 15 hit rating, 48 AP
Darkguard Face Mask [Lv100 Blue]: 208 Armor, 29 Agi, 30 Sta, 20 hit rating, 60 AP
Exorcist's Leather Helm [Lv100 Blue]: 189 Armor, 27 Agi, 33 Sta, Meta Socket (+4 AP bonus), 10 crit rating, 14 hit rating, 20 AP
Mag'hari Scout's Tunic [Lv103 Blue]: 239 Armor, 23 Agi, 18 Sta, 12 hit rating, 86 AP
Murmuring Girdle [Lv115 Blue]: 149 Armor, 25 Agi, 24 Sta, 17 hit rating, 40 AP

I could keep going on but I think you get the picture. Yes you are going to have to go replace your gear but you will have plenty of gear options. We'll be seeing L70 Rogues with 1800 AP unbuffed (if they spec into Sub for AP/Agi modifiers).

*Side note: Cat form druids will not see Str/Agi on items together anymore (and DPS Warriors won't be wearing Leather as much)

1800 is quite a leap. At 67 I have, with Sinister Calling and Deadliness, 1361 in max AP gear. Unfortunately, I sacrifice other useful stats to get there, and while 450 ap going from 67 in largely old world epics and some new world AP gear to 70 with raid epics sounds reasonable, I think it's a bit premature to make any assumptions one way or another about what we'll be wearing when that time comes. No point in worrying about it until we've seen it.

Not to tangent too much on the thread but just because saiyajinmaster has crap for gear in beta doesn't mean what I said is wrong....See below...

Gladiator's Shanker - Agility (+15 Agility)
Gladiator's Shiv - Agility (+15 Agility)
Needle Shrike
Helm of the Claw - Death's Embrace
Prestor's Talisman of Connivery
Lord Deja Rogue Shoulders - Might of the Scourge
Mag'hari Scout's Tunic - Exceptional Stats (+6 All Stats)
Belt of Never-ending Agony
Leggings of Unending Assault - Death's Embrace
Bonescythe Sabatons - Dexterity (+12 Agility)
Bracers of Finesse - Assault (+24 Attack Power)
Bonescythe Gauntlets - Assault (+30 Attack Power)
Lv70 Hard Mode Melee Cape - Greater Agility (+12 Agility)
Ring of the Exarchs
Lv70 Dungeon Hard Mode Melee Ring
Lv70 Hard Mode Melee Trinket
Drake Fang Talisman

That set of gear right there puts you at ~1800 AP using SC and Deadliness (or ~1600 without them) with plenty of "useful" stats (Like 468 Agi and 368 Sta [with level 60 base stats, not sure how much more Agi/Sta you get as a rogue going to 70]). So to me 1800 isn't a leap at all you just don't have the gear. With full raid buffs now (since you can get Pally buffs and Totems) you'll easily clear 3000AP.