I've found a few Heigan strategy threads and discussion about lag, but I haven't been able to find much material on the supression room itself.

We've been to Heigan 3 or 4 nights now, but we can't seem to perfect a strategy to get everyone to Heigan alive. Currently what we've found works best for us is:
Sit in Noth's room and have a hunter pull out the bat packs one at a time, OT 1 bat of each pack in a corner, kill the grubs as they come, and try to as quickly as possible pull 3 of the plague beasts. Whenever we've tried to pull the 4th beast we can't seem to get just him or just him and a bat pack or so. We have always gotten the beast + 2 bat packs + 4-6 grubs which is just to much for us to handle at once.

What we end up doing after the point of pulling everything until the 3rd beast is down is we enter the room and head up to the right side corner turn before heigan's room. From there we kill the OT'd bats as they can respawn safely now since we are past them. But at that point in that corner of the room it becomes difficult to OT new bat packs and pull the beast simply because there isn't much space to work with and we end up generally with endless spawns of bats and grubs (just now this moment thought, would it be feasible to OT 1 grub in each grub pack? we might be able to pull out the 4th beast if this would work since he wouldn't come with a crap load of grubs)

This is a pic of the "path" we take once 3 beasts are dead and we head into the room to get at the 4th beast and kill the current OT'd bats. We don't move much further than that because the beast then aggro's along with a few grubs and 2 bat packs. We generally sit there with endless spawns of bats until the beast is in a good position to pull just him without adds and well, it gets rather rough at this point.


We have also tried moving the raid progressively through the room as we kill things but that typically ended with a beast accidently aggro'ing the raid while dealing with something else and not being brought out of the raid fast enough (and if you could, I think we'd just end up aggro'ing more junk).

If we could get to heigan reliably and fairly quickly I'm pretty sure he would die in a short time, but this suppression room is really just annoying us to the point of wanting to find the developer that designed this and take a automatic rifle to his nuts.

We've got to be missing something here, any insight or assistance would be welcomed. I'm rather suprised at the complete lack of any discussion anywhere on this subject. Makes us feel like we're the only guild that is having issues with this god forsaken room but I know that can't be the case :) heh.

There are stopping points where you will only pull one pack of respawning mobs every 15-20 seconds. Learn where these are, and stop at them. If people are dead, you can res them. If people died too far back, they can run and you can summon them. If people D/C, let them stay that way.

The final stopping point is after the mushroom around the corner. Use the OOC time to equip your Runes of the Dawn. :)

My guild progressively pulls through the room. We have a hunter who pulls the packs and places and icon on one which is pulled to our OT or something close to that extent. Since a bat in each group we pass is being OT nothing behind us respawns except for grubs and plague beasts. We move fast enough that we dont get multiple spawns of plaguebeasts and as long as noobs aren't AoEing we don't have any respawning bats. Also we use a MA to FF individual bats for noobs who can't help but target icon'd mobs. Once we turn the corner where the mushroom is we just stand there till we kill the final plaguebeast and grubs and rush into Heigans room.

I don't know what you are doing wrong when it comes to the fourth plague beast, but we are able to pull the entire room into Noth's room without ever grabbing a double bat pack. We also have the off-tank holding one bat from every pack. After pulling every bat pack and plague beast, we go through the suppression room, pause at the giant mushroom to kill all the maggots, then kill everything at the final corner just before engaging Heigen.

Why are you killing all the grubs?

Our strat is to pull bat and grub packs out, keep one from each alive. Mark them with a raid icon and tell people not to attack any marked targets. Kill the first 2 plague beasts, then move the raid into the room, along the first wall till you get the 3rd plague beast. Move around the corner. At this point, you can kill all the marked bats and grubs that you've kept from the start of the room. Now kill the 4th plague beast and move to the final corner just before Heigan's room. At this point if you need to rez/summon/drink you can kill the grubs/bats that will spawn almost on top of you and you'll get 10-15 sec of out of combat time to do so.

As I mentioned in my post above I just had this idea like while I was writing this, of OT'ing the grubs. I think we'll try it since it conforms to the strategy we're most comfortable with right now, but I have no idea how hard 4-5 grubs will hit attacking 1 person. We'll find out next time we're there I suppose.

Its not bad at all Apparation. I set up my guild's healing schemes for all the fights, and for the Heigan room I use 2 tanks on the Bats/Grubs and just assign 2 druids to them. They keep them up just fine.

sounds like a winner to me then, we'll have to give it a go. Appreciate the feedback everyone.

I think one important point to note, regardless of the underlying strategy, is the bats and grubs only hurt if they focus fire on a single raid member. (Hey, the mobs need to learn to assist too!) We've found that aoeing to control floods of bats on a bad beast pull or respawn usually leads to the situation going even further out of control when the casters start dropping.

If a whole flock aggros for whatever reason, it's best to remain calm, let people kill stuff one by one. Our healers use extremely small heals here, and if any one healer pulls aggro, he doesn't heal himself - other people patch him up. As long as the bats/grubs don't focus fire, a swarm of 15 can come and no one dies still.

Naturally, plague beasts AEing the raid is the fastest way to a messy wipe. There are four beasts total to be killed, with a potential rush of 2 of them simultaneously right after the corner if movement is mistimed.

Exactly what we do.

People trying this for the first time need to get the cadence of the final few seconds down, or you'll risk ruining your attempt. We actually offtank a single bat after everyone drinks, then pull the two grubs and kill them exactly simultaneously, just to give as large a window as possible for slow/afk people.

It's probably good for new people to know--the gate closes concurrently with the first splash, 15 seconds after aggro. If someone is stuck outside, tell them to try to hearth.

I've done it multiple ways, so you can take or leave my advice:

Easiest way to do this clear the room prior to Heigan is to offtank the entire way up. It makes the entire clear absolutely controlled, and roughly 8 minutes every time. Incidently it appears EJ does it the same way. Just follow the inside path and keep the warriors behind the raid. This room isn't even an issue anymore for us - which is good, cause I hate trash!

Expansion: For those who haven't done this, if you pull a grub or bat, and offtank one of them to the side, and kill the rest... that pack will never respawn until the final mob dies.

What this means is you can offtank a single bat or grub all the way to the next "safe point", then kill it to free up that tank. The healing is trivial, the movements are trivial... the only tough point is potential burst on mages, but thats not a problem either.

OOC is not necessary unless someone gets hearthed or dies.