Is there any way you could post your warrior's gear load out and spec? I'm working on a 29 dwarf warrior twink currently and your non crit white damage is just a bit less than I crit for.

I've got a 39 twink Rogue, and I absolutely love it. The reason why I picked 39, apart from just randomly being bored of levelling it, is that you can get Hemo and Prep, which are both hilarious in BGs. I can kill pretty much everyone 1v1 if I get the jump, but I've met a few twinked out Warriors (mostly DW with ~30 dps weapons) who'd kick my ass if I didn't have a lot of time and room to build points and kite.

Also! Lifestealing enchant is great. Hits for 30 where Fiery is 40, and is a bit more expensive but the heal is awesome if you go 2v1 and get a good proc string.

For level 20-29 I would highly recommend Rogue, Hunter, or Warrior, in that order.

Warriors, while powerful, just don't have as much fun due to the lack of different skills you can use. Spamming hamstring and heroic strike feels more like waiting to do anything significant, rather than actively semi-stun-locking or kiting.

Fiery, while good, really doesn't cut it compared to Crusader/agility for a rogue. The extra healing/AP you get is HUGE at that level range.



Now for hunters you have a whole different ball game to deal with, and it all pertains to the STV Nesingwary hunting quests. You need to start doing the raptor and tiger hunting quest lines at level 28 to obtain these items. Be sure to bring along a level 60 friend in order to NOT GAIN TOO MUCH XP. Very important.

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=38532
http://www.thottbot.com/?i=3825

Both of these items are extremely powerful for the 20-29 level range. Compare the rifle to http://www.thottbot.com/?i=7795 . On top of that it is possible to put a +7 scope on the master hunter rifle due to its ilevel 43. This makes for a hunter that can put people down extremely fast.


Other items to get for rogues/hunters:
BACK: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=3652 (BoE Blue, EXPENSIVE but the best)
BOOTS: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=32572 (Quest)
GLOVES: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=6348 (Quest)
LEGS: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=2281 (Quest, Gnomeragon)
SHOULDERS: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=10241 http://www.thottbot.com/?i=3879 http://www.thottbot.com/?i=4505 (all BoE random, you might just try to get some green 'of the monkey')
RINGS: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=3003 (Quest, Shadowfang Keep) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=40797 (reputation)
HEAD: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=12376 (random green) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=6779 (farmable)
NECK: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=3446 (randome green) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=9533 (rare spawn, easy to get) http://thottbot.com/?i=40744 (Reputation)
TRINKETS: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=52418 http://www.thottbot.com/?i=39979 http://www.thottbot.com/?i=39980 http://www.thottbot.com/?i=52419 (all reputation/rank based)
BELTS: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=2984 (crafted) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51377 (REP) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51137 (REP)
WRISTS: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=16738 (Boss drop, random) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=40350 (crafted)
WEAPONS: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=7786 (Boss drop) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=8824 (BoE Blue) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=40884 (REP) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=40885 (REP) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=14291 (BoE Blue) http://www.thottbot.com/?i=4122 (quest, blackfathom deeps)



Hope this helps...

WARNING: I don't know how bad the expansion changes to hunter agility will affect hunter twinks. BE WARNED.

I twinked out a paladin for the 29 bracket, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you have a melee that will run with you. While it was nice being unkillable, even versus other twinks, not being able to damage them much hurt .. they just had to outlast my mana. However when I'd team up with my rogue or warrior partner, we'd just dominate.

Paladins twinked out for DPS in the 29 bracket seem to be pretty damn good to me. I play a 29 priest twink to healbot my friends warrior, and honestly, twinked out pallies kill me more than almost any other class. Corpsemaker with Seal of Command and Fiery are absolutely brutal on clothies. I've had paladins do almost 800 damage to me in one swing before (white crit, soc crit, 2x fiery procs). Since SoC is pretty much an instant attack, they have more burst damage than warriors do at that level. Add in Hammer of Justice to interrupt my heals, and they can be trouble.

I agree completely.

Paladins can do almost as much damage (if not more) as warriors, on top of all their extra nifty healing/stun/freedom stuff.

All you need is that special Corpsemaker.

Casters are sadly weak because low level caster gear is ridiculously badly itemised, especially weapons (virtually non existant compared to the pleathora of hunter and melee weapons and enchants). However i played a couple of games at 29 with my mage just as i was burning through the levels for a change of pace. Having full shatter is nice, and twink warriors are trivial to kite without intercept (just take a long time to die).

Hunters though, jesus. One game I played recently had a level 20 hunter among mostly level 29s (including me). He was obviously a former 10-19 twink who's levelling/changing twink bracket but he was insanely annoying and had a large impact on the match - I dread to think what it would have been like if he was level 29 and appropriately geared. A travel form that works everywhere is very useful at that level, and track humanoids/beasts too.

Also I agree twink paladins are a nightmare to fight :(

It depends, if you have Corpsemaker then you can put out some really high numbers. (and I do mean high)
I would advice going dualwielding though, the damageoutput is just so much better and you'll have all kind of neat fury talents (like enrage!)

This is what I would aim for gear wise:
http://ctprofiles.net/4322296
most of this will be upgraded with sufficient ab/wsg rep off course.

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Can I re-word that?

Epiced out damagedealers make BG's pointless and not fun for restoration specced lvl 60's

oddly enough the only 2 active twinkers in our guild is one of our priests and me (resto druid)

Pretty much sums up low lvl bg's, My warrior in mixed green and blues played the proper way (you know grouping ... not buying stuff :P), no enchants had around 1500 hps, I come up against a warrior with 3.2k hps... yer gg low lvl items with max level enchants (he also had dual crusader enchants).

That's the day I quit low level bg's and decided to level up instead.

Well, if you want to play with twinks then you should be a twink, although I could see how annoying it would be for those that want to have casual PvP :(



Anyway, here are the Hunter specs I would suggest at level 29. Beast Mastery is really poor for this level range so I would stay away.

Marksman: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000
Survival/Marksman: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...25000500000000
Survival: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...45200510000000

Survival has a few points that you can throw around, with survivalist being the main focus. With all your twink gear it isn't hard to get 2500 health at level 29.

I have a hilariously twinked 39 hunter: http://ctprofiles.net/3170940

Aimed Shot crits over 1k on cloth... usually doesn't take me more than 8-10 seconds to kill a single target. Great fun, absolutely worth the ~800g investment.

All of my low level PvPers rely completely on gear for that reason. (And even the gear tends to just be level appropriate greens, with a few blues) No enchants.


It's simply annoying to try to fight rogues who have 2x the hp/DPS they should have for the level. It does make killing/griefing them so very sweet, however. (Frost mage w/ Frostbite & Winter's Chill vs. melee is laughably lopsided, twink or no.)

In regards to hunter Aspect of the Pack in the 29 bracket ... farm up a bunch of: Magic Candles

Instant cast wth a decent range... and they never expect it. I've dazed many of them that way.

Thanks for all the info.

The main reason I wanted a low level characer is that I didn't want to spend a great deal of time leveling them. I'll probably look around in my guild and try to duo with someone at the 20-29 bracket (Hunter + Paladin/Warrior/Rogue).

I do have one more question- which is the most important stat for low-level characters, considering I'll be grabbing Librams of Voracity for this character?

I believe stamina is. Without stamina, you always have the possibility of being nuked down. Your twink gear and weapons will give enough DPS, try to stam everything else up. (btw, is it possible to get the ZG enchants on non-60 characters?)

No, I believe enchanting them makes them soulbound.
Edit: At least for the shoulder enchants.

I can confirm that ZG enchants soulbind items :S I tried it - if you want I can post the sad, sad screenshot.

post it

Hunters at 19 are crazy, 29 they still hold their own quite well.

I started playing a night elf hunter on a PvE server. I loved the lower level BGs, but everybody was a carebear and the population was 3 alliance to 1 horde, so I rerolled to a PvP server about a year ago. I started playing in the 10-19 bracket at about... level 10. I did a bit of grinding, but the majority of my exp came from token turn ins. I hit honored with WSG at 19, and revered at 29. I wore nothing but instance blues and AH greens. My enchants were a bit lacking, stuff like 35 hp to chest.

WSG was my playground. I was topping the KB lists since the lower teens. Get a good slow weapon and you'll dominate the 10-19 bracket, and possibly the 20-29. Casters are easy targets to pick off from long range, no slowly stealthing up to them required. Warriors could be a pain with hamstring, but they don't get intercept until 30, so if you can put them in combat at range they're easily kited. Rogues are a joke at 19. They get off an ambush. Then you wing clip (with a juicy raptor strike with your slow 2hander too) them and kite. Once they get crippling poison at 20 they're harder, but if it doesn't proc they're easily kited.

Rogues are the typical WSG twinks, but hunters either trounce them or hold their own, depending on which bracket you're in. Plus, since you can pick off juicy casters from range, you kill much faster than a rogue that must stealth into melee.

The most fun thing ever is kiting the majority of your opponent's team, including a few rogue twinks, in a figure 8 around WSG while your team wins the game.

I'd go tauren hunter, the 5% hp and warstomp is great, plus you have ghost wolf on your side and don't have to deal with frost shock.

I'd recommend the middle marks build, with enough hp you'll probably run out of mana and be waiting for somebody to kill you. Don't neglect the int gear.

P.S. Definitely go for a slow two hander, not two one handers with agility. It's worth it for the huge raptor strike crits on rogues and clothies.

I am a huge fan of the twink rogue 19, at 29 hunter is my favorite.

For my rogue I have a couple of set ups.

Cruel barb X2 (+15 agi)
or
Stinging Viper X2 (+Fiery/+Icy)

Feet of the Lynx (Run speed)
Leather Wrists of the monkey +9 stam.
Gloves of the fang (+15 Agi)
Leggings of the Fang +8 agi (and another pair with +100 health)
Deviate scale Belt
Engi Goggles (+100 health)
Blackend Defias Armor (+100 heath)
Seal of Sylvanas
Ring of Monkey
Glowing Lizard Scale Cloak (+3 Agi)
Serpent Shoulders

Max engi with heaps of Explosive Sheep, dynamite, stun bombs.
Tons of lvl 12 health Pots and Swiftness.

Unless you are up agaist casters or a rogue with fiery use the agi weapons, if you are against a fiery rogue use fiery + icey(or lifestealing) and hit point pants instead of agi pants.

Steathing is strategic from time to time but will cost you lots of kills. Gouge + bomb = :P