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Old 11/08/06, 5:54 PM   #26
Pyros
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One thing also, if you find yourself losing your target randomly, it might be because you don't have Sticky Targetting option on(Interface menu in base wow client). What it does is prevents you from unselecting your target by left clicking somewhere. It happens if you mouse look often with LMB, sometimes you'll lose your target.

As for the rest, everyone has its own things, I'm a ToT and /assist maniac to find what to attack and who's attacking what(or what's attacking who...). I can also usually tell who has mob aggro just from looking at where they're going, it's usualyl always the same healers who pull aggro with preemptive healing on untanked mobs, and being horde, it's usually always the same fat tauren shaman with orange shoulders, so it's easy ^^.

And yeah, playing RTS will improve your ability to pick targets fast with a left(or right for autoattack)click.

Tab+clicks+assists are usually all you'll ever need for PvP targetting.

Also if you're a hunter, there's an addon that lets you pick target from your minimap tracking dots, which is AWESOME for group PvP assists when everyone is assisting you and you need to pick a target before they're even in range/visible.

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Old 11/08/06, 6:38 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Sunna
Useful as they were, none of the posts I read address one of my most fundamental and irritating problems: Efficiently and quickly acquiring the right target.

How do you find the right mob to peel off when there are several warriors and you haven't bothered to spend time on assigning targets? Is there some magic way to identify untanked mobs?
Try Cirk's Targetz. My current guild leader pointed me in the direction of this addon and it's pretty useful. It displays the name of anyone in your raid who is targeting a mob in the tooltip when you mouse over it. If you're into making addons, with a little modification you could even have it color code names in the tooltip by class, only list warriors/bears or have some sort of indicator, or change the tooltip background color when a mob has no warriors/bears targeting it.

Cirk's Targetz: http://www.wowinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=4567

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Old 11/08/06, 7:31 PM   #28
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There is also a mod that show's (in the mouse hover tooltip) what that mob has targetted. It's good for a caster as it shows "YOU" in big bold white lettering.
The name of it escapes me at the moment, but I'll be able to check my mod list tonight, and tell you, if no body else replies with the name by then.

http://ctprofiles.net/13134

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Old 11/08/06, 8:38 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by krucifix85
I like that idea, is it possible to bind things like "shift + scroll up" ?
With the default Blizzard key bindings configuration, that does not seem to be possible. However, maybe someone here can point you toward addons that might be able to fulfill your wishes.

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Old 11/08/06, 8:39 PM   #30
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there was a mod that when activated, when you press tab it would skip all mobs that are targeting a warrior.
let me look for the link

edit : found it http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/a...arttarget.html
old addon but it might still work with no or minor modifications.


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Originally Posted by krucifix85
There is also a mod that show's (in the mouse hover tooltip) what that mob has targetted. It's good for a caster as it shows "YOU" in big bold white lettering.
The name of it escapes me at the moment, but I'll be able to check my mod list tonight, and tell you, if no body else replies with the name by then.
this is what i use for that : http://paradoxguild.net/gogu/SimpleMouseoverTarget.rar
it looks like this : http://paradoxguild.net/gogu/tot.jpg (lower right corner above the normal tooltip).

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Old 11/08/06, 8:53 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by krucifix85
There is also a mod that show's (in the mouse hover tooltip) what that mob has targetted. It's good for a caster as it shows "YOU" in big bold white lettering.
The name of it escapes me at the moment, but I'll be able to check my mod list tonight, and tell you, if no body else replies with the name by then.
TinyTip and AF Tooltip both do that I believe.

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Old 11/08/06, 11:42 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by Altima
Originally Posted by krucifix85
I like that idea, is it possible to bind things like "shift + scroll up" ?
With the default Blizzard key bindings configuration, that does not seem to be possible. However, maybe someone here can point you toward addons that might be able to fulfill your wishes.
I had my minimap zoom in/out bound to shift+scroll, so I'm fairly certain it's possible.

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Old 11/09/06, 12:28 AM   #33
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Smart Target. I unfortunately have not yet tried it with the latest patch since I rerolled out of warrior, but this is (or was) the king of PVE offtanking addons. It provides a function you can bind to a macro or key that "smart targets" things similar to how tab does, with a priority system.

Smart Target targets monsters that are targetting cloth first, then leather, then mail, then finally plate. Each time you cycle through targets with tab or Smart Target, a bright and class-colored name message appears at the top of your screen telling you the target of the monster you just selected.

This addon is utterly amazing for offtanking - you just mash it a few times if you think something's loose and you have it targetted in a fraction of a second.

PVP is another story. A combination of clicking on players, clicking on name plates, tab targetting, and liberal usage of an extensive list of Main Assist targets is how I attempt to sort through the chaos that is twenty players stuffed in a WSG flag room.

I feel targetting is probably one of WoW's weakest features in fast-paced PVP fights. Often feels you fight the game more than you do your enemies.

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Old 11/09/06, 12:17 PM   #34
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As a healer in PvP targetting is one of my biggest hurdles to speed. So you understand where my left hand is, I use ESDF for movement.

G = Target Nearest Enemy
Shift G = Target Nearest Friendly
Ctrl G = Assist Target

In addition all my spells are bound to land on the Target or the TargetTarget depending on the nature of the spell and whether or not the Target is Friendly. So casting Flash Heal will result in casting it on the Target if it's friendly or on the TargetTarget if hostile. Similarly Mind Blast will cast on the Target if hostile or the TargetTarget if friendly.

Either way, liberal use of the ASSIST function has done wonders for me.

The only new addition that I want to use in TBC is to have the "V" toggle tied to the Alt key being depressed. I use Alt for Click Casting, so having it also show health while that button is down would be very useful to me.

Combine that with informational Decurse and Emergency Monitor Windows and I'm set.

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Old 11/09/06, 1:25 PM   #35
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What about the speed at which the camera re-adjusts it's zoom level? Anyone know a way to make that near instant? That has always irritated me like in Warsong or any other place when you are trying to manipulate the camera to look around corners and you constantly have to keep waiting for it's slow ass to re-adjust.

http://ctprofiles.net/1391975

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Old 11/09/06, 3:09 PM   #36
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The mouse wheel works well for me.

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Old 11/09/06, 3:15 PM   #37
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Somewhat on the same topic, theres something called focus target on TBC, has anyone played extensivly with it ?
You basicaly have a keybinding to set a target as focus target and then you press another key and you automaticly have it targeted back... The target box has a big flashy effect around it... I'll take a screenshot once i get home but that thing seems like it would be really really good for stuff like gothik, but while leveling the uses have been rather limited... I havent been able to see if it has any use in raids either but the uses could be interesting.

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Old 11/09/06, 4:16 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by Mandilo
What about the speed at which the camera re-adjusts it's zoom level? Anyone know a way to make that near instant? That has always irritated me like in Warsong or any other place when you are trying to manipulate the camera to look around corners and you constantly have to keep waiting for it's slow ass to re-adjust.
http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=oTweaks/

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Old 11/09/06, 5:19 PM   #39
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A guild-mate had a question I had no answer to - is there a way to alter the 45 degree arc that tab-target searches, so that its narrower? I think he wants to be able to use his camera angle to define the exact direction that the targets should be tabbed through.

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Old 11/09/06, 6:13 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by Juli
Originally Posted by Sunna
Useful as they were, none of the posts I read address one of my most fundamental and irritating problems: Efficiently and quickly acquiring the right target.

How do you find the right mob to peel off when there are several warriors and you haven't bothered to spend time on assigning targets? Is there some magic way to identify untanked mobs?
Try Cirk's Targetz. My current guild leader pointed me in the direction of this addon and it's pretty useful. It displays the name of anyone in your raid who is targeting a mob in the tooltip when you mouse over it. If you're into making addons, with a little modification you could even have it color code names in the tooltip by class, only list warriors/bears or have some sort of indicator, or change the tooltip background color when a mob has no warriors/bears targeting it.

Cirk's Targetz: http://www.wowinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=4567
If this works how I think it does, this is amazing.

NOW I'll get on the backs of those split DPSers. Oh sweet, sweet revenge.

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Old 11/09/06, 6:23 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Malan
A guild-mate had a question I had no answer to - is there a way to alter the 45 degree arc that tab-target searches, so that its narrower? I think he wants to be able to use his camera angle to define the exact direction that the targets should be tabbed through.
oTweaks:
otravi_Tweaks
Description

This add on gives you the ability to change some uncommon settings in WoW. Mainly:

* Combat log distances:
o Hostile range
o Hostile pets range
o Friendly range
o Friendly pet range
o Party members range
o Party members’ pets range
o Death message range
* Camera settings:
o Maximum zoom distance
o Zoom speed
* Targeting settings:
o Tab targeting range
o Tab targeting radius
http://wowace.com/files/oTweaks/oTweaks-r15658.zip

Third time it's linked in this thread now :)

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Old 11/09/06, 7:01 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Darkchani
Somewhat on the same topic, theres something called focus target on TBC, has anyone played extensivly with it ?
You basicaly have a keybinding to set a target as focus target and then you press another key and you automaticly have it targeted back... The target box has a big flashy effect around it... I'll take a screenshot once i get home but that thing seems like it would be really really good for stuff like gothik, but while leveling the uses have been rather limited... I havent been able to see if it has any use in raids either but the uses could be interesting.
great for healers (focus MT, can swap around while keeping eye on MT) can see some minimal uses for DPS classes I suppose (maybe MA?). hunters could set it to MT and use their "dump my threat onto this other guy" talent.

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Old 11/10/06, 2:44 AM   #43
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I was able to change the zoom speed with the mousewheel using the wowiki info, but still not exactly what I was looking for. What I was interested in was the camera's "adjust" speed when you are inside a building and your camera moves in and out depending on which direction you are moving it and where the wall(s) are behind you or blocking your camera's angle/etc. I wanted this to be near instant but after experimenting with almost all of those different variables wowiki provided I don't think it's one of the options listed.

Just to make sure I'm not misunderstood again, an example would be when you are on the 2nd floor balcony in wsg flag room. If you have your camera zoom distance set somewhat far out, and you are facing the hallway towards outside the camera will be very close to you because of the wall behind you. If you rotate the camera to your right it will swing out into the flag room. The speed at which it does this is what I was interested in making much faster.

http://ctprofiles.net/1391975

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Old 11/10/06, 8:30 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Ignayshus
In addition all my spells are bound to land on the Target or the TargetTarget depending on the nature of the spell and whether or not the Target is Friendly. So casting Flash Heal will result in casting it on the Target if it's friendly or on the TargetTarget if hostile. Similarly Mind Blast will cast on the Target if hostile or the TargetTarget if friendly.
How did you do that? Lots of macros?

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Old 11/10/06, 10:47 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Leviandan
Originally Posted by Malan
A guild-mate had a question I had no answer to - is there a way to alter the 45 degree arc that tab-target searches, so that its narrower? I think he wants to be able to use his camera angle to define the exact direction that the targets should be tabbed through.
otravi_Tweaks
o Tab targeting radius
Third time it's linked in this thread now :)
Negative ghost rider. A radius is a distance from a center point. That is NOT what I asked about. Tab Target looks through a 45 degree arc. My question was if there is a way to reduce that to something like a 30 degree arc so that it only searches targets in front of you.

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Old 11/10/06, 11:28 AM   #46
Ignayshus
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Originally Posted by Kaacee
Originally Posted by Ignayshus
In addition all my spells are bound to land on the Target or the TargetTarget depending on the nature of the spell and whether or not the Target is Friendly. So casting Flash Heal will result in casting it on the Target if it's friendly or on the TargetTarget if hostile. Similarly Mind Blast will cast on the Target if hostile or the TargetTarget if friendly.
How did you do that? Lots of macros?
Yes. I used to use Groupbuttons or DUF to do this, I can't remember which, but before I took a break from WoW I got into writing narrowly defined scripts and macros.

I can't give you my script bc my priest account is currently inactive, nor can I test this at work, however this should work. Just replace Flash Heal with whatever healing spell you prefer. It should cast on target if friendly, if not, on targettarget if friendly and if all else fails on you.

/script local C,s,U,t,T,p,S=CastSpellByName,"Flash Heal",UnitIsFriend,"target","targettarget","player",SpellTargetUnit if U(p,t) then C(s) S(t) else if U(p,T) then C(s) S(T) else C(s,1) end end


And this should work for damage spells.

/script local C,s,t,T,S=CastSpellByName,"Mind Blast","target","targettarget",SpellTargetUnit if UnitIsFriend("player",t) then C(s) S(T) else C(s) S(t) end

Edit: Now just put the macro on the hotbar where you normally have that spell, and bind it to a hotkey and you're good to go. You have to do one for Greater Heal, Heal, Renew, etc...

It will actually be much easier to do in TBC:
/cast [help] Flash Heal; [harm, target=targettarget] Flash Heal

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Old 11/10/06, 12:40 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Malan
Negative ghost rider. A radius is a distance from a center point. That is NOT what I asked about. Tab Target looks through a 45 degree arc. My question was if there is a way to reduce that to something like a 30 degree arc so that it only searches targets in front of you.
Did you actually try it? While the cvar may be misnamed, that's exactly what it does.

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