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Old 12/13/06, 4:57 PM   #26
Tynnan
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Originally Posted by TseTse
I have this going over on the official beta forum too. http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thre...340665&sid=1#0


The buzz is really going now... and folks in "llve" are increasingly sorta waking up to the reality that an expansion is on the way. There is a lot of tension, frustration, confusion, delight and exaggeration about TBC and it's reality in terms of existing gear. Guilds are making tough decisions. Folks are negotiating priorities.

Let's carefully share notes on this, ok? No exaggerations allowed. Let's come up with some honest guidelines on what we're seeing in terms of gear/items and how fast people replace them.

So, beta testers, go ahead and answer these questions as directly as you can:

1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)

If you said no to any of those, please explain why and what you think is a more accurate statement.
1. http://ctprofiles.net/380526 for details, but: Rank 10 pvp gear, exalted WSG, ZG, Cenarion Circle, Taut Dragonhide Shoulders. Healing gear from ZG, 2 pc t2.

2. I have achieved level 70 on my Druid. In my feral set I have replaced every single piece, all by the time I reached 70, some multiple times. I have replaced less of my healing set, maybe 2-3 pieces, but these were significant upgrades. (Healing 1H, ring).

3. If I receive an upgrade, I replace the appropriate piece. There is nothing about Azerothian gear that lends it longevity in Outlands. (The one exception is Stormrage Kilt + ZG enchant: I'll wear that until something just as good-looking comes along that is a significant upgrade over the enchanted piece. Purely aesthetic reasons, although the piece itself is quite good.)

4. Gold is easy, repairs are cheap. No need to change gear to accomodate repairs.

5. I spent some time running Blood Furnace to try and get Vest of Vengeance (leather DPS chest), but that never dropped. I moved on to Zangarmarsh and got the Cenarion Expedition chest piece, Warden's Hauberk, instead. Much easier. I've since replaced that with a green quest reward from Netherstorm.

6.
a.) Definitely
b.)
c.) B and C are a little fuzzier. I think that this bracket will really depend on personal preference, as well as what rewards are chosen from a set of quest rewards, for example. I do notice quite a bit of players at 70 still wearing their tier 2 or tier 3 sets, however. I think there are upgrades for tier 2 to be found in these brackets but it is harder to find gear to replace tier 3. More side-grades than raw upgrades.
d.) Agree

e.) Agree: I've kept most of my Azerothian healing set along the way from 60 to 70.
f.) Agree.

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Old 12/13/06, 5:07 PM   #27
Cathela
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1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
For soloing and general mucking around, solid T2. Full Judgement, Herald of Woe, BWL trinkets. For one-hand work, Malistar's Defender and generally Spineshatter. I favor stamina/HP enchants above everything else, which I think impacts my gear replacement rate in light of the change to stamina itemization. The only piece of gear I usually wear below T2 level is the blue PvP cape, which I won't replace until I can get something with comparable stamina.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
Level 65.

At present I still use full Judgement for solo work. Trinkets and cape are new, as is one ring. Still wearing the same neck and the other ring.

The weapons and shield I still haven't come close to replacing.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
I'm still wearing judgement because of the set bonuses, and the fact that most of my stuff is stamina-enchanted, which makes the BC replacement pieces less attractive than they might otherwise be.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
No. The rate at which you gain gold is so much higher in BC that even epic repair costs are trivial.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
No.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)

(a) and (b) sound about right. I really can't speak to (c), (d), or (e) since I haven't reached 70 and don't have any T3 on the beta. (f) seems about right as a ballpark guess, but I can't say anything authoritative on that.

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Old 12/13/06, 5:12 PM   #28
Antarius
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Tauren Paladin
 
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1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
Full Nemesis set, a few items of slightly higher quality than the Tier 2 set, such as ebony flame gauntlets, bracers of arcane energy, Vek'Lor Offhand, Chromag Claw, DM trinket / Talisman of Ascendance.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
I'm level 68 in the beta, and haven't logged in during the last month. I have, gotten replacements for pretty much every slot except my Band of Dark Dominion, Ebony Flame Gauntlets, Nemesis Helm and Nemesis Leggings, the enchants on those 3 items were pretty much irreplacable on the beta server.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
Yes, I used the 5 piece Nemesis Bonus for a long time for the massive amount of resists it gives to pets. Now I still use the 3 piece Nemesis Bonus (legs, pants, wrists) in order to gain the +23 spell damage.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
Nope, gold is pretty much worthless on the Beta Server, Even though I'm wearing alot of blues I don't honestly think my repair costs have gone down that much.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
No, I was usually in the first batches of people in the closed beta to experience the content. I was running the dungeons just for the experience and knowledge, the Tier 2 replacement items are "mostly" easily attainable quests involving the boss of the dungeon and are easily locatable.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?
a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
yes
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
yes
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
yes
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)
yes

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
yes, also, some items are, at best, sidegrades, and enchants may especially make the item harder to replace.

f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)
Yes

If you said no to any of those, please explain why and what you think is a more accurate statement.

A more accurate statement would be to say "blues" and not "greens/blues" The only green items I use is the 2 piece netherweave set bonus(+23 spell dmg, same as 3 piece Nemesis), and a green +spell dmg trinket.

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Old 12/13/06, 5:42 PM   #29
dakalro
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Do +23 dmg set bonuses actually stack now? Or other same spell bonuses? As they didn't on live

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Old 12/13/06, 6:09 PM   #30
Papajan
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Lightbringer
I wish I had seen this earlier, I've kept a log for EB mages (see the end for just the log)

1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
See profile to the side - same stuff except NW gloves instead of FF.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
I'm lvl68 and have replaced chest, bracers/boots (PvP only), and ZHC.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
I kept Staff of Shadow Flame over Staff of Gurgthock (aka Battle Mage's Baton) cause Gurg didn't enchant it for me.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
No

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
I deliberately got the Mark of Defiance, which is like a quest.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces
yes

b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces
no, that hasn't been my experience. Well, I didn't go for Netherwind, so I'd replace some NW with blues if I were using them. But my gear is t2-equivalent I think.

c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces
So far, no, but I'm only lvl68.

d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear
No, leveling with quests goes too fast to get instance drops I want. Also, instance drops before 70 will be replaced and I don't want to spend money on ZG enchants, Aldor rep, etc, so I wouldn't enchant pre-70 gear with any serious enchants.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly
yes

f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort
no clue

My log for mages with comparable gear:

61-62 - replaced [Zandalarian Hero Charm] with [Vengeance of the Illidari]. It was like a lvl63 elite I had to kill with a group (not snareable, lots of HP), which was sortof a chained quest from another line (a mob at the end of the other line drops an item that starts this line).

61-62 - I considered upgrading [Mantle of the Blackwing Cabal] to [Destroyers' Mantle], but it's a downgrade without the ZG enchant and I don't have one of those lying around.

62-63 - replaced [Vengeance of the Illidari] with [Glowing Crystal Insignia]. The quest wasn't too bad, maybe a short chain. The Vengeance lags when you cast it, so you have to wait half a second before casting and I really hated that. This one also has a passive effect that doesn't erode as you level.

63 - replaced [Briarwood Reed] with [Mark of Defiance]. I could've gotten it at 62, but it took me this long to get 30 Mark of Honor Hold from PvP.

63.99999 - replaced [Zandalar Illusionist's Robe] with [Robes of the Augurer] using gems from the Honor Hold alpha/beta vendor - +7 damage, +3 scr/+4 dam, +4 dam/4 sta

Since that broke the Zandalar set bonus (finally!), I have two different sets now for the other slots:
PvE: [Netherwind Bindings] and [Ringo's Blizzard Boots]
PvP: [Netherweave Bracers] and [Netherweave Boots]

65 - replaced [Dragon Finger of Spirit] with [Magician's Wand of Spirit] (+12 spi) in my evo set

66 - I would've replaced [Staff of the Shadow Flame] with [Battle Mage's Baton] but it's a downgrade unenchanted.

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Old 12/15/06, 8:41 AM   #31
frosty[bo]
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Murloc Mage
 
Dentarg (EU)
1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
a mixture of naxx/cthun gear, mostly non-sets. see for urself: http://ctprofiles.net/3983077


2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
i reached lvl 70 and i replaced my wand (got the nagrand safari one), one ring (nagrand blue q-reward, but i didnt have the FF ring when i transfered my char) and one trinket (from the elite-demon q in hellfire). i would have replaced much more if i had the opportunity and will to enchant/socket new gear, e.g. the strong headgear from a nagrand q (the one with crit, hit and 50 dmg). i also have 2 gloves that would be a lot better than my current ones if socketed and enchanted, same with like 2 chest armors i have in my bank. i would have switched boots and wrists too (read below). i also accidentally vendored a back that would have been a bit better for grinding mobs around my level than my current one (it had nice dmg +critrating), but i didnt do the maths ;)

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
im still wearing FF wrists and boots for -1 min evo CD, but i have wrists/boots in my bank that are better actually when ignoring the setbonus

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
nah, i didnt die much and u earn enough money anyway by questing

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
i didnt even do much dungeons anyway, mostly on lvl 65-66 when the quests got less and the NS quests werent available. most of the items i replaced are quest rewards btw.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
no. its more like t2. hell, i even found green world-drop wrists that have t3 quality on lvl 61 or so (i think they had like ~22 dmg and ~12 crit rating)

b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
no. defo better. at least t2.5/cthun gear and comparable to the weak t3 parts. note, that not all t3 items have the same "power". mages t3 shoulders, legs, gloves and belt for example are total crap and inferiour to quest rewards/drops from nagrand or auchindoun or CoT, while head, robes and ring are better in comparison.

c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
yes. on lvl 70 u get to finish ur gear, for example with a staff from a NS outdoor elite quest, thats comparable to brimstone staff

d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no).
yes. i think i will replace more than i keep, but note that i skipped the crappy t3 set mostly and went for non-set items in naxx. stuff like rime-covered shoulders and esp. leggings of polarity will imo defo "survive" the pre-70 gear, but theres still enough stuff to be replaced.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
no. as i said before, most of the items i got where from quest rewards, and u must be really dumb if u dont quest in order to level up, b/c thats imo the fastest way. so u will get the good gear automatically.

f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)
yes. easily. i doubt that i needed more than 100 hrs to get to 70, although i cant recall exactly anymore. maybe the phases when i did 5 man auchindoun runs took a bit longer. but what i remember is, that it took me ~9 hrs to get from 69-70, which needs 1 mio exp. well, it WAS 1 mio exp back then, b/c they apparently reduced the exp needed now ...

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Old 12/15/06, 10:02 AM   #32
calisti
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Gilneas
1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

My gear is kinda crappy, but my warlock is only a few months old. I actually have better gear now. This is just what I had when I copied to the beta server.

Nemesis Helmet / Shoulders / Gloves
Crappy Blue Necklace
Necro-Knight's Garb
Veil of Eclipse
Zandalar Demonaic Bracers
Sash of Whispered Secrets
Flarecore Leggings
Crappy Blue Boots
Band of Servitude / Songstone of Irongforge
Eye of the Beast / Royal Seal of Eldre'thelas
Azuresong Mageblade (+30 spell damage)
Master Dragonslayer Orb
Ritsyn's Wand of Bad Mojo

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

Level 70. I've replaced everything but my master dragonslayer orb, veil of eclipse, and three nemesis pieces. I could replace my nemesis helmet and shoulders and make up for the set bonus loss, but I'd lose 70 hit points.

I've replaced my robe, bracers, belt, pants, and boots with crafter netherweave gear. Trinkets and rings and wands were easily replaced via quest rewards. I replaced my mageblade with a green dagger I found on the auction house (instance drops have been non-existent for me).

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

No, because I have yet to find any gear combinations that give more damage and stamina than my three nemesis items. I'm sure this would change if the instances would ever drop cloth while I'm there.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

No. Money is easy to come by

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

Yes, but the gods of random loot generation hate me. I guess I need to sacrifice a virgin to an active volcano or something...

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)

Yup

b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)

Maybe. Depends on class

d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

Yup

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Old 12/15/06, 11:40 AM   #33
Redux
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Redux, 60 Troll Mage

1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
Good gear, Aq40/Naxx gear
Profile: http://ctprofiles.net/447510
2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
Achieved Level 63.9 ish.
I have only fully replaced one item, however I have replaced 4/8 of my T2 backup gear with little to no extra effort.
3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
I have found that getting items from Outlands usually results in taking a nerf in +dmg to get that extra stamina. I have found my self using my current high +dmg items. I also have found +hit helps quite a bit for leveling due to the fact you are often grinding on mobs of a higher level than yours.
4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
No, gold has been more than flowing for me.
5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
Not particularly. However, I like to run instances more than grinding mobs or doing "Kill 20 of x" quests.
6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
Even the first greens you get are better.
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
Yes, even at level 63 I've replaced half my T2.
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
Can't speak for it, but so far my impressions is they are about equal.
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)
Don't know. Doesn't appear so for PvE, but for PvP that extra stam is pretty much mandatory.
e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
Only way I see you doing this is if you grind mobs instead of questing/instancing. Quest rewards are very good (Tier 2 ish).
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)
So far, that's about the pace I've been on. I'm a slower leveler though.

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Old 12/15/06, 12:27 PM   #34
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1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

Tier 3 healing gear, I was missing a DFT from an optimal feral kit, and t2/2.5 balance gear.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

70, most of it.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

I haven't broken down the Dreamwalker, although I have several pieces that are better.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

Noone cares about gold in beta - one, it's easy to earn more legitamitely - two, many guild banks died to bring us this freedom from repairs

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

Yes, quite a bit of random farming in my off hours.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?


a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

Yes to most of this, although there's specific pieces of t3 for each class that will be hard to find good replacements for - most of that has been reported, we'll see if it's fixed for live.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)

Accurate, but you will replace most.

f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)

Not a chance with the current curve.

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Old 12/31/06, 10:13 PM   #35
Kalman
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1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

6 pieces of T3 (no ring, chest, head), Maexxna's/BQP, Striker's Mark, BoN/MDSR for rings, OTP for a neck. Trinkets suck, BHB/Earthstrike. AQ20 set cloak.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

Just hit 70 a couple days ago; replaced my Pugio and moved Maexxna's to offhand from mainhand, replaced my Striker's, replaced my Ony neck, replaced both of my trinkets (Bladefist's/Uniting Charm right now).

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

Sort of. There are pieces I've gotten that could arguably have been superior to BS pieces, but aren't worth it without being able to re-enchant them (specifically, shoulders are the worst culprit here.)

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

No.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

Not yet, but on live, I will definitely be running Shadow Labs a lot. Murmur needs to love me.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)

Yes.

b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)

Yes.

c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)

No. 70 blues are where you'll replace T3, at least for a rogue.

d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

No. *At* level 70, yes, but definitely not by level 70. The chief benefit of T3 is that it will last you til 70.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)

Yes, especially if you're wearing significant Naxx gear *and* are a DPS class.

f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)

Absolutely. I did it with ~90 hours /played, with minimal rest XP. The key for a fast level is to not spend much time in the instances; on live I'll probably level slower due to more time in instances.

Melador> Incidentally, these last few pages are why people hate lawyers.
Viator> I really don't want to go all Kalman here.
Bury> Just imagine what the world would be like if you used your powers for good.

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Old 01/01/07, 12:07 AM   #36
Mirajj
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1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
~ Full DragonStalker, Here for more details. http://ctprofiles.net/213815

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
~69 1/3 and climbing. So far I've replaced my bow, main hand, neck, cloak, rings, and a trinket.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
~No. Though the 8/8 DS is pretty powerful.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
~Not even considered it.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
~No, but this may change as I've just been mostly questing, not running instances/dungeons.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no) Yes
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no) Yes. I see stuff that makes me think "Well, if I wasn't already in full T2, that's be a really good piece" and I've toyed with the idea of cobbling those pieces together in live to see what they come out like.
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no) No. I see a lot of T3 folks still in their T3 gear.
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no) No. I doubt my armor will be replaced.
e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no). Yes
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no) Completely depends on the person and the speed they want to level with. I've put no great emphasis on levelling, but I've reached 69, and am likely to reach 70 in a couple of days.

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Old 01/01/07, 12:35 AM   #37
Feer
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
The Maelstrom (EU)
1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

For DPS/grinding: mix of AQ40 set, world green dragon loot and rank 8-10 PvP pieces, MC/BWL ring/trinkets.

For healing: Tier 2/AQ40 loot and Tier 3 gloves + Benediction

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

Level 67. For DPS replaced everything but AQ40 pieces. Healing set is almost as was on live, apart for getting finally rid of Benediction. This is due to fact that leveling instances haven't dropped much healing loot, apart from some trinkets and given choice of healing or DPS gear, I've chosen DPS.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

2 piece +spell damage set bonus on PvP pieces kept me using it longer than they would otherwise lasted. Also having good enchants on item makes some of them last longer than they otherwise would.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

No, gold isn't issue at all in TBC so far.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

No, due to not being 70 yet.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)


yes

b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)

yes

c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)

no. Socketed items come close or are equal, but set bonuses generally favor tier 3 pieces.

d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

no. as above.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)

yes

f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)

yes

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Old 01/01/07, 1:01 AM   #38
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1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

Check my CTProfile for exact details. 3/8 T2 (hooray Trans bonus), 4/9 T3, Boots of Pure Thought, C'Thun Mace, Rejuv Gem.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

70. I have replaced one trinket, one ring, and my weapon. I have an upgrade to Faith Gloves from Karazhan but I don't want to break 4 piece/don't have it enchanted yet.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

Yes. I use GHeal 7 as my "staple" heal on most raids so far, so the 4 piece Faith is worth it. Also, I am still using 3 piece Transcendence even though there are direct upgrades (piece for piece) available, they would require enchants and sockets in order to make them all better.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

No.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

I run whatever my guild's doing. I have done a lot of the instances, but I normally don't run them for something in particular.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no) I have upgraded a lot of my Shadow DPS loot, but that was not my main focus in live.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)

If you said no to any of those, please explain why and what you think is a more accurate statement.
d) Most of Tier3ish pieces are upgraded in Karazhan it appears; some are, some aren't.

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Old 01/01/07, 12:33 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by TseTse
1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
5/8 Dragonstalker, Cryptstalker belt and bracers, Black Grasp of the Destroyer, Onyxia neck, Cloak of Shrouded Mists, exalted brood ring, master dragonslayer ring, DFT, badge of the swarmguard. Weapons were silithid claw, hunter aq20 axe, and crossbow of smiting. Yes, I know that's 11% hit, but that's what I had at the time.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
I'm level 70. The only level 60 equipment I'm still using are DS helmet (with ZG enchant), Black Grasp (not gonna see an upgrade to that), and DFT. The melee weapons I havn't replaced yet mainly because they're enchanted and I don't want to be bothered enchanting new weapons with 15 agility (which requires farming silithus air elementals still). I have found upgrades to them, I just didn't take them because of the enchant issue. Same with the helm, basically.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
I kept 5/8 Dragonstalker while leveling for a long time for the added pet health and resistances. I think I finally broke the set bonus at like 65 or 66.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
No need.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
Yes, but no luck.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
Yes, except ZG enchanted ones.

b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
Yes, except for ZG enchants.

c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
They're about equal, at least for Hunters. My bracers and belt were only upgraded because I wanted to use the Ebon Netherscale set.

d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)
Absolutely, unless you're full tier 3.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
Well, I didn't replace all of mine, so I guess that answers that.

f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)
5 days /played? Dunno, it's about 5 or 6 mil experience, maybe a bit more. Mobs at or near level give around 500 experience, which would be 200 hours if all you did was grind mobs at an average rate of one per minute (counting trips to town and so on).

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Old 01/01/07, 5:16 PM   #40
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1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
http://ctprofiles.net/22944

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
Level 70, replaced my wand with: http://ctprofiles.net/22944 and replaced ToEP with: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=821

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
The copy of my character on beta has NW pants, and i still havent replaced those at level 70(yet). and breaking 6 piece Frostfire is hard to do.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
Gold is easy as hell to obtain. In 60-70 i gained 1200g without doing Shadowmoon Valley/Netherstorm quests yet.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
Not yet because tier 3 and such is hard to relace.


6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)
a) Some pieces yes, other pieces no.
b) A few pieces, mainly no.
c) Not a chance.
d) If your in less than full tier 2/2.5 sure, but mainly no.
e) No, because in order to level quickly you will do all the quests anyways.
f) Sure, if you dont do any redundent killing of mobs. i.e killing some mobs 3 different times for 3 different quests.


As a side note, there are shoulder/pants/helm upgrades along the way, but due to the lack of availability of enchants, they are not upgrades. So if you want to us them, bring an extra ZG enchant for shoulders/head/legs into TBC, it will help.

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Old 01/01/07, 5:55 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by dakalro
Do +23 dmg set bonuses actually stack now? Or other same spell bonuses? As they didn't on live
I believe this was fixed on live as well.

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Old 01/01/07, 6:14 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by dakalro
Do +23 dmg set bonuses actually stack now? Or other same spell bonuses? As they didn't on live
They've stacked for quite some time on live. I've had a 3 piece nem + the blue pvp leggings/boots both for the 23 spell damage and it counts. The only place I've had issue with it counting it is ctprofile.

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Old 01/01/07, 6:48 PM   #43
Omentuva
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Trollbane (EU)
1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

Playing on a rogue with 3/8 NS, Bloodfang Hood, Madcap Bracers, Faire epic necklace and assorted blues. Spec is Dagger, weapons were Thunderwood Poker and Bonescraper, neither enchanted.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

Currently lvl 65, replaced about 1/2 of my gear. (Chest, Cloak, Bracers, Gloves, Leggings, Boots, Crossbow, both Daggers) I could have replaced some trinkets, but I haven't found a group for those needing a group, and the one quest giving a trinket which isn't a group activity is currently bugged.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

I broke the only set bonus I had pretty soon.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

Money simply isn't a problem. Making 900g + from questing to 70, as some people reported, is probably realistic. I made 500g, give or take, from leveling to 65.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
Not really.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)

A) and B) sound right, and it is what I experienced. Some greenies I got from the get-go are just a tad below T1 in quality, and I can see some T2 equivalent coming along now. I can't say anything about C) and D), haven't got there yet. E): Depends on the quality of the gear, I can see one keeping some T3 along, especially the better parts, and one might have a bit of 'bad luck'. I think one will replace about 90 % of one's gear. F): Those powerleveling will probably be able to, but PvP might ruin their chances.

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Old 01/01/07, 7:02 PM   #44
aureon
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Black Dragonflight
1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
The best shaman pewpew elemental items outside of naxx (except for rings and necklace), healing gear from mc (salamander scale=imba)/bwl/green dragons.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
64, I have replaced my breastplate, rings, necklace and cloak in terms of healing gear. For elemental, I have picked up 2 rings with some really high stamina and spell dmg, a trinket a little worse than toep, and some nice legs with high stamina, 1.5 crit and 28 spell dmg.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
Yes, there were some gauntlets actually better than ten storms gaunts, but missing out on +30 healing i didnt use them, also they cant touch 3 pc ten storms bonus for 5 mans.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
No, money is far from an issue in beta

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
Not really, I've just ran instances for fun and gotten all the items I've wanted; I did not check up on thottbot for drops or anything though because I'm not too concerned with drops (running instances for fun is better imo)

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no) yes
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no) depends on class' set bonuses, definitely not greens though.
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no) not at all, I've been with a few nightmare's asylum people who are largely still using all t3/naxx gear.
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no) yes

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no) If you are just questing and not running instances, your gear will probably be the same except for blue items, of which outside instances there are only 2 that I've done up to 64.
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no) me? no way, I explore and can't stay focused for very long unless im running instances with friends. But if you are the type of person who can make an alt to 60 in a good amount of time then yeah that sounds about right.

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Old 01/01/07, 7:51 PM   #45
Nutron
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Mal'Ganis
1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?
Mostly T3 pieces + MSA + Castigator + Drake fang talisman + Kiss of the spider + cloak of conc hatred + barbed choker + Exalted AQ ring + master ring

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?
Lvl 70. Replaced belt, cloak, neck, offhand, ranged weapon, trinket, ring

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?
Yes, mainly head and leg piece for the enchant.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?
no, money is very easy to comeby in bc...repairs were inconsequential to my treasury.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?
somewhat, but since its beta i didnt realy grind gear much.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
yes
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
yes
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
no, for the most part until karazhan, t3 pieces + bonuses are superior to most of the blue drops.
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)
no, id saya bit less than half of it.
e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
yes, i dont foresee that happening with my gear (it hasnt)
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)
yes, will take alot less than that imo (naxx gear makes 60-65 trivial for me)

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Old 01/02/07, 4:40 AM   #46
Psonica
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Shadowsong (EU)
[b]1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?[/b]

http://ctprofiles.net/82757 ...except I didn't have the AV offhand at that time when I copied my character but a lousy low level +shadow damage thing.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

I'm 70, I have replaced maybe 4 or 5 bits.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

Yes, 3 parts Nemesis is still in my bags for switching in sometimes.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

Nope, gold is a non-issue.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

Yes.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)

Yes.

b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)

Maybe.

c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)

Maybe.

d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

No. Less than half of my gear was replaced but then I didn't do much instances from 60-70.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)

Depends. On solely (solo)questiong I have to say no. When doing instances, especially after level 67ish, I think yes.

f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)

I did 60-70 solo in under 10 days /played (maybe even less than 8 days) with alot of exploring ... god, I hope they nerf the xp gain.

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Old 01/02/07, 7:32 AM   #47
Noiven
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Murloc Rogue
 
Doomhammer
1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

http://www.ctprofiles.net/761738

T3/other Naxxramas/AQ epics etc.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

70. I've replaced my necklace (Barbed Choker), my bow (Striker's Mark), one of my rings (MDR) and Kingsfall is now offhanded, meaning Maexxna's Fang is gone.. I also have a cloak that's about equal to Shroud of Dominion.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

No.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

No.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

Not for the sole purpose of getting new gear. I've run most of the 70 instances at least a few times to help someone else get loot, or finish a new quest, etc.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces - Some, yeah.
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces - Depends on class. Probably.
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces - No. I only found one item in the same league as tier 3 leveling to 70. Might be different for other classes.
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear - Anything short of the best gear in the game will be definitely replaced after reaching 70, running the upper instances. A decent amount of tier 2-2.5 stuff or worse will be gone by the time you're 70. Tier 3 or equivalent gear, for me at least, hasn't really been replaced at all.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly - Leveling quickly has nothing to do with it as instance grinding/questing are the fastest ways to level and provide the best gear. Either way, most levels of gear will be matched by the time you're 70.
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort - Absolutely. A guildmate (another rogue) and I did it in under 2.5 days /played around Christmas. I'm confident I could shorten that quite a bit now that I know what I'm doing and won't be exploring.

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Old 01/02/07, 10:45 AM   #48
Omelet
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Aggramar
1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

Healing - 6/9 Tier 3 || Solo - Tier 2

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

I'm now level 70 in beta and I've replaced one item (trinket) in my healing set. I've replaced numerous pieces in my solo set :

Necklace of Bloodied Feathers, Cenarion Casting Ring, Burning Cultist Band, blue Chest/Boots from hellfire. At level 70 I bought a couple of PVP pieces (Legs / Gloves) with the honor I've transfered over.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

Yes, I'm still keeping the 5 piece judgement bonus (+47 Damage/Healing) as I don't have enough pieces to eclipse the bonus.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

No, repair cost pale in comparison to the amount of money that you make simply doing quests.


5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

I didn't in beta. I basically tried to level as quickly as possible and ran each instance leveling once. In live I'm sure I would re-run instances multiple times to get items, as they start to be serious upgrades level 66 and above.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)

Yes. Tier 1 (especially for healing classes) is going to be replaced very quickly.

b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)

Yes, Depending on the item / slot. Non-Armor slots are replaced very quickly, but you may not be able to replace all of your Tier 2 with ~65 blue / green items.

c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)

No. Some level 70 blues are comparable to Tier 3, but I wouldn't say better.

d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)

No. Coming from Tier 3 equipment, you will be looking at nearly the same gear you have when you hit 70. I think you *could* replace a number of pieces with all the availible equipment from 5 man instances, but it would take a huge time investment to obtain all the drops.

e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)

Yes. If you simply quest you are left with whatever the rewards are, and you won't replace all your items.


f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)

At the current leveling curve, 100 hours to hit seventy is a conservative estimate.

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Old 01/02/07, 10:54 AM   #49
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1. What range of gear did you have at lvl 60?

My live profile to the left. Mostly T1/T2 quality.

2. What lvl have you achieved within beta and how much of your active equipment did you replace thus far?

68.5 and I have replaced almost everything. Crown of Destruction, Red Dragonscale Protector, and Ten Storms Gloves are quite literally the only remaining pieces of either my melee set or my healing set from live.

3. Have you kept using any weaker pieces (in light of new pieces from Outlands) in order to maintain set bonuses or perhaps for other reasons?

I held on to the 3 piece TS bonus in the mid 60s for Auchindoun but didn't really use it so I broke it when I had 2 of the 3 pieces upgraded.

4. Have you "nerfed" what you actively wear in order to negotiate repair costs?

No.

5. Have you spent any effort trying to (re)run specific quests or dungeons in order to obtain new, replacement items?

No, I did each instance once for the experience and got lucky on a few drops. The only one I would really advise obtaining as a Shaman in live is the water shield totem from the underbog because you get a LOT of mileage out of water shield.

6. Would you agree to the following basic guidelines?

a) Leveling 61-64 greens/blues will transplant some Tier1ish pieces (yes or no)
yes
b) Leveling 64-67 greens/blues will transplant some Tier2ish pieces (yes or no)
yes
c) Leveling 67-70 greens/blues will transplant some Tier3ish pieces (yes or no)
unknown
d) By level 70 you will replace most of your current gear (yes or no)
yes
e) You may not replace all of your lvl 60 items on the way to 70, esp if you level quickly (yes or no)
Bypassing some quests may cause you to miss upgrades
f) You may be able to hit level 70 with 120 hours of effort (yes or no)
Over the weekend I averaged 14-16 hours per level from 65 to 68 with almost no rested experience and no knowledge of what's in TBC. I'll do better on live. Five days might be pushing it to make 70 if you are grinding hard but most skilled players will make it in 5-7 days depending on how much they dink around.

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Old 01/02/07, 12:05 PM   #50
Cire
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Any pallies on beta with 5/5 Avenger replace it by 70? I imagine that the bonus will be tough to beat, but the leveling nerf will kill it for overall stats I would guess.

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