Arenas and You! - Page 3

Fjord · 11/29/06, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Pyros

As for arenas they don't give honor on beta either, not even in rated matches. I guess you don't get any honor for beating people in an arena from a roleplaying point of view, while you'd get some from defending "world" objectives in BGs

The Spaniard was honourable :(

Nixphoe · 11/29/06, 1:02 PM

Originally Posted by alienangel

Especially not with how annoying it would be for blind - if it cost no reagent, having a rogue on your team would mean one person on the enemy team would be out of action for 15s every game - and that's almost long enough to win a match.

This is probably just splitting hairs, but all CC effects will only last 12 seconds

- Crowd Control effects in PvP will last no longer than 12 seconds

I actually thought it was 10 seconds till I went back and looked.

Pyros · 11/29/06, 2:33 PM

2blinds=16secs, no DR on it and it lasts full duration all the time, even in arenas

marty · 11/29/06, 4:06 PM

My biggest problem with the blind reagent is that I've heard nothing of it dropping off higher level herbs. Farming lockboxes for it is just stupid as I rarely get more than 3~5 boxes/hr if i'm pickpocketing humaniods as I farm. This means I have to either rely on others to go to SM and farm fadeleaf for me or drop a profession.

jessi · 11/29/06, 4:16 PM

I guess I didn't use my terms quite right. There's arena points and honor points. You only get arena points in the arena and you only get honor points in the battleground. And you can battle the same faction for arena points, that's cool.

oldmandennis · 11/29/06, 4:34 PM

Originally Posted by Tynnan

Points(Rating) = a * (1 + m * (e^(-(Rating-adj)/tau)))/(1 + n * (e^(-(Rating-adj)/tau)))

That's for 2v2; Multiply a by 2.5 for 5v5 or by 1.5 for 3v3.

I think I heard that you only got credit for one bracket per week, whichever you got the most points for. Is this correct?

Pyros · 11/29/06, 6:56 PM

Yes you only get points for one bracket, whatever gives you the most. Means if you're like #6 5vs5 and #1 2vs2, you might get the points from 2vs2 because it's higher(those numbers are purely fictionnal). Makes doing 3vs3 or 2vs2 "backup" teams useful in case your main 5vs5 team has problems(like people quitting the game and stuff).

Zyrxil · 11/29/06, 7:54 PM

Originally Posted by Pyros

2blinds=16secs, no DR on it and it lasts full duration all the time, even in arenas

10 secs a blind actually, and it can break early. It also counts as a poison, so it's removable.

Tynnan · 11/29/06, 8:31 PM

Originally Posted by oldmandennis

Originally Posted by Tynnan

Points(Rating) = a * (1 + m * (e^(-(Rating-adj)/tau)))/(1 + n * (e^(-(Rating-adj)/tau)))

That's for 2v2; Multiply a by 2.5 for 5v5 or by 1.5 for 3v3.

I think I heard that you only got credit for one bracket per week, whichever you got the most points for. Is this correct?

Yes, that is correct.

Pyros · 11/29/06, 8:43 PM

Originally Posted by Zyrxil

Originally Posted by Pyros

2blinds=16secs, no DR on it and it lasts full duration all the time, even in arenas

10 secs a blind actually, and it can break early. It also counts as a poison, so it's removable.

Yeah 10secs, always think it's twice a scattershot but it's more than that. And I wasn't arguing it was overpowered, it's fine imo, just that I haven't seen a blind break early yet in arenas. And if you have a shaman dropping a poison cleansing totem, blinds aren't an issue really.

Zyrxil · 11/29/06, 10:19 PM

The poison thing was more of a response to:

Especially not with how annoying it would be for blind - if it cost no reagent, having a rogue on your team would mean one person on the enemy team would be out of action for 15s every game - and that's almost long enough to win a match.

Bury · 12/08/06, 2:19 PM

Arenas are live on my server as of this morning. However shard requirements are live as well; making healthstones for the group costs shards, according to the warlock I grouped with.

Sadly the Blizz site says differently:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/arena/index.xml

Soul Shard costs are reduced to zero so that warlocks can summon Healthstones for their party without needing to bring an excessive number of stones for their group. This also means that warlocks can summon pets during this period without using a soul shard.

Antiarc · 12/08/06, 2:36 PM

Originally Posted by Zyrxil

Originally Posted by Pyros

2blinds=16secs, no DR on it and it lasts full duration all the time, even in arenas

10 secs a blind actually, and it can break early. It also counts as a poison, so it's removable.

I have never, ever, ever seen a blind break early, barring damage done to the blinded target, or a poison cleansing totem/abolish poison.

DeusEx · 12/13/06, 4:19 AM

Arenas are so much fun, a pity that you don't get Honor for it. Yesterday a guildie and me joinded for a couple of 2 vs. 2 and we lost completely track of time in the process. It's been a long time I've enjoyed WoW that much. A few hours in the Arena teach you more about PvP then hanging out in the Battlegrounds for weeks.

Damage is crazy indeed atm. If you can't counter (silence, fear, sheep, stuns) a mage, you will be probably two or three shotted, if you don't go immediatley after a hunter, he will rip you to shreds, Warlocks and Shadowpriests DoTs are deadly by itself, Rogues can indeed stunlock you 100 to 0, if you can't get out of the stun with a PvP trinket. Warriors are mushrooms.

We'll have to see how it plays out, when you can actually earn Arena points, but atm it's addicting as hell :)

Heisenberg · 12/13/06, 4:35 AM

Originally Posted by Pyros

2blinds=16secs, no DR on it and it lasts full duration all the time, even in arenas

That may be so, but that would require two rogues.

Preparation changed to "When activated, this ability instantly refreshes the cooldown on your Evasion, Sprint, Vanish, Cold Blood, Adrenaline Rush, and Premeditation abilities."