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12/06/06, 3:16 AM
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Piston Honda
Abigor
Tauren Rogue
No WoW Account
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* Alliance gets shaman-drops (Ten Storms etc), Horde gets paladin-drops (Lawbringer etc).
* Frost trap bugged for hunters, snare does not go away after leaving the trap radius (thanks for this Blizzard).
* AV turn-ins boosts your Draenei/Blood Elf reputations.
* New loading-screens chokka full of scantily-clad females. Urgh.
* Bank items/slots disappearing for quite a few people.
* Group events cause a metallic clicking sound to fire.
Edits:
This is for US realms, EU realms will be up in approximately 4 hours. I don't expect EU realms to recieve a "better" patch however. Hopefully the bank issue will be fixed before EU realms are opened.
Drysc on new drops:
"This patch introduces almost all of the features/changes that affect the game as a whole for the expansion release, without the expansion actually being released. As announced previously with the expansion delay this patch will have a much longer lead time before the expansion releases. The new changes and features, we felt, were more than worth going ahead and releasing it around the same time we were going to anyway so that everyone could enjoy them sooner rather than later."
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...52857543&sid=1
The bank-issue is being hotfixed, rolling restarts for all realms.
Drysc again:
"We will be issuing rolling restarts for all realms on Wednesday, December 6 at 2:00 AM PST in order to apply a fix for an issue affecting bank bag slots. We estimate each realm to be down for approximately 15 minutes once restarted.
Please be aware that this fix will not replace items already affected by this issue. If you have already been affected please contact the Game Master department for assistance by opening an in-game ticket or e-mailing WoWGM@Blizzard.com"
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...53255347&sid=1
Drysc on clicks:
"I just got some information back and the tick sound is a known issue and is currently slated to be fixed in the next patch."
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=2 <- one month of CLICKCLICKARGH then?
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12/06/06, 3:24 AM
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#2
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Soda Popinski
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http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewt...p?id=8979&p=42
this is like, totally killing fire mages

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Originally Posted by arch
I don't know the serverstatus of the american servers atm, but there are various reports on the EU forums saying that ignite is completly broken again.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9...iremagexy1.jpg
It won't stack at all.
Apparently, this talent was once a 100% upfront one back in beta but was nerfed into the 4 second bullshit we have to this date because of combusted pyroblasts being tossed out of invis at players with an average of 2000 hp two years ago.
It also constantly breaks with every other patch and is now (imo) completly useless in PvP now that it can't roll anymore.
Is it just me thinking we should get a proper critbonus for once? I'm not entirely sure that even TBC health pools and resilience can handle all this damage fully upfront, but maybe if we got, say (warning: arbitrary numbersS) 10-20% more damage upfront and another 5-15% as a two-second dot?
Does anyone see the use of this talent remaining this way in TBC with resilience and high stamina pools coming up?
Keeping it as a DoT or making it upfront doesn't matter at all in PvE, it'd only be better to get it upfront. This is all a PvP question.
Personally I believe that keeping ignite like it is today will hit the fire tree hard pvp-wise a few months into TBC when people are starting to get decent resilience and stamina gear.
Convince me that "it's fine, l2p" !
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and to make things worse, the ignite is shared amongst mages.
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Log on with different model:
1- Create a character of the desired model. Log on/off.
2- At character selection screen, select your actual character; mouseover the new, desired model character, and hold down left click; hit enter and release left click at the same time.
bug Arcane Potency only applies to the first Arcane Missile bolt.
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12/06/06, 3:35 AM
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#3
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Kamelåså med syggelekokle
Drauk
Human Mage
No WoW Account
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Wait, wait. The EU servers isn't even up yet, there is like 4-5 more hours until maintenance ends.
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Fun is for casuals
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12/06/06, 3:38 AM
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#4
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Piston Honda
Abigor
Tauren Rogue
No WoW Account
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And? You're hoping we won't get the build they patched over there? :)
Edited my initial post for you.
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12/06/06, 3:42 AM
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#5
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Glass Joe
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A couple prot war things:
-Shield Slam multidirectional functionality nerfed or bugged. You can't shield slam now if mob is behind you (chasing you etc.) This was a great way to get a good threat lock on a boss if you were MT, moving the boss into place, chrommag, noth, fankriss, anub, etc etc .. I hope this is a bug not a nerf. Wonder if Bloodthirst still works while not facing mob?
-lost 5 defense with the patch. Check your defense, tanks. pre-patch I was 441 using lgg with 5/5 (old-10)anticipation (more of course when using ony trink instead of lgg) ; was 438 after sinking 3/5 in (new-12) anticipation.
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12/06/06, 3:42 AM
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#6
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Kamelåså med syggelekokle
Drauk
Human Mage
No WoW Account
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What i meant, is that quote in 2nd post implies that this report is from live EU servers, and this cannot be.
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Fun is for casuals
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12/06/06, 3:45 AM
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#7
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Casual
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Base UI seems to be really buggy to me.
Petbar doesn't show up after taming a new pet until you log out and then back in. (Dismiss/Resummon does nothing.)
Outlines for quickbuttons show up randomly and then won't go away unless you go into the interface settings and then back out.
Lots of other little annoying crap.
Looks like I may have to breakdown and get Perlbars or something if this is the level of quality Blizzard's default UI is going to be.
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12/06/06, 3:45 AM
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#8
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Piston Honda
Abigor
Tauren Rogue
No WoW Account
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*deleted - I'm dumb and can't read too well this early*
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12/06/06, 3:53 AM
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Medivh
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My imp doesn't seem to be gaining any spell damage from my gear. All Firebolt hits land in the base Firebolt range. I have no points in talents that would improve the imp in any way. My succubus' Lash of Pain is also behaving similarly, though her auto attack is gaining AP through my spell damage.
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12/06/06, 4:07 AM
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#10
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Don Flamenco
Undead Rogue
Lightninghoof
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The new built in Self Cast will heal yourself when a target is well within range...but only sometimes. Yet other times, you'll get Target out of Range Errors.
I'd suggest going back to a Self Cast Mod before playing again.
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12/06/06, 4:09 AM
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Such a Cassandra
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Originally Posted by Abi
* Alliance gets shaman-drops (Ten Storms etc), Horde gets paladin-drops (Lawbringer etc).
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Is that Alliance gets shaman drops instead of paladin drops, or in addition to?
I guess the faction-specific-item loot system is about to become a thing of the past, but if it's the latter I guess it would show that the loot tables always contain the full load but can be programmed to "re-roll" a loot slot if it lands on the wrong faction item. If the former, it would suggest that there is some sort of Horde/Alliance switch for generating loot tables when an instance is created and they just messed up and reversed the switch.
I guess if some paladins are quick enough, they can quickly get in for some nice non-set mail pieces. Pity that we shaman can't equip the nice paladin healing loot that occupies the same slots as all our duplicate DPS belts, leggings and gloves.
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12/06/06, 4:12 AM
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#12
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Banned
Murloc Paladin
Grim Batol(EU)
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Originally Posted by Drysc
The notes that were included in the patch include some changes that were not intended for this patch version. Please check the website for the most current patch notes.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/
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Druids didnt get all their toys and there is much bawling and gnashing of teeth.
Personal note:
I cant wait to see the backlash when all the nerfs on beta (but-not-on-live) come through on TBC release.
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12/06/06, 4:15 AM
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Piston Honda
Undead Warlock
Twisting Nether (EU)
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Originally Posted by Gumibear
My imp doesn't seem to be gaining any spell damage from my gear. All Firebolt hits land in the base Firebolt range. I have no points in talents that would improve the imp in any way. My succubus' Lash of Pain is also behaving similarly, though her auto attack is gaining AP through my spell damage.
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That's a known bug from PTR, your Imp will only scale if you put points into Unholy Power or some other Demonology talent but I think it was UP...
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12/06/06, 4:22 AM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Jed
A couple prot war things:
-Shield Slam multidirectional functionality nerfed or bugged. You can't shield slam now if mob is behind you (chasing you etc.) This was a great way to get a good threat lock on a boss if you were MT, moving the boss into place, chrommag, noth, fankriss, anub, etc etc .. I hope this is a bug not a nerf. Wonder if Bloodthirst still works while not facing mob?
-lost 5 defense with the patch. Check your defense, tanks. pre-patch I was 441 using lgg with 5/5 (old-10)anticipation (more of course when using ony trink instead of lgg) ; was 438 after sinking 3/5 in (new-12) anticipation.
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Slightly offtopic, but try strafing with the mob insted, if you do it properly, you should be able to keep facing at the mob while running, resulting in the same speed, no dazes and the bonus of using all aggro skills + block, dodge and parry.
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12/06/06, 4:22 AM
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#15
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Piston Honda
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15s cd on viper sting.
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I'll be alright when we get to pass out time.
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12/06/06, 4:30 AM
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Ask about our dystopian future internship program
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Water Elemental still isn't spawning with the correct HP/MP totals. :toot:
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< Aislinana> Why would it be my job to sleep with vontre? Don't I have standards?
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12/06/06, 4:42 AM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Gronx
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Originally Posted by Jed
A couple prot war things:
-Shield Slam multidirectional functionality nerfed or bugged. You can't shield slam now if mob is behind you (chasing you etc.) This was a great way to get a good threat lock on a boss if you were MT, moving the boss into place, chrommag, noth, fankriss, anub, etc etc .. I hope this is a bug not a nerf. Wonder if Bloodthirst still works while not facing mob?
-lost 5 defense with the patch. Check your defense, tanks. pre-patch I was 441 using lgg with 5/5 (old-10)anticipation (more of course when using ony trink instead of lgg) ; was 438 after sinking 3/5 in (new-12) anticipation.
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Slightly offtopic, but try strafing with the mob insted, if you do it properly, you should be able to keep facing at the mob while running, resulting in the same speed, no dazes and the bonus of using all aggro skills + block, dodge and parry.
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and then lose the rage for the ss due to your block dodge and parry. Moving those listed bosses into place with over 440 def=you're not gonna get 1-shotted and you have several healers on you on the pull. Running at the boss, hitting bloodrage then sundering him, running thru and shieldslamming as the boss chases you and then often getting another ss in near the end of the run=better and more fun than the strafing game, with no real risk. It's not too fantastic either, irl you could have a shield on your arm, run past someone and whack 'em as you pass them or if they were behind you chasing you right on your tail, swing your arm out and smack 'em with that shield. Nothing too unrealistic about it. Why nerf it? I hope it's just a bug that gets fixed.
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12/06/06, 4:44 AM
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Piston Honda
Undead Warlock
Twisting Nether (EU)
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Originally Posted by Nurru
Water Elemental still isn't spawning with the correct HP/MP totals. :toot:
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Actually none of the pets spawn with full hp and mana if that's what you mean.
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12/06/06, 5:35 AM
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Piston Honda
Abigor
Tauren Rogue
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by RK
Is that Alliance gets shaman drops instead of paladin drops, or in addition to?
I guess the faction-specific-item loot system is about to become a thing of the past, but if it's the latter I guess it would show that the loot tables always contain the full load but can be programmed to "re-roll" a loot slot if it lands on the wrong faction item. If the former, it would suggest that there is some sort of Horde/Alliance switch for generating loot tables when an instance is created and they just messed up and reversed the switch.
I guess if some paladins are quick enough, they can quickly get in for some nice non-set mail pieces. Pity that we shaman can't equip the nice paladin healing loot that occupies the same slots as all our duplicate DPS belts, leggings and gloves.
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It seems to be in addition to, yes. Read the quote from Drysc under Edit, basically WoW 2.0 is TBC without access to the new continent or the new level cap. It seems woefully wasteful to get over a months worth of various completely useless loot assuming you'd raid as normal until the expansion. I honestly can't understand why they'd put this in now, hopefully they'll come to their senses and fix this. I'd croak if I saw double Ten Storms from Nef/Rag/Ony.
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12/06/06, 5:46 AM
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Banned
Murloc Paladin
Grim Batol(EU)
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Presumably, they made the change for TBC, and the MC/BWL/etc drops are simply a by-product of a flag change.
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12/06/06, 5:48 AM
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Piston Honda
Abigor
Tauren Rogue
No WoW Account
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They should have waited until TBC for that change. There is no reason for it to happen now, unless they need a months worth of live testing done.
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12/06/06, 5:50 AM
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Piston Honda
Orc Warlock
Jaedenar (EU)
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i can see the outrage when kel starts droping paladin rings for horde and shaman rings for alliance. i hope the gm`s will replace them or something.
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12/06/06, 6:02 AM
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Don Flamenco
Blood Elf Rogue
Blackrock
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Display bug or something, but when respeccing the warrior had my char display open, and with 4/5 points in toughness my armour was showing well over 10k (8/8 wrath) but when I put the final point in it went back to 9.8k.
This patch is all kinds of fucking fucked up.
Good thing is though, that the additional bank slot is opened up, at 25g (max for any bag slot is 25g) and the initial bank has 4 more slots in it too.
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12/06/06, 6:05 AM
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Bald Bull
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Hunter base crit rate still bugged at around minus 1.5% according to the other thread :(
Also 4 piece CS bonus seems to bug out in some BGs like it did on PTR (not a surprise I guess), disappearing and not coming back.
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12/06/06, 6:07 AM
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Piston Honda
Undead Mage
The Venture Co (EU)
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This has to be the worst patch yet. It's amazing how much i'm still not looking forward to it despite craving the honour system changes for my alt.
Can anyone comment further on the ignite changes? That screenshot is pretty screwed up, but it looks like its from beta and not live.
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http://ctprofiles.net/404078
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