Wodahs

Im trying to track this down, and have been running some utilities, like filemon, to see whats happening. In doing so, I noticed a wierd issue.

In the past, we had a wdb file, that contained a cache of items/mobs/etc. In 2.0 they moved it. It is supposed to be in the new Cache folder, but mine wasnt. I manually added a WDB, then an enUS folder into the cache folder (Cache\WDB\enUS) and my framerate went up, my network traffic went down, and I got a bunch of cache files put into that folder by the wow client.

Can anyone else try this and report back on lag/issues it resolves, or doesnt resolve.?

 

Gort

... That would explain so much.



I'll check when I get home. Any particular hoops once you create the folder? (I'm assuming mine's missing, given how unpleasant things were last night.)


Edit: Yup, it was gone, and yup, this worked great.

 

archaon

I've been running 500-2000ms ever since the patch was released, but I've talked to other people and most of them seem to be fine. My internet outside of WoW is running just fine, so I'll give this a go once I get home and hopefully it'll resolve this issue. I'm seeing the same things though, naked people/slowly loading gear.

 

estarriol

Three datapoints for you :

1. My Windows box at home has the Cache directory, but only a Survey.mpq file in it - no directory hierarchy at all.

2. A TBC Beta install on the same machine has Cache/WDB/enUS, populated with several cache-looking files in it : creaturecache.wdb, itemcache.wdb, itemtextcache.wdb, pagetextcache.wdb, wowcache.wdb, gameobjectcache.wdb, itemnamecache.wdb, npccache.wdb, questcache.wdb.

3. My MacBook has the Cache/WDB/enUS directory, populated with the same files as the TBC Beta above.

I only have physical access to the MacBook currently, so I can't test creating the directory on the Windows box and see if it suddenly gets populated while playing. But given that it exists on the Mac and on TBC Beta, it seems likely that it would start seeing use, if it existed.

Good catch.

[edit: updated with TBC Beta directory info]

 

Quasi

Hrm, yes I did notice that directory in my Beta client. I really do hope it is as simple as this.

 

• Maestroquark

Wodahs, major props. I went in game testing some other things, and someone mentioned their Alchemy tab never caching and it reminded me of this so we both tried it out. Sure enough, my FPS are up and his alchemy tab is caching.

What are you waiting for, a certain shade of green?

 

◊ Praetorian

Ha. Yes, I had noticed that my directory structure had a totally empty "Cache" folder now, but no WDB anymore (I noticed this since deleting my WDB is something I always do when DLing a major patch update, because I often get issues like naked players and invisible items if I don't). Good catch.

 

Wodahs

I only have minimal raid testing with this, but everything else is faster, so I am hoping raid performance is better.

Last night, having vid lag issues, I removed all mods, set graphics to low settings, and had 9 fps on patch, 1-2 at times during the fight. I am pretty desperately trying to find a fix here.

 

Tangles

Yeah, I have been wondering about the empty cache folder every since they said that the WDB folder was removed and everything should exist in the Cache folder but mine was empty.

Excellent find.

 

◊ Gwaihir

Another confirmation, as soon as I made the directory it got populated with the usual cache files that used to sit in our WDB folders. I was wondering what happened to the stuff too , since many people were complaining of the "all white character model" /??? items etc.

 

◊ Drauk

Thanks a lot, fixed my FPS issues. Spreading a word now :)

Fun is for casuals

 

Nad

Thanks a bunch! Helped me with my FPS issues a lot.

 

human fish

Someone posted this on our guild forum, don't know from where but it might elaborate on some things.

 

kharen

I assume that it would be Cache/WDB/enGB for euro english clients, frFR for french clients, deDE for german, etc?

edit: confirmed with a guildie in beta on enGB at least.

 

koaschten

i can confirm that creating /cache/wdb/enGB gets the folder populated with
for the EU-enGB client.
Will have to see if it fixes the fps issues i had in Naxxramas tonight

 

Ladnil

Thank you so much! Glad we have smart people around here to fix the mistakes blizzard makes :)

 

PanthroEldre

I created the missing directories and they are being populated with appropriate looking files. Things do seem smoother.

How the hell does something like this get past internal testers?

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#c...las&n=Amythryx

 

◊ Oggie

OT and all, but having a fair understanding of the processes involved, the only way to 100% guarentee that this never happens ever is to run the installer for every stable breed of the patch on clean installs, repeatedly. Even using extremely fast computers with great imaging software you're talking aobut a nontrivial amount of time for -every- build including ones with dealbreaking problems entirely unrelated. I'd say that odds are pretty good that there was a feature to do this very thing, fully functional in at least one push.

Not to mention the issues on patch day doubtless invovled slightly altering the installer in an extreme time crunch so some stuff gets overlooked.

I'm all for slagging blizz as much as the next guy, but this looks like a pretty easy one to miss as QA.

 

Shavnir

As another datapoint I haven't messed around with any files and I see the folder is already there on the OS X client, so this may be a bug related only to the Windows one.

 

Trouble

I and a number of people in my guild have done this. It does indeed populate with the cache files, but none of us have noticed any increase in performance as a result. We did a little raiding in Naxx tonight and the FPS was as painful as it was last night.

 

Ragnor

Awesome thanks, hopefully this does the trick. Trying it now.

Update: 10-20fps improvements for most of my guild mates. Nice spotting and as always EJ forums has the info.

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ninor

You only need to make the WDB folder actually, it will make the enGB/enFR/enWhatever by itself.

Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?

 

Logain

Hey guys after reading this thread i went to my WoW folder to see if the WDB fodler was there and the whole cache folder structure was there and also the .wdb cache files that were named above, BUT all of the fodlers were read-only, so I turned that off and logged back into to WoW and the 1-2 sec lag issue with trade skills was gone. So make sure your cache folders are not write-proteced, thats another f.ck up by Blizzard (pardon my language).

I hope this info helps you. Cheers!

 

Onox

When i made these folders the other day i got all the files mentioned above in them. But checking the folder today the files are gone again. Other people in my guild are also missing the files again, and are notcing that the lag is back. I had to download somthing when i loged in today, so it might have somthing to do with that. Anyone know anything about this?

 

Javi

It seems the WoW client sets the read-only attribute on the folders when starting up. I unset the attribute as I already had the folders in question, and found that after the cache files appeared as the should, the folders were again read-only. Exiting WoW does not reset the attributes, thus the folders stay read-only.

For the record, the cache files themselves are not read-only, meaning read-only folders dont really matter, as the WoW client just updates the already existing cache files. So if you have cache files already, there is no point in changing folder attributes