A good HoT timer?

tiberion02 · 12/07/06, 10:33 PM

Our guild is lucky enough to run with 4 tree of life druids after this patch. Four of us in the same party is pretty amazing HoTing (can keep up PW MT with Rejuv/regrowth) only

The question I have is, does anyone have a particulary good HoT timer. The number of ticks I've prolly wasted by casting to early is getting pretty hefty. Back before 2.0 I used Carnival for HoT timers, but it was kinda mediocre due to the fact that you couldnt see when you applied a HoT if the same type was already up.

Evert · 12/07/06, 10:41 PM

I was looking for one as well. I used to use countMoon but it hasn't been updated either.

• Tibor · 12/07/06, 10:47 PM

Have you tried Chronometer? It's a CandyBars timer for HoTs, DoTs, pretty much anything.

Beliandra · 12/07/06, 10:48 PM

I only heal on an alt priest, so I've never fully explored the possibilities, but I was using something called Chronometer that was recommended here, and it did the job for timing my Renews.

heel · 12/07/06, 11:06 PM

SpellWatch.

know1 · 12/08/06, 12:07 AM

Slightly OffTopic, but does anyone know of anything similar for Earthshield?

It's very annoying to not know when your Earthshield has run out due to either time or used up all the charges.
Easy enough to track on yourself but would be nice to have a bar for showing it for whoever you cast it on.
Also notification if yours gets overwritten by someone else's.

kais[bo] · 12/08/06, 7:35 AM

chronometer for hot timers. its also good for ES timers. although i am not sure if it realizes that it got overwritten. but if charges are up, timer should stop running. at least when my pwd shield is used up, it stops showing and dispelled hots/dots also clear so that should work.

http://www.wowace.com/files/Chronometer/

Saeros · 12/08/06, 7:46 AM

HotCandy is nice, matches bigwigs :)

Zoefjoef · 12/08/06, 8:27 AM

Isn't Nature EnemyCastBars a good timer? It shows a timer for a HOT on my target, but I haven't tested / seen it with multiple hots tho.

Rogar · 12/08/06, 8:36 AM

I've used TTSpellTimer for a while. It's annoying in that it doesn't reset a HoT timer if you refresh it on a target before it expires. Instead, it will create a new timer, so you can end up with multiple HoT timers for the same target when there's only one HoT on the target. However, it does refresh the timer if you re-Shackle a mob, it supports other priest over time spells (PW:S, SW:P, etc) and it's very compact -- all reasons why I've stuck with it for so long.

• Maels · 12/08/06, 8:39 AM

As a warlock I use DoTimer. I've never tried it with a druid, but it should function similarly. It tells you target name, time left on HoTs intelligently and is surprisingly customizable both visually and mechanically.

◊ Bekah · 12/08/06, 9:30 AM

Originally Posted by Maels

As a warlock I use DoTimer. I've never tried it with a druid, but it should function similarly. It tells you target name, time left on HoTs intelligently and is surprisingly customizable both visually and mechanically.

This is the one that my fellow shadow priests insisted I try out =) Testing on scarlets it seemed to be very reliable about dots (which is what I really needed).

Apate · 12/08/06, 1:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rogar

I've used TTSpellTimer for a while. It's annoying in that it doesn't reset a HoT timer if you refresh it on a target before it expires. Instead, it will create a new timer, so you can end up with multiple HoT timers for the same target when there's only one HoT on the target. However, it does refresh the timer if you re-Shackle a mob, it supports other priest over time spells (PW:S, SW:P, etc) and it's very compact -- all reasons why I've stuck with it for so long.

I use that on my warrior and my warlock. It's a great mod. Like you say, it has some drawbacks, but the author has been pretty responsive to suggestions/fixes, and once you get used to it, I'm not sure that they are even noticeable. IE, if something adds a new timer instead of refreshing, I know which timer to look at.

dema · 12/08/06, 2:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bogart

Have you tried Chronometer? It's a CandyBars timer for HoTs, DoTs, pretty much anything.

I've found Chronometer to be very reliable for renews and SWP.

javelin · 12/08/06, 3:06 PM

I tried downloading DoTimer at the reccomendation of my warlocks, but I can't seem to find a site that's hosting the 2.0 version of it that isn't constantly down(I DL'd the old one and it is incompatible). Anybody know of a good site where I won't have to wait until 2AM to get bandwidth to download it?

Dynatos · 12/08/06, 3:09 PM

Originally Posted by Zoefjoef

Isn't Nature EnemyCastBars a good timer? It shows a timer for a HOT on my target, but I haven't tested / seen it with multiple hots tho.

The problem with nECB is that is resets the HoT counter every time a HoT is cast.

As an example:
0 seconds: Druid #1 casts Rejuvenation on the target. The "Rejuvenation" timer in nECB now counts down from 12 seconds.
3 seconds: Druid #2 casts Rejuvenation on the target. The "Rejuvenation" timer in nECB now becomes "Rejuvenation (2)" (to indicate a HoT stack on the target) and the counter begins counting down from 12 seconds.
4 seconds: Druid #3 casts Rejuvenation on the target. The "Rejuvenation" timer in nECB now becomes "Rejuvenation (3)" (to indicate a HoT stack on the target) and the counter begins counting down from 12 seconds.

The italicized parts are the kicker. The timer actually resets for every identically named HoT cast on the target. So, there's no way of knowing (a) Which Rejuv/Regrowth you're Swiftmending; and (b) When your own HoT is the one that requires a refresh.

Jaithra · 12/08/06, 3:55 PM

Originally Posted by Dynatos

Originally Posted by Zoefjoef

Isn't Nature EnemyCastBars a good timer? It shows a timer for a HOT on my target, but I haven't tested / seen it with multiple hots tho.

The problem with nECB is that is resets the HoT counter every time a HoT is cast.

As an example:
0 seconds: Druid #1 casts Rejuvenation on the target. The "Rejuvenation" timer in nECB now counts down from 12 seconds.
3 seconds: Druid #2 casts Rejuvenation on the target. The "Rejuvenation" timer in nECB now becomes "Rejuvenation (2)" (to indicate a HoT stack on the target) and the counter begins counting down from 12 seconds.
4 seconds: Druid #3 casts Rejuvenation on the target. The "Rejuvenation" timer in nECB now becomes "Rejuvenation (3)" (to indicate a HoT stack on the target) and the counter begins counting down from 12 seconds.

The italicized parts are the kicker. The timer actually resets for every identically named HoT cast on the target. So, there's no way of knowing (a) Which Rejuv/Regrowth you're Swiftmending; and (b) When your own HoT is the one that requires a refresh.

And there's no option to change that? Now I'm confused because I use it as a DoT timer and I never have the equivalent problem when there's multiple Corruptions, etc. on my target - I only see mine. No idea if it treats DoTs and HoTs differently, though.

Itto · 12/08/06, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by Bekah

Originally Posted by Maels

As a warlock I use DoTimer. I've never tried it with a druid, but it should function similarly. It tells you target name, time left on HoTs intelligently and is surprisingly customizable both visually and mechanically.

This is the one that my fellow shadow priests insisted I try out =) Testing on scarlets it seemed to be very reliable about dots (which is what I really needed).

Also works fairly well for renews, although it tends to miss PW:S's.

Dynatos · 12/08/06, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jaithra

Originally Posted by Dynatos

Originally Posted by Zoefjoef

Isn't Nature EnemyCastBars a good timer? It shows a timer for a HOT on my target, but I haven't tested / seen it with multiple hots tho.

The problem with nECB is that is resets the HoT counter every time a HoT is cast.

As an example:
0 seconds: Druid #1 casts Rejuvenation on the target. The "Rejuvenation" timer in nECB now counts down from 12 seconds.
3 seconds: Druid #2 casts Rejuvenation on the target. The "Rejuvenation" timer in nECB now becomes "Rejuvenation (2)" (to indicate a HoT stack on the target) and the counter begins counting down from 12 seconds.
4 seconds: Druid #3 casts Rejuvenation on the target. The "Rejuvenation" timer in nECB now becomes "Rejuvenation (3)" (to indicate a HoT stack on the target) and the counter begins counting down from 12 seconds.

The italicized parts are the kicker. The timer actually resets for every identically named HoT cast on the target. So, there's no way of knowing (a) Which Rejuv/Regrowth you're Swiftmending; and (b) When your own HoT is the one that requires a refresh.

And there's no option to change that? Now I'm confused because I use it as a DoT timer and I never have the equivalent problem when there's multiple Corruptions, etc. on my target - I only see mine. No idea if it treats DoTs and HoTs differently, though.

If there is an option, I'd more than welcome the enlightenment - I haven't found it.

• GokieKS · 12/08/06, 4:47 PM

I've been using DoTimer for both my warlock and my druid, and I like it a lot. The new version is a pretty good cooldown timer too.

Rogar · 12/10/06, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by dema

Originally Posted by Bogart

Have you tried Chronometer? It's a CandyBars timer for HoTs, DoTs, pretty much anything.

I've found Chronometer to be very reliable for renews and SWP.

I tried out the other timer mods suggested in this thread, and Chronometer definitely wins out for a priest - Inspiration, Shackle, PW:S, SW:P, Renew and Greater Heal Renew are all supported. Thanks for suggesting something that finally allowed me to ditch TTSpellTimer.

diospadre · 12/10/06, 12:06 PM

I like chronometer but I'd like to seperate the buffs I've cast on myself and the debuffs I've cast on my target in two seperate places. I tried DoTtimer but it doesn't handle Demo or Thudnerclap very well (they only show up when you have no target). Is there anything else that can give me debuff bars similar to these two mods?

I suppose I can run two seperate instances of Chronometer (one for buffs, one for debuffs), but I have a feeling that it would be a pain to get that going.

edit: Perhaps not.

Malan · 12/10/06, 12:31 PM

How in the world did this become it's own thread? There's a WoW 2.0 UI thread that's been on the front page for the last 4 days.