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Old 12/14/06, 2:23 PM   #1
Teejmanglot
Glass Joe
 
Murloc Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
Shaman resto T5 totals with good gems in sockets compaired to T3:
T5 -->> T3
3453 AC --->>2261 AC (+1192)
100 Stam -->>125 Stam (-25 Stam)
162 Int -->>139 Int (+23 Int)
406 Healing -->>263 Healing (+143 Healing)
50 MP5 -->>41 MP5 (+9 MP5)

Meta Gem: Chance to restore mana on spell cast -->> Nothing
Set(2): -3% Lesser Healing Wave cost -->> -12% Totems cost
Set(4): -.25sec off Healing Wave -->> +25% Mana Spring

If you combine the stat difference in a full budget item (Helm. BP, Legs) then its a 103 ilvl item. If you divide that by the 5 items its 20~ ilvls. That seems perfect. If Tier 0 is lvl56, T1 is 66, T2 is 76, T2.5 is 78-80, T3 is 86-92, T4 should be 100ish and T5 looks to be ilvl 110 Epics.

Yes I took the new stam weight into effect.

However, the items without sockets are not that high. The legs for example are lvl102. But the chest is lvl129!!!! I can only assume that since the set itself seems to balance out to 20 levels above T3 (which is what it should be) but the pieces by themselves do not, that maybe they are setting the set lvl upgrade across all the items as a set and not for each item....does that make sense?

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Old 12/14/06, 2:31 PM   #2
Apparation
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Elune
The stamina and stat values on all T5 haven't been updated to the new formula yet. Chill out. Expect +50% sta and like +10% other stats to it.


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Old 12/14/06, 2:33 PM   #3
probiscus
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IBTH?

OP: What is the point of your post?

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Old 12/14/06, 2:38 PM   #4
Cerathi
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Silver Hand
Originally Posted by probiscus
IBTH?

OP: What is the point of your post?
Please don't do this. This isn't the greatest thread in the world but "IBTH" posts do not have content either. If a thread sucks or a post is worthless, click the report button. Don't shit up the thread further.
Reporting and moving on really isn't that hard.

I got what you need.

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Old 12/14/06, 3:16 PM   #5
Uziel
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Burning Blade
I did something similar for warrior tanking gear. And Apparation has to be right. Tier 4 has more stamina than tier 5.

This is what I came up with though.

Dreadnaught set (not including bracers, belt, boots)
armor: 4025
str: 92
sta: 182
def: 59 (88.5 defense rating at level 60)
block value: 74
dodge: 3 (36 dodge value at 60)
block: 3 (15 shield block rating at 60)
hit: 3 (30 hit rating at 60)

Warbringer Tank Set (no bracers, belt, boots)
armor: 4335
str: 73
agi: 77
sta: 206
def rating: 102 (42.5 defense at level 70)
parry: 26 (.82% parry)
block: 35 (4.4% chance to block at level 70)
block value: 69
dodge: 54 (2.85% dodge at level 70)

Destroyer Tank set (no bracers, belt, boots)
armor: 6136
str: 82
agi: 96
sta: 184
def rating: 120 (50 defense at level 70)
block rating: 44 (5.57% block at 70)
block value: 95
dodge rating: 42 (2.2% dodge at 70)
hit rating: 16 (.9% hit at 70)

Socket info:
Warbringer Helm: 1 Meta socket, 1 Yellow Socket, Bonus +4 Block Rating
Warbringer Chest: 2 Yellow Sockets, 1 Red Socket, Bonus +4 Agility
Warbringer Shoulders: 1 Red Socket, 1 Yellow Socket, Bonus +3 Defense Rating
Total: 1 Meta Socket, 4 Yellow Sockets, 2 Red Sockets

Destroyer Helm: 1 Meta Socket, 1 Red Socket, Bonus +4 Dodge Rating
Destroyer Chest: 1 Blue Socket, 1 Yellow Socket, 1 Red Socket, Bonus +6 Stam
Destroyer Shoulders: 1 Red Socket, 1 Blue Socket, Bonus +3 block rating
Total: 1 Meta Socket, 2 Red Socket, 2 Blue Socket, 1 Yellow Socket

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Old 12/14/06, 3:32 PM   #6
Omelet
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Human Paladin
 
Aggramar
You may want to edit the title on the post...

I'm not sure if you are saying that the item level for T3 is *greater* than T5 or if you are talking about the item level difference *between* T3 and T5.

When you are trying to make a statistical / mathmatical point it's also best to refer to what formulas you are using and how you obtained your numbers.

Right now the issue of Tier 4 & 5 both having sockets is throwing a bit of a wrench into the ilvl calculations. I don't believe anyone has been able to reverse engineer the numbers of the cost of a socket.

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Old 12/14/06, 3:44 PM   #7
♦ Praetorian
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Orc Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
This thread isn't as useless as some have suggested, but all I really get out of it is that the current T5 set stats aren't finalized and don't reflect the proper weighting of stamina at the very least. No point in discussing something that appears nonfinal. When they're finalized, then there'll be room for more analysis.

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