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Old 12/16/06, 2:59 AM   #51
Cire
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Prob invited based on the name. Is it a cool name? Yes = invite :p

Our guild did get the invite and it seems that there are some issues with patching and naming etc... I think I'll wait a couple days for more people to hop on , then give the system a try. I also don't fully understand why the timing is such a big deal. I would imagine that if Blizzard wants end game content tested, they will provide the means for it to be done. Sortof like what they did with Naxx..

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Old 12/16/06, 3:10 AM   #52
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The guild invites should have been done months ago. Arn't guild invites given out to -mainly- test out raid content? Arn't some of the qualifiers to be at a approximate point in progression? By giving out the invites so late, those guilds would only have around a month to level up and test content assuming the current release date. The number of guilds that are going to make an effort testing raid content is going to vastly inferior that what it would have been had those invites been given earlier.

They should have been given out sooner than they were, but at the same time I could understand justifications for not doing it. Queue times, mob limitations, and the like. Do I think they should have been sent out sooner? Yes. Am I upset about it? Not really.

If I did get a beta invite, I seriously doubt I would level past 62. Dinking around on a BE paladin and exploring Outlands seems much more fun.

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Old 12/16/06, 3:17 AM   #53
Kody
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The guild invites didn't go out before now because they're intended for testing the raid content. There was no raid content to test until Tuesday(other than Karazhan, which is pseudo-raid as it's 10 person rather than 25).

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Old 12/16/06, 3:41 AM   #54
dalien
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Originally Posted by mutagen
Have fun installing!

The beta installer currently wants to upgrade to TBC Beta from 1.12.1, not 2.0. If you have an old version of 1.12.1 laying around (I was lucky and hadn't upgraded the laptop yet) you can monkey with the Data folders and get it installed. If not, you get to reinstall WoW or maybe install the demo. Details in assorted beta support forum threads.
Basically yeah, the TBC installer doesn't get along well with the live 2.0 client at all, due to many of the old MPQ files being consolidated into one big common.MPQ file in 1.12->2.0. If you install a fresh copy of WoW to a new folder (off the retail CDs, or I've heard the trial download version works) and don't patch it, then point the TBC installer to the same folder, it works just fine.. no need to patch up to 1.12.

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Old 12/16/06, 4:45 AM   #55
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Im gonna try and send a friend the patches and see if they work, if it does (which logically it should) ill just give out the site that has them. (sigh uploading)


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Old 12/16/06, 5:12 AM   #56
Muraevin
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For error #134

1 )rename your wow folder
2 ) install fresh wow
3 ) Run freshly installed not patched wow and quit it (this part makes bc installer pointed to fresh copy)
4 ) install BC beta

now you can move your wow 2.0 back to its original place and use it for playing on live

http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thre...sid=2&pageNo=2


trying it now, ill update if it works

edit : it worked

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Old 12/16/06, 7:29 AM   #57
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Originally Posted by Warstehgnome
Guild Beta invites to the major guilds should be foremost as they are more than likely the most stringent and thorough testers they are going to find.
Yeah, because testing and balancing the leveling game and leveling instances based on the hardcore players would be a great way to go! There was a good reason they had a random assortment of players since they were looking to see how those players would level up where more quests need to be added where XP needs to be reduced, etc.

Example you could just barely level to 70 on doing quests alone and if you were leveling duoing then you would have to grind a fair bit. Result of this was in the last push Blizzard decided to reduce XP for leveling slightly at trouble spots.

I need to do something useless.

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Old 12/16/06, 10:43 AM   #58
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Originally Posted by Warstehgnome
Well Gurg the reason I stated is "They should of done this months ago," is because as a player with a Sociology Bachelorette and a writer for the Azeroth Advisor(phase 1 of posting, establish credibility), I believe that it would have been a better way of testing than taking thousands of 'random' players with no personal connections and relying on them to get the job done. Their whole implementation of players into TBC:BETA was wrong. Guild Beta invites to the major guilds should be foremost as they are more than likely the most stringent and thorough testers they are going to find. Then when they feel things are somewhat stable, throw out the invites to the masses.

I could care less whether they give me and my guild(either Defiance or Sacred Samophlange) invites as it is a few weeks from release and my gnome still needs some Exodar rep for my epic Elephant. Socially, they forced the players whom weren't associated with other BETA players form connections out of the blue for the necessity of doing something and getting their privilege of testing the game before it comes out. Guilds being assimilated into this beta before the 'randoms' would have sped up not only the testing, but the actual community coverage and publicity of the large guild websites like FOH/NIHILUM/DnT/EJ, etc.

The one thing Blizzard should take from this one mistake is that they should rely more heavily on the core part of their hardcore community(not to bring up the old argument), and acquiesce to us first in order to get more done.
Somehow I think Blizzard has gotten a better feeling for their testing goals than player #8456732425 who is bitter about his friends not getting into beta.

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Old 12/16/06, 1:01 PM   #59
Quixotic
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My guild just recieved their invites as well, however has anyone who recently copied over recieved this issue?

http://ctscreens.net/2091

Hopefully someone smarter than me on these forums can provide a workaround, seeing as how blizzard refuses to comment on the many threads on the official wow forums about a ETA on fix or a workaround.

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Old 12/16/06, 1:15 PM   #60
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Yuck. I'm still waiting for my characters to transfer, after spending 8 hours downloading/installing fresh WoW/endless patches... getting the rename "Okay" bug will surely cap off a wonderful experience.

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Old 12/16/06, 1:17 PM   #61
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Looks like they also set off a fresh wave of random invites, as I got one today and wasn't one of my guild's 25.

Melador> Incidentally, these last few pages are why people hate lawyers.
Viator> I really don't want to go all Kalman here.
Bury> Just imagine what the world would be like if you used your powers for good.

Clearly law school has done wonders for me.

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Old 12/16/06, 1:30 PM   #62
pf
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Garona
I got a beta invite last night. I was not involved in any guild invites either.

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Old 12/16/06, 1:32 PM   #63
Rogar
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Anyone care to provide direct download links for the client? Blizzard's torrent is horrible -- it chews up all available bandwidth causing 8-10sec casting lag while playing on the live client, yet the download rate is atrocious.

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Old 12/16/06, 1:36 PM   #64
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Hey I'm not bitter at all, I have plenty of stuff to do in live still! And yes it is better to have the kaleidescope spectrum of players instead of one 'hardcore' group though I believe more thorough testing would have been completed if the players whom as a group, play more were in first.

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Old 12/16/06, 1:42 PM   #65
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Originally Posted by Rogar
Anyone care to provide direct download links for the client? Blizzard's torrent is horrible -- it chews up all available bandwidth causing 8-10sec casting lag while playing on the live client, yet the download rate is atrocious.
Rogar, look for a utility called WowTorrentEx; it'll extract a standard .torrent file from the Blizzard installer executable, which you can use with any torrent client you care for.

Melador> Incidentally, these last few pages are why people hate lawyers.
Viator> I really don't want to go all Kalman here.
Bury> Just imagine what the world would be like if you used your powers for good.

Clearly law school has done wonders for me.

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Old 12/16/06, 1:43 PM   #66
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Originally Posted by Warstehgnome
Hey I'm not bitter at all, I have plenty of stuff to do in live still! And yes it is better to have the kaleidescope spectrum of players instead of one 'hardcore' group though I believe more thorough testing would have been completed if the players whom as a group, play more were in first.
You mean like the people who did the leveling contest on the PTR?

Trust me, the first wave of people in the beta were very, very hardcore players, even if they weren't full guilds of them. I'd almost suspect that Blizzard used /played as a criterion in meting out some of the non-contest invites.

Tons of people in beta were at the level cap at all times as they raised it. Some insane people even leveled paladins from 1 to the TBC endgame. They didn't give beta invites to a bunch of two-hours-a-week supercasual players. They needed to test the LFG system and to make sure that all the instances were completely PUGable, and not by guild groups in raiding epics.

I don't really know anyone in beta who doesn't think that it's been a very effective testing cycle so far. The servers have been active throughout and a lot of work is being done.

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Old 12/16/06, 1:47 PM   #67
Kody
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
Originally Posted by Warstehgnome
Hey I'm not bitter at all, I have plenty of stuff to do in live still! And yes it is better to have the kaleidescope spectrum of players instead of one 'hardcore' group though I believe more thorough testing would have been completed if the players whom as a group, play more were in first.
You mean like the people who did the leveling contest on the PTR?

Trust me, the first wave of people in the beta were very, very hardcore players, even if they weren't full guilds of them. I'd almost suspect that Blizzard used /played as a criterion in meting out some of the non-contest invites.

Tons of people in beta were at the level cap at all times as they raised it. Some insane people even leveled paladins from 1 to the TBC endgame. They didn't give beta invites to a bunch of two-hours-a-week supercasual players. They needed to test the LFG system and to make sure that all the instances were completely PUGable, and not by guild groups in raiding epics.

I don't really know anyone in beta who doesn't think that it's been a very effective testing cycle so far. The servers have been active throughout and a lot of work is being done.
Lots of level 70 draenei shaman as well. And I agree, the beta invites were done properly(though I DO wish raid content was in earlier than this for guild invites to go out, but so is life).

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Old 12/16/06, 1:52 PM   #68
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Originally Posted by Rogar
Anyone care to provide direct download links for the client? Blizzard's torrent is horrible -- it chews up all available bandwidth causing 8-10sec casting lag while playing on the live client, yet the download rate is atrocious.
I don't know of anywhere with a direct download link, but there is a program that will extract the torrent from the blizzard downloader at http://capnbry.net/wow/downloads/WoWTorrentEx-3.zip

This way you can limit your speed both ways,

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Old 12/16/06, 1:58 PM   #69
Sicks
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I still got squat. T.T

I believe this latest wave of invites is due to a lot less people playing Beta now that the 2.0 patch has come out.

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Old 12/16/06, 2:00 PM   #70
archaon
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Windrunner
My characters got copied sometime last night, but when I select them it gives me a blank error. I had read somewhere that all characters had to have their name changed before playing, but I'm not given the option to do so. Anyone else having this issue or know of a solution?

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Old 12/16/06, 2:03 PM   #71
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This thread on the beta forums has some mirrors. The client one was fairly fast to the US (~900KB/s), but abysmally slow to Australia (~10KB/s).

http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thre...=1030216&sid=1

Originally Posted by #elitistjerks
(Blackpatch) interesting
(Blackpatch) the theoretical weekly profit of hypersynaptic fibers in ISK is only 0.004% off of the speed of light in meters per second

(@ZYla) dammit steam
(@ZYla) i already own all these gays

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Old 12/16/06, 2:37 PM   #72
Rogar
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Originally Posted by LL
This thread on the beta forums has some mirrors. The client one was fairly fast to the US (~900KB/s), but abysmally slow to Australia (~10KB/s).

http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thre...=1030216&sid=1
I tried those before I posted. Those links are either dead or timeout early in the download.

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Old 12/16/06, 3:18 PM   #73
TL-Seria
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We got 40 invites 2 months ago and hardly anyone bothered with it. There is nobody online of my guild on the beta server right now.
Guild invites appear to be a complete waste, they might as well FFA invite people to the next expansion.

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Old 12/16/06, 3:20 PM   #74
• Zoid
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
Some insane people even leveled paladins from 1 to the TBC endgame.
Those people are just crazy!

(67, I'll be 70 during the holiday break).

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Old 12/16/06, 3:22 PM   #75
Sicks
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Originally Posted by TL-Seria
We got 40 invites 2 months ago and hardly anyone bothered with it. There is nobody online of my guild on the beta server right now.
Guild invites appear to be a complete waste, they might as well FFA invite people to the next expansion.
Got any extra? :D

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