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Old 12/28/06, 7:34 AM   #1
Lace
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This information could help Pf, Kalman and anybody else working on spreadsheets and DPS Calculators for their class.

Could we collect the base stats of classes and their race for future DPS modeling etc? I'm particularly interested in rogues, but it might serve to help all classes.

I'd be happy to keep this post updated for the ~50 combinations that exist; all it requires is some beta testers getting naked at 70 and a post ; )

I'm particularly interested to see if there's a large stamina gain for some classes apart from the gear, just in the move from 60 -> 70 based on the direction Blizzard is taking with higher stamina values.

Edit:

Level 70 Numbers are stated with the Level 60 Numbers in brackets to the right.


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Old 12/28/06, 8:47 AM   #2
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To make the comparison I suppose you also need all combinations of level 60 stats, in which case:

Level 60 Tauren druid

Strength: 72
Agility: 56
Stamina: 74
Intellect: 117
Spirit : 115

EDIT:

Health: 2145
Mana: 2719

I also just remembered, I have Survival of the Fittest and Heart of the Wild, so my numbers are slightly off from the real base.

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Old 12/28/06, 8:52 AM   #3
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Don't forget to include base HP and Mana, since they are not derived from base stam and int.

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Old 12/28/06, 9:13 AM   #4
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Stuff I found my searching around on the beta forums:

Level 70 Human Paladin, no talents, nekkid:

Str: 126
Agi: 77
Sta: 120
Int: 83
Spi: 97
Armor: 154
Health: 4397
Mana: 3918
Spell Crit: 4.37%

Source: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thre...=1861149&sid=1
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Level 70 Troll Warrior, naked
HP: 5604
AC: 196
Stamina: 134
Agility: 98
Strength: 146

Source: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thre...202644&sid=1#1

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I'll post my level 70 stats (Human Warrior) once I get back to a computer capable of WoW :P

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On a more algorithmic note, is there anyway to derive the stats at level 70? I'd imagine 1-60 has one gain rate and 60-70 has another, so once you learn the gain rate for each class, then the only difference between the races would be the few differences in starting stats (pre-any racials like Tauren, Human or Gnome). I remember thottbot, long ago, listed how much stat was gained per level, but I can't find the link anywhere now :-/

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Old 12/28/06, 11:53 AM   #5
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Lvl 60 Male Undead Priest
STR - 34
AGI - 38
STA - 51
INT - 118
SPI - 130
ARMOR - 76

HP - 1727
MANA - 2866

3.02% crit chance
112 mp5


Lvl 70 Male Undead Priest
STR - 38
AGI - 43
STA - 59
INT - 143
SPI - 156
ARMOR - 86

HP - 3801
MANA - 4485

3.03% crit chance
128 mp5

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Old 12/28/06, 1:13 PM   #6
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Lvl 60 Human Mage

Str - 30
Agi - 35
Stamina - 45
Int - 125
Spirit - 132
Armor - 70

Hp - 1650
Mana - 2808
Crit - 2.69%

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Women's breasts can be modeled as a cone and measured as V = (Db^2*h*.785)/3 and since breasts can be thought of as an amorphous fluid, you just have to worry about containing the volume of the breast.

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Old 12/28/06, 3:21 PM   #7
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I was looking for this info myself the other day... hopefully someone will take this info and build a WoWWiki page for it (if there isn't one already and I just couldn't find it).

Level 60 Human Priest
Str 35
Agi 40
Sta 50
Int 120
Spr 137
Armor 80
Crit Chance 3.05%
Mana Regen 116

Naked HP: 1717
Naked Mana: 2896
Base Mana: 1376

Level 70 Human Priest
Str 39
Agi 45
Sta 58
Int 145
Spr 166
Armor 90
Crit Chance 3.05%
Mana Regen 135

Naked HP: 3791
Naked Mana: 4515
Base Mana: 2620

I just included the mana regen stat as it was conveniently on the character sheet.

Edit: oops forgot hp/mana values
Edit 2: figured it might be useful if we just went ahead and included "base" mana value in addition to naked mana since we have spells that use that value (subtract the mana given by Int from your naked mana).
Edit 3: Oops, thank you Lace (edited Sta at 70)

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Old 12/29/06, 4:28 AM   #8
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Khalikryst,

I'll assume you meant 58 Stamina for the Level 70 priest rather than 48. Updated with a spreadsheet now, just need more numbers.

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Old 12/29/06, 4:39 AM   #9
Vema
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Level 60 Night Elf Priest
HP:1707
MP:2896
Str:32
Agi:45
Stam:49
Int:120
Spirit:125
Chance to crit with spells: 3.05%

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Old 12/29/06, 6:57 AM   #10
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Level 60 Human Warlock:
1974 hp
2743 mana
45 str
50 agi
74 sta
110 int
120 spirit

This is with a Demonic Embrace spec, which gives med 15% more stamina at the cost of 5% more spirit. Looking at those stats that looks a bit wierd though. I'll try to find a human friend without that talent and check. (Adding an item with sta/spirit gives the expected values ofc)

Level 60 Night Elf Druid:
1993 hp
2621 mana
62 str
65 agi
69 sta
100 int
110 spirit

Level 60 Dwarf Priest:
1747 hp
2881 mana
37 str
36 agi
53 sta
119 int
130 spirit

Edit: Got some stats from a friends characters as well

Level 60 Gnome Mage:
1630 hp
2943 mana
25 str
38 agi
44 sta
134 int
120 spirit

Level 60 Dwarf Hunter:
2328 hp
2400 mana
57 str
121 agi
93 sta
64 int
69 spirit

That's with Endurance Training though, so hp is likely 5% too high. Accounting for that gives base hp of 2217 assuming Blizzard rounds normally, which might be stretching it :-).

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Old 12/29/06, 7:57 AM   #11
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Level 70 Human Warrior (Naked, No Talents)
HP: 5594
STR: 145
AGI: 96
STA: 133
INT: 33
SPI: 56
Armor: 192
AP: 480
Crit Chance: 4.35%
Defense: 350
Dodge: 3.95%
Parry: 5.00%
Block: 5.00%

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Level 70 Human Rogue (Naked, No Talents)
HP: 4414
STR: 95
AGI: 158
STA: 89
INT: 39
SPI: 63
Armor: 316
AP: 373
Crit Chance: 3.65%
Defense: 350
Dodge: 7.27%
Parry: 4.96%

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Old 12/29/06, 8:20 AM   #12
Lamaros
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Level 60 Orc Warlock. Naked. No Talents:

1904 Hp
2698 Mana
48 Str
47 Agi
67 Sta
107 Int
118 Spirit
94 Armor

Crit chance: 3.47%
Dodge change: 4.36%

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Old 12/29/06, 10:36 AM   #13
Quixotic
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Level 60 Undead Mage

Stamina: 46
Intelligence: 123
Spirit: 125
HP: 1650
MP: 2778

Level 70 Undead Mage

Stamina: 52
Intelligence: 149
Spirit: 150
HP: 3733
MP: 4196

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Old 12/29/06, 12:11 PM   #14
Khalikryst
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Oops edited my post for Lace's catch, thanks.

That chart looks great. I still think it would be pretty valuable to differentiate "naked" mana from "base" mana though (and maybe for health too although I'm not aware off hand of any abilities that work on base hitpoints).

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Old 12/29/06, 1:43 PM   #15
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How is the new stamina ? is 1 stam still 10 hp ? or do you got a higher "basis" hp ?

Warlock 60 Undead
str 44
agi 48
sta 75
int 108
spirit 114
armor 96

Crit : 3,48%
hp : 1984
mana : 2713

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