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This information could help Pf, Kalman and anybody else working on spreadsheets and DPS Calculators for their class.
Could we collect the base stats of classes and their race for future DPS modeling etc? I'm particularly interested in rogues, but it might serve to help all classes. I'd be happy to keep this post updated for the ~50 combinations that exist; all it requires is some beta testers getting naked at 70 and a post ; ) I'm particularly interested to see if there's a large stamina gain for some classes apart from the gear, just in the move from 60 -> 70 based on the direction Blizzard is taking with higher stamina values. Edit: Level 70 Numbers are stated with the Level 60 Numbers in brackets to the right. ![]() |
To make the comparison I suppose you also need all combinations of level 60 stats, in which case:
Level 60 Tauren druid Strength: 72 Agility: 56 Stamina: 74 Intellect: 117 Spirit : 115 EDIT: Health: 2145 Mana: 2719 I also just remembered, I have Survival of the Fittest and Heart of the Wild, so my numbers are slightly off from the real base. |
Don't forget to include base HP and Mana, since they are not derived from base stam and int.
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Stuff I found my searching around on the beta forums:
Level 70 Human Paladin, no talents, nekkid: Str: 126 Agi: 77 Sta: 120 Int: 83 Spi: 97 Armor: 154 Health: 4397 Mana: 3918 Spell Crit: 4.37% Source: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thre...=1861149&sid=1 -- Level 70 Troll Warrior, naked HP: 5604 AC: 196 Stamina: 134 Agility: 98 Strength: 146 Source: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thre...202644&sid=1#1 -- I'll post my level 70 stats (Human Warrior) once I get back to a computer capable of WoW :P -- On a more algorithmic note, is there anyway to derive the stats at level 70? I'd imagine 1-60 has one gain rate and 60-70 has another, so once you learn the gain rate for each class, then the only difference between the races would be the few differences in starting stats (pre-any racials like Tauren, Human or Gnome). I remember thottbot, long ago, listed how much stat was gained per level, but I can't find the link anywhere now :-/ |
Lvl 60 Male Undead Priest
STR - 34 AGI - 38 STA - 51 INT - 118 SPI - 130 ARMOR - 76 HP - 1727 MANA - 2866 3.02% crit chance 112 mp5 Lvl 70 Male Undead Priest STR - 38 AGI - 43 STA - 59 INT - 143 SPI - 156 ARMOR - 86 HP - 3801 MANA - 4485 3.03% crit chance 128 mp5 |
Lvl 60 Human Mage
Str - 30 Agi - 35 Stamina - 45 Int - 125 Spirit - 132 Armor - 70 Hp - 1650 Mana - 2808 Crit - 2.69% |
I was looking for this info myself the other day... hopefully someone will take this info and build a WoWWiki page for it (if there isn't one already and I just couldn't find it).
Level 60 Human Priest Str 35 Agi 40 Sta 50 Int 120 Spr 137 Armor 80 Crit Chance 3.05% Mana Regen 116 Naked HP: 1717 Naked Mana: 2896 Base Mana: 1376 Level 70 Human Priest Str 39 Agi 45 Sta 58 Int 145 Spr 166 Armor 90 Crit Chance 3.05% Mana Regen 135 Naked HP: 3791 Naked Mana: 4515 Base Mana: 2620 I just included the mana regen stat as it was conveniently on the character sheet. Edit: oops forgot hp/mana values Edit 2: figured it might be useful if we just went ahead and included "base" mana value in addition to naked mana since we have spells that use that value (subtract the mana given by Int from your naked mana). Edit 3: Oops, thank you Lace (edited Sta at 70) |
Khalikryst,
I'll assume you meant 58 Stamina for the Level 70 priest rather than 48. Updated with a spreadsheet now, just need more numbers. |
Level 60 Night Elf Priest
HP:1707 MP:2896 Str:32 Agi:45 Stam:49 Int:120 Spirit:125 Chance to crit with spells: 3.05% |
Level 60 Human Warlock:
1974 hp 2743 mana 45 str 50 agi 74 sta 110 int 120 spirit This is with a Demonic Embrace spec, which gives med 15% more stamina at the cost of 5% more spirit. Looking at those stats that looks a bit wierd though. I'll try to find a human friend without that talent and check. (Adding an item with sta/spirit gives the expected values ofc) Level 60 Night Elf Druid: 1993 hp 2621 mana 62 str 65 agi 69 sta 100 int 110 spirit Level 60 Dwarf Priest: 1747 hp 2881 mana 37 str 36 agi 53 sta 119 int 130 spirit Edit: Got some stats from a friends characters as well Level 60 Gnome Mage: 1630 hp 2943 mana 25 str 38 agi 44 sta 134 int 120 spirit Level 60 Dwarf Hunter: 2328 hp 2400 mana 57 str 121 agi 93 sta 64 int 69 spirit That's with Endurance Training though, so hp is likely 5% too high. Accounting for that gives base hp of 2217 assuming Blizzard rounds normally, which might be stretching it :-). |
Level 70 Human Warrior (Naked, No Talents)
HP: 5594 STR: 145 AGI: 96 STA: 133 INT: 33 SPI: 56 Armor: 192 AP: 480 Crit Chance: 4.35% Defense: 350 Dodge: 3.95% Parry: 5.00% Block: 5.00% -- Level 70 Human Rogue (Naked, No Talents) HP: 4414 STR: 95 AGI: 158 STA: 89 INT: 39 SPI: 63 Armor: 316 AP: 373 Crit Chance: 3.65% Defense: 350 Dodge: 7.27% Parry: 4.96% |
Level 60 Orc Warlock. Naked. No Talents:
1904 Hp 2698 Mana 48 Str 47 Agi 67 Sta 107 Int 118 Spirit 94 Armor Crit chance: 3.47% Dodge change: 4.36% |
Level 60 Undead Mage
Stamina: 46 Intelligence: 123 Spirit: 125 HP: 1650 MP: 2778 Level 70 Undead Mage Stamina: 52 Intelligence: 149 Spirit: 150 HP: 3733 MP: 4196 |
Oops edited my post for Lace's catch, thanks.
That chart looks great. I still think it would be pretty valuable to differentiate "naked" mana from "base" mana though (and maybe for health too although I'm not aware off hand of any abilities that work on base hitpoints). |
How is the new stamina ? is 1 stam still 10 hp ? or do you got a higher "basis" hp ?
Warlock 60 Undead str 44 agi 48 sta 75 int 108 spirit 114 armor 96 Crit : 3,48% hp : 1984 mana : 2713 |
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