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Old 01/08/07, 6:48 PM   #1
Copernicus
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My guild's website's contract with the host is up in a couple of weeks, and I want to move off of it. In general, the host (ipowerweb) has had annoying outages related to the php and forum software. It would also crash the website whenever someone tried uploading a video to the ftp server. I would have switched off of it a while ago, but as long as I was paying for the server space...

But now, I have the option to move off of them to another webhost. I want to host the standard WoW guild things (forums, PHP setup for a DKP page, front page news). I also want to host videos and images without worrying about being hit with bandwidth fees or having the forums portion of the website shut down. And, of course, cheap.

So, I'm looking for recommendations on web hosting- including horror stories about lousy hosts. I'm also interested in good website packages, especially ones that can integrate with phpbb (our forum software). The images section of our current website went underused because it was difficult to access it from the forums section. Having everything be near maintenance free is also a requirement. I can mess around with php or html code, but I lack the time to devote to it. I also need people with little html knowledge and no php knowledge to be able to enter in DKP and news into the site with ease.
 
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Old 01/08/07, 7:03 PM   #2
Vodrin
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dreamhost.com comes highly recommended. never heard any horror stories.

and they have some nice reward schemes making them extremely cheap for the first year.
using referral code 'VODRIN' can get $97 (full discount) off the bill.. theres plenty other codes for $97 too (i used 'james' for mine). but it comes to a year of hosting with domain/200gb diskspace/2000gb bandwidth for about 20$. all the bits you would need for hosting a guild website.
 
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Old 01/08/07, 7:14 PM   #3
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I've used http://www.bluehost.com for a while now for a few domains. their control panel is excellent, their ftp manager is great, you get a boatload of diskspace and bandwidth, and their tech support is top notch. I've used 6 or 7 different web hosts for myself and clients over the past few years, and bluehost has by far been my fav. (we use forum software and eqdkp on it, btw)
 
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Old 01/08/07, 7:15 PM   #4
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If you can get on uberguilds, I highly recommend it. The first time we ever hit 1k concurrent forum users, after visc, our site crashed within seconds. Now we had 1k+ concurrent users for over 24 hours after 5 manning loatheb and I didn't even notice a slowdown browsing the forums.

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Old 01/08/07, 7:15 PM   #5
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Yeah we use dreamhost as well, and generally they're pretty good. For in-guild forums they have enough CPU with their shared plans to not be too annoyingly slow, and their bandwidth and storage limits are pretty enormous, especially for the killer price. Their uptime leaves something to be desired, though, at least once a week our site will be down for 10 seconds to 10 minutes. It's down right now, in fact.

For the price, I'm not sure you're going to do any better, though.
 
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Old 01/08/07, 7:17 PM   #6
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DreamHost is about as good as you're going to get for a cheap webhost. The only problem you might run into is that they aren't very forgiving when it comes to high CPU usage, so if your forums gets a moderate amount of traffic, it might be best to look elsewhere.

Honestly, if you don't have time to devote to maintenance and your forums aren't too popular, DreamHost would be my only recommendation. Otherwise you're much better off going dedicated sooner rather than later. Dicking around with things like a VPS or a grid system are just not worth the hassle.
 
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Old 01/08/07, 7:27 PM   #7
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Dreamhost works pretty well considering its price, they offer everything you need to set up guild website and a lot more. Only issue I've had with them is that hosting server my sites are on was running dangerously low on disk space, which caused all kinds of havoc when uploading new content or installing new software using their default packages.

Though their referral system causes lots of spam every time someone asks for hosting solution as everyone tries to get potential sign ups to use their referrer code :)
 
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Old 01/08/07, 8:05 PM   #8
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What about Ventrilo?
 
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Old 01/08/07, 8:09 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Boethius
DreamHost is about as good as you're going to get for a cheap webhost. The only problem you might run into is that they aren't very forgiving when it comes to high CPU usage, so if your forums gets a moderate amount of traffic, it might be best to look elsewhere.

Honestly, if you don't have time to devote to maintenance and your forums aren't too popular, DreamHost would be my only recommendation. Otherwise you're much better off going dedicated sooner rather than later. Dicking around with things like a VPS or a grid system are just not worth the hassle.
Thanks. I'm not expecting to get much forum or website traffic, as it's mostly a private forum. It's just that the webhost we were using would crash about once a week during a run (because of people checking DKP/strategies) and updating DKP would always shut down everything else as it cycled through that. So DreamHost it is!

I would like to know more about various php plugins people are using on their sites, I guess. I especially want stuff that integrates with the forum software, because the majority of my guild will go there and ignore most of the other options.
 
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Old 01/08/07, 8:14 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Kaacee
What about Ventrilo?
EJ uses http://nrgservers.net/

Never had a problem for the past 2 years I've been renting it.

[10:41] <James> 90% of the EJ boards in 10 years will be dudes that bounce around from game to game looking for the NEXT BIG WOW but all of them will ultimately fail them at level 20
Not on IRC?
 
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Old 01/08/07, 8:18 PM   #11
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1. I would really take the time to transfer to PunBB if you move hosts because phpbb sucks nuts. It's an extra evening or two of work but worth it in the long run.

2. We use hostrocket and haven't had any trouble in 2 years.

Originally Posted by CheshireCat
Eh, my nostalgia goggles aren't as good as they used to be.
 
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Old 01/08/07, 9:20 PM   #12
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as a professional web designer i can say that nothing beats www.one.com

 
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Old 01/08/07, 9:29 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Double-Neg
Originally Posted by Kaacee
What about Ventrilo?
EJ uses http://nrgservers.net/

Never had a problem for the past 2 years I've been renting it.
We've been using an nrgServer for little over a year now, and never had any problems. The server's gone maybe 3 times so far, and never for more than an hour.

 
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Old 01/08/07, 9:34 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
1. I would really take the time to transfer to PunBB if you move hosts because phpbb sucks nuts. It's an extra evening or two of work but worth it in the long run.
Were you able to get the punbb Migration tool to work? Or did you just start with new forums?

Ignie Ferroque translates from latin to "with fire & with sword." It is a stock phrase used to describe the results of a destructive raid into an enemy's territory, whose sole purpose is to generate fear, terror, and destruction.
 
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Old 01/08/07, 10:00 PM   #15
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The migration tool worked without a hitch.

Originally Posted by CheshireCat
Eh, my nostalgia goggles aren't as good as they used to be.
 
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Old 01/08/07, 11:17 PM   #16
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While I was involved in running MTGOnline.org (a now-retired online Magic: the Gathering league) we used HostRocket for a time and it was an utterly terrible experience. Frequent outages and numerous problems related to crappy handling of the MySQL processes (which we ran a lot of to manage tournaments via our website.) I can't now remember who we switched to, though. <_<

'War' is too small a word for what I'm fighting. Like a candle in front of the whole burning Sun. I told you. This is bigger than a war. Now, I am not going to die today. I have other projects, and other options.

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Old 01/09/07, 12:15 AM   #17
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I use http://site5.com for hosting purposes, I used to have my own dedicated server, but that just became a hassle in the long run when I fell off the whole scene.

Could anyone suggest any good European Ventrilo servers? My current one is expensive as hell in comparison to what I have seen while browsing.
 
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Old 01/09/07, 1:01 AM   #18
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I have heard poor things about Dreamhost's uptime and how high the load gets on their servers. This, combined with the most recent newsletter they sent out (which absolutely reeked of pompous arrogance and just being a shithead in general) has convinced me to stay with Apis Networks. They're a bit expensive, but I've never had access problems and their helpstaff has been wonderful with me.

That said, if you're looking for a cheap and serviceable alternative I think that Dreamhost will probably be your best bet. I would sign up early, though, as the newsletter I read had some dumb stuff in it where they're going to start cutting down the amount of space/bandwidth on their plans in the future. If that's what you want, get in while the getting's good. If you'd like, send me a PM and I will c/p the newsletter to you.
 
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